• 🇬🇧󠁿 🇸🇪 🇿🇦 🇮🇪 🇬🇭 🇩🇪 🇪🇺
    European & African
    Drug Discussion


    Welcome Guest!
    Posting Rules Bluelight Rules
  • EADD Moderators: Shambles

~10mg doses of 4-ACO-DMT / 4-HO-MET and Similar

AcidTrippin

Bluelighter
Joined
Aug 14, 2013
Messages
197
normally im always against low doses of the likes of acid but recently tried 4-ho-met at 10mg and found it a lovely dose, just a brilliant surge of energy, relaxed, confidence, open mind. Found programming fairly easy to do although it wasnt challenging as was interaction, felt like i could go about my normal day.

I'm trying to look for alternatives to ketamine and benzos that will be better for my brain. Could these be possibly alternative, anyone tried 4-aco-dmt to compare - i've only tried in 20-40mg doses.

Always think EADDs better.
 
I think 4-aco and mushrooms are two of the psychedelics I would take in small doses, just because if I am going to be dosing low, I won't want strong visuals, just enhanced headspace, pleasant body load that you get from mushrooms (I find it very MDMA-esque) so them two are the only I would consider low dosing with

Still gonna have a massive mushroom trip this year tho
 
4-aco-dmt for me is a curse & a glory, the 1st time I did it I went in at 60mg & had the most extreme visual effects of anything I've ever done.
Since that 1st trip which I will admit scared the shit out of me i've stuck to around the 30/40mg dose, people say it's the same as mushrooms but i've done several 100 liberty cap trips & to compare the 2 is like saying coke is the same as pepsi.

Onloy issue i have with 4-aco is the body energy, when I come up off it the "vibrations" in my chest can be extreme, though to compare it for an alternatives to ketamine and benzos you are looking in the wrong place.
 
I've done 4-HO-MET dozens of times, at all dose ranges, I have to say that lately I did it socially with a few mates at doses as low as 15 mgs, which for me is unusual as I would normally take a first oral capsule with 25 mgs followed by a couple of 5 mgs insufflated top-ups. But I have to say that at low doses it is indeed very nice, I was surprised, not visual but still very much enjoyable.
 
I think 4-aco and mushrooms are two of the psychedelics I would take in small doses, just because if I am going to be dosing low, I won't want strong visuals, just enhanced headspace, pleasant body load that you get from mushrooms (I find it very MDMA-esque) so them two are the only I would consider low dosing with

Still gonna have a massive mushroom trip this year tho

Yeah agreed, it felt much more like the kind of high I would want as an alternative to MDMA since it is such a rushing, fake feeling (for me anyway), the 4-ho-met just had lovely pulses of natural like euphoria shooting through me at points, a sense of confidence and being awake and alert, bearing in mind I had no visuals really at all. There was an altered perception where I everything looked different and maybe some slight breaths here and there. Another said they got visuals but they are less experienced with tripping and I think after a while the visuals take a bit more to come out.

Looking forward to strong mushie trips, find them much more rewarding for life thinking etc compared to LSD more grounded or something. Especially also to compare to 4-aco-dmt would like to see the natural.

4-aco-dmt for me is a curse & a glory, the 1st time I did it I went in at 60mg & had the most extreme visual effects of anything I've ever done.
Since that 1st trip which I will admit scared the shit out of me i've stuck to around the 30/40mg dose, people say it's the same as mushrooms but i've done several 100 liberty cap trips & to compare the 2 is like saying coke is the same as pepsi.

Onloy issue i have with 4-aco is the body energy, when I come up off it the "vibrations" in my chest can be extreme, though to compare it for an alternatives to ketamine and benzos you are looking in the wrong place.

I find if you get a rough comeup on that stuff the senses blending until your sick can be insane, did it once with k-cramps and never again. Felt like water was speaking, toilet bowl was serpent like, etc. But it's not bad for nausea for me at all. I would say there is a difference to mushrooms also. Mushrooms wouldn't be considered for this for the nausea alone for me, wouldn't want to risk it in unpredictable environments rather than just enjoy it, were these trypts are a bit softer flowing I find.

Why would you say it's wrong place? Trying to just stop regular ketamine usage is my main thing here as it's starting to fuck me over.

Mental Kenny I was always against low dose psys till I tried this, although to be fair I have only recently started moving from mushies/lsd to other trypts in the past year and was never a big fan of 2cs. I thought it would cloud my thoughts but I was fine with normal tasks and didn't feel nervous at all, although I may possibly have been different to those around me due to the boost.
 
what do you mean better for your brain?
effects wise benzos are quite a way away from psychedelics imho
 
i mainly want an alternative to ketamine usage in my weekday drug usage, I'm wondering if psychedelics like 4-aco-dmt are a reasonable option in ~10mg doses so that perception is changed, euphoria, headspace etc. I also doubt this will be a weekly thing as I like to let things build up a bit and let some things have occurred since the last anyway even if it's deep or not.
 
Acidtrippin - I can only give you my view, you have to walk your own path, be it with 4-aco or anything else. I wish you luck :)
 
cheers, was just wondering why you felt it wouldnt really be a suitable thing or if you've any suggestions? I'm just trying to come up with some ideas to get more rewarding trips rather than being k'd out zombie for a few hours and left with cramps - which are now starting to properly mess me over. I just have no idea how safe from peoples experience it seems to be to dose tryptamines such as 4-aco-dmt/4-ho-met at lower doses so it is less of a trip and more of (for me) a body high, confident feeling but natural, really lovely and obviously the headspace is much more rewarding than ketamine - will I find anyway, although it didn't really get much of one at 10mg.
 
Top