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125mg 4-HO-MIPT, experienced

crOOk

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Ok, this comes from a friend of mine. He's too lazy to write a trip report, so I'm gonna tell you what happened. The 4-HO-MIPT has not decomposed, it is still very fresh, I have had good trips off less than 20mg after he had taken those 125mg.

This is what he took the days before the trip happened:
30mg zydis
200mg seroquel
150mg trazodone
15mg imovane
50mg ephedrine

He didnt't take any meds on the day he tripped though! The last antipsychotic was ingested at 6pm the day before. Well, he administered ~90mg orally at around noon (18 hours after the last antipsychotics intake) and ~30mg intranasally 90 minutes later. He described the effects as:
-lucid.. i was fully concious but felt a great appreciation for nature. i went for a walk and could smell flowers from far away
-everything looked bright and clean
-The burn was described as "nothing compared to taking a rail of crank", he "had worse"
-There were no gastrointestinal problems whatsoever
-Saliva was "a little pasty at the back of his toung" and there was "a weird taste in his mouth too [...] kinda like mushroom taste"
Prior to T-18:00 - last antipsychotic intake
T+00:00 - oral administration of ~90mg 4-HO-MIPT in a gelatine capsule
T+01:30 - intranasal administration of ~30mg 4-HO-MIPT
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I just thought some people might like to hear this, since I haven't heard of such a high single dose of Miprocin before.
Btw, this individual has quiet a high tollerance to psychedelics, even before he started being medicated. He has eaten about 500 hits of acid in his life and has handled half ounces of mushrooms pretty well before. His history of psychedelic use has caused him to receive the diagnosis "drug induced psychosis".

crOOk
 
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subdefy said:
why would you trip if you are predispositioned to psychosis.
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Why would you ask such a question if you know the answer already? ;)

Answer to both question would probably be "For the helluvit!"...

If you seriously want an answer to the question, I can still ask my psychotic friend.

crOOk
 
so the executive summary:

an individual medicated for a preexisting psychiatric condition with a fuckload of meds takes a heroic dose of 4-HO and feels...normal.

;-)

P.S. kids, dont repeat. this should remain a singular datapoint.
 
Pretty much, but I'd like to stress that ";-)" of yours, cause he didn't really feel normal and neither did he take his meds that day.

But still, not a bad summary. :D And yeah, I agree, kids don't repeat!

crOOk
 
I have a friend who tried 160mg in 3 piles set about 1.5 hours apart. He was somewhat off the rail, he had to have another person guiding him when he walked, as he could walk a step or two before he was uncertain on which way to go and would stop indefinitely on pondering directions. Otherwise he seemed fine, no ill effects. He liked it.
 
Hehe, great, this stuff is the shit. Just thinking about the way some phens make me feel in higher doses makes me sick. This seems to be the closest we will legally get to 4-HO-DMT... No more foul taste in our mouths, W00T! Let's stock up before this shit becomes illegal!

crOOk
 
subdefy said:
why would you trip if you are predispositioned to psychosis.
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lmao...same reason i like to trip...fyi, I was on Zyprexa and Lexapro, then Indarel and Tegratol, then Paxil, then Remeron and Depekote, now switching from Seroquel to Geodon just to give it a try :) ..Seroquel has worked the best for me so far....but fuck yes i still like to trip.
 
Yeah, lol. The answer should really be obvious. It's fun, no matter if you're psychotic or not. It's not like everyone has full control over their desires...
I would definitely have to agree if subdefy gave some advice like "That guy shouldn't do psychedelics!" or something.
I don't seem to have benefited much of my psychedelics use either, although it often seems like it the weeks after I have had a trip, especially in the beginning when I just started tripping. Actually, the opposite seems to be the case, the trips seem to have done some severe damage to my mind and soul. But who cares, it has always been fun and I don't regret a thing.

crOOk
 
Still can't get why everyone loves this one so much. Iprocine is my synthetic tryptamine of choice. Pure grace, almost along the lines of 5-MeO-DMT, but with its own feel.

Miprocine seemed like a psilocine copy cat at <20mg, and more than half of the reports I seem to read of >20mg trips mention a fair bit of difficulty. But high-dose mushroom trips also can often go that way.

Only real advantage of miprocine that I can see is not having to eat fungus...though fresh P. Cubensis doesn't taste too bad. I'll stick with mushrooms and save iprocin for those days when a nice alternative (different enough to be interesting) from mushrooms is desired. Plus the physical enhancement (aka sex) frim iprocine is unbeatable. It was my 'XTC."

As for miprocine, it was nice to try a few times but I doubt I will be tasting again anytime soon. The 4-acetate ester however sounds very yummy.
 
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MGS, can you elaborate on the differences between the acetoxy and hydroxy (MIPT), other than duration of trip and dosage.)
 
4-aco-MiPT felt more similar to mushrooms than anything else I could compare it too.... but really it felt like 75% mushrooms, 25% LSD. Or something along those lines.

Definitely the best new-wave "RC" I've tried for spiritual purposes. It can be very deep, euphoric, and beautiful like mushrooms, but it definitely has it's own character.

I have yet to try 4-ho-DiPT but it's on my short list :)

I also haven't tried 4-ho-MiPT, but I like the -aco version so much I doubt I will seek it out unless 4-ho-DiPT turns out to be one of the best things I ever put in my body.
 
morninggloryseed said:
Still can't get why everyone loves this one so much. Iprocine is my synthetic tryptamine of choice. Pure grace, almost along the lines of 5-MeO-DMT, but with its own feel.

Miprocine seemed like a psilocine copy cat at <20mg, and more than half of the reports I seem to read of >20mg trips mention a fair bit of difficulty. But high-dose mushroom trips also can often go that way.

Only real advantage of miprocine that I can see is not having to eat fungus...though fresh P. Cubensis doesn't taste too bad. I'll stick with mushrooms and save iprocin for those days when a nice alternative (different enough to be interesting) from mushrooms is desired. Plus the physical enhancement (aka sex) frim iprocine is unbeatable. It was my 'XTC."

As for miprocine, it was nice to try a few times but I doubt I will be tasting again anytime soon. The 4-acetate ester however sounds very yummy.
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I like this one because it actually puts me into a mindfuck and only RARELY causes me any anxiety... Every time I eat shrooms, I get some pretty severe anxiety and I've had a few panic attacks, even with doses that aren't low enough to make me truly trip.

My friends love it because we all have had some of our best trips on it and it combines really well with the comedown from MDMA. We tripped for about 8 hours total on just 10mg and all agreed that it was close to the most insane trip we've ever had and it was certainly the most fun. We got lost in thought loops, much like LSD, only we got lost in this loop together, not individually. We'd go in approximately 2-5 minutes cycles of one of us doing something silly and everyone else going insane laughing about it... We'd feel like an hour or more had passed and in reality, it was only about 5 minutes.

This is the most "organic" feeling research chemical I've ever put in my body. It doesn't have any real body load except maybe some diuretic action and it mixes well with many things, including pot, which I can't smoke when I am sober without having a panic attack.

It brings about some of the most beautiful OEVs I've ever had too. There's nothing quite like looking at a wall and seeing not only moving fractal patterns of insane color but also seeing the tracer of the wall stay in your field of vision for what seems like an eternity when you move your head away.

I like this one more than 4-AcO-MiPT because one, its lower dose, and two, 4-AcO-MiPT had a weird bodyload to it, like something wasn't quite right about what it was doing to my system.

**EDIT: As for Iprocin, its far too variable in effects for me, per dose, to be of any real use. Its totally unpredictable how much it will affect me. I've had 20mg doses be more intense than 30mg doses and I've had a 36mg dose that was weaker than 16, had hardy any effect on me whatsoever. Iprocetyl is slightly less variable but still too variable.

And I get the erotic effect intensely from Miprocin... Its like returning to a primal state where the only purpose of existence is to survive... and as such, sex becomes a thing I seek to survive and the "little man" can play along for hours and hours on end.

Iprocin is also way too short. Miprocin lasts on average 6-7 hours for me, with about 4-5 being peak. Iprocin, I get 3 hours if I'm lucky.

Higher doses of Miprocin have had effects left over at the 12 hour mark, with an 8 hour or so peak.

Miprocin also has an insane body high to it at lower doses and is also highly euphoric. Its just the perfect substance for me and many agree with me on this sentiment.
 
-Zydis and Seroquel for psychosis treatment and prevention of hallucinations (auditive and visual)
-Trazodone for serotonine and sleep
-Imovane for sleep
-Ephedrine for the energy boost, since all those meds tend to make you tired

crOOk
 
Crook -- thanks for sharing. However, its my personal opinion that your friend seems like the posterchild of who should not be tripping. Granted its still fun, but at some point you just need to take a step back and look at what you're doing to yourself. Also, if hes on meds to prevent hallucinations, maybe that could have interacted in such a way as to weaken the effects a bit? i mean, 125mg is indeed a hefty amount, and to wind up relatively mildly affected. Also, I know you said he didn't take his meds that day, and while I cant speak for those specific meds, it seems to me like one might want to wait a bit longer than 18 hours to fully remove those meds from his system. A friend of mine would ween himself off his meds over the course of a week and abstain for at least like 3 days prior to any sort of psychedelic acticity. Still, I wouldn't recommend it if, like your friend, you are prone to psychosis. To each his own however.
 
You're totally right man. I'm also one of the people who probably shouldn't be tripping. :/ Peace

crOOk
 
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