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100% Good trip possible after bad one(s)?

It all depends what we're talking about when we say "bad trip".

Harris is talking about a "bad trip" where he forgot he had taken a drug, forgot who/what he was and forgot what time was and that the trip would or could end. I hope I never experience anything even close to that but I can see how a truly hellish bad trip like that could ruin the psychedelic state for a person.
 
Quantum Perception said:
He admits to using them but says once he had bad trips it was hard for him to ever have completely good trips afterward.
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Oh, no. Don't listen to that nonsense. I've had absolutely awful trips. My first trips were abysmal failures. It does nothing to harm future endeavors. Usually my best trips come after my worst.


They knock yeh down so they can build you back up again. :D
 
I see the darkness now, but I'm not afraid of it. When I have the rare opportunity to indulge in psychedelics I enjoy them just as much as I ever did.
 
acidclouds said:
It all depends what we're talking about when we say "bad trip".

Harris is talking about a "bad trip" where he forgot he had taken a drug, forgot who/what he was and forgot what time was and that the trip would or could end. I hope I never experience anything even close to that but I can see how a truly hellish bad trip like that could ruin the psychedelic state for a person.
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It sucks. A lot.

TheAppleCore said:
Oh, no. Don't listen to that nonsense. I've had absolutely awful trips. My first trips were abysmal failures. It does nothing to harm future endeavors. Usually my best trips come after my worst.
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I very much hope I can say the same thing in a year's time. With only one good experience to remember so far, I've come very close to walking away twice.

But, you do learn from the bad ones, people kept saying that and I thought I understood it until I had a few, then it made sense in a whole new (dark) light.
 
I have had one bad LSD trip, it was the highest dose I had ever taken at the time (300 Mics.) I spent the first 5-6 hours out in the forest and everything went amazingly. I felt the come down coming on so I meandered home to listen to some music and think/reflect. All of a sudden I got a really really bad headache and I couldnt focus on anything besides how bad the headache was. The trip then started to reach a second plateau, so I had a killer headache and I was starting to hallucinate again. I ran upstairs and threw up (tie dye vomit), and then laid on the floor for about 20 minutes, which of course seemed like hours saying to myself over and over that LSD had finally killed me. I finally was able to grab onto to a good thought and redirected the trip however....


anyway, I dropped again about a week later, same amount, and had an absolutely amazing trip.<3
 
YES. Once you find yourself in a good trip after having had a bad experience/trip it is a very confirming liberating thing. It will break you free of whatever binds you were holding onto after the bad experience. You will have an AaaHaa!!! moment and you realize you have nothing to be worried about. It feels really good! Most of my trips involve either losing or gaining certain fears.
 
Anecdote time: a friend of mine tripped on acid for the first time last weekend. It was a disaster, pretty much the archetypal bad trip. She thought that time had stopped and she was stuck in a single moment forever, that reality had ceased to exist, that we were all figments of her imagination. She punched me in the face and destroyed a bunch of things, including her glasses. Really awful first trip. Talking about it afterwards, she said she felt that acid had kicked her ass and that she wanted to try again so she could kick its ass. So today she tripped for the second time (on a much more sane dose) and had an absolutely amazing time. I'd say it was pretty close to a 100% good trip.

So yes, it is possible.
 
Quantum Perception said:
So my question to BL->PD is do you think the above is true; that being, is it impossible, no matter how much one prepares their set and setting, to avoid bad trips?

Discuss....
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No. And I actually find "preparing" yourself is setting yourself up for a bad time at least for part of the trip. Because that's what you're going to be focusing on "I don't want to have a bad trip, everything must be right"... and you get obsessed with that thought and that consumes a lot of it and then you start thinking of all the things that can go bad... blah blah blah.

I used to believe you had to TRY to get enlightenment from psychedelics. Anymore, on the occasions I do imbibe, I don' go in with expectations. If I have an enlightened experience, I have an enlightened experience. If not, it's just at least eye opening and an enjoyable night.

The only thing I prep for in advance is the fact that nobody will be bothering me, my fish tank is clean and I have a wide range of genres of music. I let the trip goes where it will, not the other way around.
 
^^Yeah, I think that over-preparing tends to feed into obsessive or loopy behavior during a trip as well. For example, doing something over and over, or wanting something that you told yourself earlier you needed for a good trip and being unhappy until you have it (blanket, camera, music, etc.).

I think that set is much more important than setting. Setting CAN fuck up a trip, but pretty much everything that affects a trip is going on in your mind.
 
If you believe you're going to have a bad trip, you more likely will.
 
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