Opioids 13-oh

[dopefisher]

So with 7-oh being banned literally everywhere in the USA, I recently heard about 13-oh. Does anyone know anything about it and willing to share any info?

 

[Electrum1]

Sounds like it'll also be banned soon due to the language in the Federal Synthetic Drug Control Act of 2011 (H.R. 1254) becoming law in the Synthetic Drug Abuse Prevention Act of 2012

Once 7-OH or mitragynine pseudoindoxyl are fully finalized as Schedule I substances, federal prosecutors will finally have the baseline they need to argue that 13-OH is a controlled substance analog

 

[dopefisher]

Appreciate the response.

 

[Electrum1]

I can't even find anything legit about it's potency compared to 7oh. Pretty much nothing about whether it's stronger or weaker, and nothing about toxicity and other important data. Found places that sell it tho

 

[puke]

When did it officially get banned? I haven't seen an update yet.

 

[vxc]

When did it officially get banned? I haven't seen an update yet.

The extended public comment period just ended on Sep 10th, it hasn't actually been banned yet. It's possible it'll go to a vote with congress atp but we'll see.

 

[Didgital]

When did it officially get banned? I haven't seen an update yet.

It's not banned yet which is crazy. Always check the DEA website lits of controlled substances

 

[chippermonk]

It's not banned yet which is crazy. Always check the DEA website lits of controlled substances

Yeah, it's odd all right. I read that the distinction between 7oh and MGM15, 16, and pseudoindoxyl are that the latter are synthetics not found in kratom, whereas 7oh can be considered a natural part of kratom, and they are not intending to ban kratom. They have to go through regulatory hoops to establish what concentration of 7oh can be in a product and be legal, and what amount would become illegal.
Whatever, it's crazy that the government moves so slow on something that seems kinda of easy to do. The local and stats governments are certainly banning 7oh quickly.

 

[DeathIndustrial88]

"Land of the free"....

Free to suffer in hell & pain.

 

[DeathIndustrial88]

"13-OH is a hydroxylated isoquinoline alkaloid derived from the rhizome of Corydalis yanhusuo. It is separated from the plant's better-known alkaloid tetrahydropalmatine (THP) by HPLC. It is not a kratom compound, not a mitragynine derivative, and not chemically related to 7-OH. The "-OH" in both names just indicates a hydroxyl group; the position numbers refer to completely different ring systems."

"In a 13-OH tablet like Tempo, the kratom component is a full-spectrum extract standardized for mitragynine. So a "13-OH tablet" is really a kratom extract tablet with corydalis; the 13-OH is the second ingredient, not a stand-in for 7-OH."

From this website -

https://feeldialed.com/blog/13-oh-tablets-vs-7-oh-tablets

Not sure if 13-OH has any opioid properties.
Not quite sure what adding an alkaloid from Corydalis yanhusuo does. It mentions having antinociceptive properties.. which could point to pain relief.
But Wikipedia makes it sound like it's used for gastric emptying & other things that most people who are looking for pain relief probably aren't interested in. So it sounds like "13-oh" is just 7-oh + Corydalis. But how the corydalis affects the experience, I'm not sure.

Corydaline - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I'm not sure 7-oh is fully banned federally yet, they're just requiring products to contain much lower doses for now. Or at least that's what I read. So 13-OH is still 7-oh, just with a lower dose + the corydalis extract.