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150mg 6 APB, 50mg 5APB + 30mg 6APB. Experienced. Wow (try preloading but go easy)!

Shifty38

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Hello,

First, the standard info: Male, 28, 62kg, getting more experienced. Have used MDMA, aMT, 5APB, 6APB. Timings were recorded by my girlfriend. We normally both try to record as we go. I failed in this regard – I was simply too high.

The report begins T – 48:

Had been eating healthy all week, nothing unusual there, but dropped in a couple of extras to see if it would help boost peak / reduce come up time / reduce come down. Staple foodstuffs included baked potatoes, chicken breast, vegetables, fruit (bananas were good). Also ate 100g of dark chocolate (85% solids) for three days in a row.

As for supplements:
T – 48: Multivitamin tablet x 1, 375mg of magnesium including vitamin B complex, 1 x 5HTP tablet.
T – 24: Multivitamin
T – 4: 2 x 5HTP tablets, 375mg of magnesium including B complex. Washed down with 500ml of grapefruit juice.
From T – 8 to T – 4: 100grams of dark chocolate.
Throughout T – 24: Frequent cups of green tea (double bagged for extra strength)
Did not eat anything substantive from T – 8 onwards.

T: Dropped 150mg of 6APB. This was a mix of 75mg dark tan and 75mg light powder.

T + 40: Watching a beautiful Ghibli film – Blu-ray. Visual perception enhanced significantly. Everything was significantly sharper and the colours were beautiful. It was like watching the world in blu-ray.

T + 50: First waves start to hit. Boy am I high!

General Note: As the average time to come up on 6 appears to be in excess of an hour and for some up to 3 hours, I felt my steps to reduce the come up time were successful. However, word of caution: too much dark chocolate can cause an upset stomach – enough said. Moreover, the come up itself, whilst being so rapid, was not smooth and I experienced significant nausea.

Gap from T + 55 to T + 180: Various things took place during this time. Music was so beautiful. Went for a walk to my university – a wonderful experience. Lights were gorgeous, everything was very cartoon like. Very lucid – in a good way. Talking was a pleasure. Feeling very insightful. Some serious OEVs and major distorting.

Enjoyed seeing a police car and police officer – they were on the other side of the road but I was so angry with them (conveyed this to my girlfriend via quiet conversation). The police officer was talking to an alcoholic / homeless lady that spends time on our street. He had his notebook out recording her details. Up to this point, I felt the police were out to protect me – in a general, life sense. This showed me what they really are – bullies. They are not out to protect us, the community, humans. Their purpose is to protect those in power. Such a revelation at the time. Feeling so angry but so positive about life – what a wonderful feeling. Police car speeds past with blue lights on. One of the lights is cracked – looks like the lights are spewing flame. Wow!

Walked past a girl who was wearing some lovely perfume – first time I’ve noticed how delightful smells can be whilst high.

Arrived at the university. Had been in to work there in the morning. Felt the whole place to be oppressive – getting a little fed up of study. However, on walking to the main quad I was overwhelmed with the majesty of the place. ‘A shining beacon of knowledge that will keep us all safe.’ I love learning, I love knowledge, I love teaching and helping. Feel so much better about my studies.

Up to this point, it had not occurred to me that my girlfriend was not as high as me. She always beats me up. Not today. I am clearly being a little too intense. We walk home. She has a joint and I smoke a cigarette. Both feeling excellent.

We have hours of music ready in various playlists but I decide to go rogue. We both listen almost exclusively to electronic music but tonight I’m going to get us in touch with a couple of old friends. We listen to Tool, old Incubus, Meshuggah, Hundred Reasons and various other bands from when we used to be into that music. So much feeling, so wonderful.

And did we talk! My girlfriend and I are close (obviously) but this was to a whole other level. We could talk about anything and we dealt with a couple of issues that were really sensitive. Everything is so positive.

T + 360: Both very, very high.

T + 375: My girlfriend redoses with 50mg of 5APB and 30mg of 6APB.

T + 395: I take the same dose later, attempted to account for my skyrocketing ability to come up.

T + 435: Both coming up again. The appearance of 5APB is welcome and strong. So clean, so much energy. Still very chatty. Music is still incredible.

T + 495: Both seriously high now. All we do is talk and listen to music. Never have two such simple things seemed so wonderful. We’re both making such progress in our lives and sometimes we forget to look round and see how far we have come. Both having wonderful insights into our academic work – not the usual bullshit – genuine insight, exploring ideas and paradigms which before, we could not understand to this level.

T + 675: Still very high, still going. Baseline appearing. Decide to go for another mission to uni. This time for a joint. I have two drags. Weed does not agree with me. I spend the next two hours feeling very poorly. Even feeling like this, everything is still wonderful! Then to bed.

Apologies for the clipped ending and the general clipped nature of the report but I was so, so high. Moreover, I spend my life recording things. I was so glad to be able to spend all my time in the moment, enjoying the experience.
Drank water and sports energy drinks throughout the experience. The later was very helpful as we were using a lot of energy even if we weren’t really doing very much. Temperature monitoring was important and we did get too hot and cold at various points.

Come down was basically non-existent. So very tired. I put this down to being very tired over the days prior to the trip whilst the pre-loading seemed to hone my body to a very efficient level. It was able to utilise energy very effectively – making the high so much greater – but leaving me very drained. As for the preload, pm me should you require more details. Many thanks to those on the forum who answered questions about pre-loading and who contributed to the excellent guide.

The combo of 5 and 6 was interesting. I felt 6 was too heavy to go to club but on reflection, I managed two fairly long missions out of the house and so I could have managed a night club. The empathy and euphoria of 6 is its strength. The energy, cleanness and lucidity of 5 are its strengths. When combining, I felt that 5 was a lot stronger than 6 – I could just feel the 5 overpowering the 6. I believe this is backed up by the chemistry (?).

So on my next club night out – in a few weeks – I’m going to try the following: 90 – 100mg of 6APB and 60 – 70mg of 5APB. I think that should lead to a rather good night.

A final word on 6 and its trippy properties. They are there. I had OEVs, CEVs, distortions, light enhancement, music enhancement and that delightful mental tripping where speaking becomes something beautiful and poetic – like the early stages of some mushrooms. However, on this experience, because I was so present, I didn’t let the tripping consume me. It could have done had a focussed on it. Weed had no effect on the tripping qualities. I have tried MXE with 6 before. That is one to watch – that led to some seriously trippy things happening. Will try MXE with this combo but well after the peak.
 
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thanks for the interesting report, especially the specifics on the differences between 5 and 6. Hopefully I will get to try this out in the proper setting, eventually.
 
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