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100 mg Morphine dosage

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adillonm15

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Picking up a couple of these..

I've never taken morphine before but I need about 45mg of hydrocodone to get to where I want to be... How much of the morphine should I take?
 
Since you need 45 mg of hydrocodone, then I would take about 50 mg of morphine orally.
 
Morphine is a bit tricky, it isn't nearly as active orally as it is active through other routes, snorting included.

What route of administration are you planning on using?
 
Good advice from kokaino, orally morphine and hydrocodone are considered equianalgesic and some recreational users claim hydrocodone to be a little stronger. Often times people see the low oral BA and assume its weak but its still a very strong opiate.
 
Orally Morphine is very weak. If I had a 45mg tolerance to Hydrocodone I would need to take 100mg. According to conversion charts they are equivalent in potency. It is the sustained release mechanism of MSContin that makes it feel so weak. Morphine is a great opioid IV'd...very powerful but when taken orally I just can't seem to get where I want to be. Its like it teases me. I'll almost get to where I want to be and then...nope. Disappointing.
 
^please note that this is just one person's experience. I have A LOT of experience with hydrocodone and morphine and if my tolerance was to 45mg of hydrocodone, 100mg would probably have me barely conscious in a pile of vomit.
 
K'd-OUT-in-AZ said:
Orally Morphine is very weak. If I had a 45mg tolerance to Hydrocodone I would need to take 100mg. According to conversion charts they are equivalent in potency. It is the sustained release mechanism of MSContin that makes it feel so weak. Morphine is a great opioid IV'd...very powerful but when taken orally I just can't seem to get where I want to be. Its like it teases me. I'll almost get to where I want to be and then...nope. Disappointing.
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100 mg for the OP would be way too much - it don't matter if it's timed release. Oral or not, morphine is a powerful narcotic (one of the most powerful out there) not to be fucked around with, especially not by a relatively opioid naive person like the OP. Out of all the opioids in comon usage, morphine produces the greatest amount of respiratory depression and cardiovascular effects.

Those opioid conversion charts seem to be the end all be all for your conversion needs. They are there just to give us an idea - not to definitively give us the dose we should take when we are switching from X opioid to Y opioid, because there are a lot of factors to consider besides the dose. Everyone is different, some people metabolize drugs quicker than others, some slower. It all depends on the individual, the charts are there just to give an idea not to give definitive answers.
 
^exactly, its an average, not a universality. There will always be variance for individuals.
 
Oh yes, the sustained release will definitely make a difference. Are you saying that you get just as high from taking an instant release drug as you would sustained release. Example: Oxycodone. Would you feel higher after taking a 60mg OC or after taking 60mg of Roxicodone (both orally)? If your answer is "you'd feel the same" then you would be in the lower percentile. Instant release drugs will always have that quick kick and have you going in 20-30 minutes. With Sustained released drugs a smaller dose is released at first and then another dose, another dose.
 
^no, I'm pretty sure he understands what sustained release means. I can't speak for him but I took his meaning as that being a high enough dose that for most people (perhaps not you) it could still be too much even in SR form.
 
OK, I see what he was getting at now that you explained it. Of course, regardless if it is SR or IR it could still be too much (or too little) depending on what the dose in question is. In this situation we are talking 100mg and you two believe it to be to high and rather or not it really is (I know plenty of people who would agree with me) it doesn't matter if its SR or not.

On another note: My explanation for why I would need double the dose (as they are equivalent in potency - hydro and Morph) of Morphine is because with MSContin roughly half the dose is released after the first couple hours, making me need twice that to get the same similar feeling
 
Cane2theLeft said:
^way to go, champ
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i know my e-dick is enormous(you can touch it if you want;))

what i'm trying to get at is, noone even brought up weight or gender for that matter when recommending a dose.

Fat and large built people generally need larger doses of drugs, men generally need more than women.

now from what i can see you'd all have OP severely underdose

i mean i've heard the saying but shit, taking it a bit far?
 
^what do we need his measurements for if we already know his preferred dose of a cross-tolerant drug (which is near-universally a more accurate predictor)?

Personally, I'd rather not get quite as high as I wanted the first time trying a new drug than be vomiting my guts out which is the most common reaction when people who are not as experienced with opiates exceed their tolerance.
 
i dunno about you but painting the toilet pretty colours is as valid as any other way to pass the time :o
 
Im picking up Morphine SR 100mg (gray pills) next week but will break a pill up in 3 ways & take approximately 33mg's first time dosing.
 
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