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10-bromo-2-(2-chlorophenyl)- 3,6- diazabicyclo[5.4.0]undeca- 2,8,10,12-tetraen-5-one

anyone tried this one since the last post in this thread was made?
my labrats have got some at their disposal but they don't wanna eat it cos they are wondering just how long they'd be woozy and how woozy they'd be.
 
it has a very long plasma-halftime (dont know if thi is the right translation). i wouldnt touch it.
 
I recently acquired some and had quite an embarassing time with it, which was all my fault of course.

First I measured out 6 mg on a 2mg accurate scale, and since it doesn't get any result below 6 mg usually I decided just to take what looked like half the powder. I just did this orally, not sublingually, which was an oversight since I normally take benzos under the tongue.

Anyway, I didn't notice much at first, so I started to make a batch for liquid measurement. I put a gram (minus what I had already taken) and mixed it with 100 ml vodka. This didn't dissolve very well so I put it on a hot water bath (lid on vodka to prevent evaporation). This did the trick. All the remaining phenazepam dissolved within at max a half hour.

At this point the original oral dose began kicking in good, and it being 3 mg (which is 6 times the therapeutic dose) it did a grand job of eliminating my inhibitions. I decided I'd inject some of the vodka solution. I used a micropore filter wheel just to be totally safe.

I IV'd approximately 2-5 mg of vodka, phen, and saline. I think I got two IV shots in. One had a lot more vodka in it because it stung a bit and my vein was sore the next day.

Now there I was, on anywhere between 7 and 13 mg of phenazepam, and I'm feeling very good. And that's when I decided to IM. I don't remember this part, or much of the next week. My IM syringes hold 10cc's, so it's entirely possible I injected 100mgs of phenazepam. I really don't know.

The next thing I know it is the next day and my girlfriend is somehow in my apartment, very angry and curious as to my strange behavior and needle marks. Apparently it took her a long time to get any meaningful information out of me, since I was slipping in and out of consciousness and could form only fragmented sentences. There was a strange sawdust material all over my kitchen floor that no one could explain.

She spent the next three days caring for me, during which she claimed my body temperature was very low, my breathing shallow, and my heart rate low. But my bouts of consciousness gave her hope, and she didn't call the ER. I came out of it and was close to normal enough by the end of the week to go on a road trip, but my memory of this is like swiss cheese. I barely remember anything from that week.

tl;dr: Be careful with dosing this stuff. Even with good scales and proper liquid measurement techniques, the benzo assault on inhibitions may mean you take far more than you wanted. I could have taken anywhere between 8 and 113 mg of phenazepam, and while this isn't what I sought out to do it's what I ended up doing.

I guess this could have happened to anyone who overdoes there benzo intake, but since this page seems lacking in actual experiences I'd add mine.

BTW, the drug high was fairly nice, euphorically opiate-like when you come to the next day. I'm not sure what it's like at lower doses. I caution anyone to try what I did, since the recommended dose is half a milligram.
 
Thanks for the info...

...but what possessed you to ingest that much in those ways when you hadn't yet tried it? And if you were going to make a solution of it for liquid measurement anyway, why did you eyeball a dose with a +-2mg scale first? 8o 8o
 
Xorkoth said:
Thanks for the info...

...but what possessed you to ingest that much in those ways when you hadn't yet tried it? And if you were going to make a solution of it for liquid measurement anyway, why did you eyeball a dose with a +-2mg scale first? 8o 8o
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The drug itself neutralized my inhibitions and I just went a little crazy with redosing. It reminded me of ambien, where I'd take one at night and wake up and about twenty would be gone. Ambien and this particular benzo are the only drug I've ever obsessively redosed on before (well, I guess we can count coke and nitrous). I'm normally very safe and moderate with RC ingestion, but this time was different. It must be the nature of this drugs interaction on me.

I eyeballed the dose because the scale won't register any mass below 6mg, so it has a range (6mg-10000mg) and a resolution (2mg). Having taking a bunch of benzos before, I figured about half of a 6 mg pile would be plenty fun and not too dangerous, being at best six times the recommended dose, and at worst twelve times. I've taken that many times the recommended doses of other benzos without ill effect. At this point I hadn't really planned on making a liquid batch at all.

I wasn't feeling much of half the 6 mg pile, so I wanted better accuracy in dosing. That's when I made the batch for liquid measurement. Unfortunately when I was done making the batch, the benzos kicked in and I decided I'd try it in new interesting ways and went way overboard.
 
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once i took 5 pills of the russian brand. don't sure what dose, i think it's 0.5mg.
i was already fucked up on benzos & shit... i did feel a benzo effect, but it not impressed me too much. i think clonazepam and alprazolam are better.
that's all i remember of the experience.
 
^^^^

this type of "involuntary" re-dosing is more common than I think is known and should be of greater awareness to the RC public

thankfully this time it ended with him coming out fine it appears, but this is not always the case
 
I'd like to know more about this benzo.

How does it compare to other benzos? And does anyone have halflife info or even an estimated timeline of onset, plateu, and comedown?
 
Structurally, it's similar to lorazepam and clonazepam, and even more so delorazepam (only difference being a chloro where phenazepam has a bromo, the next halogen down). I too would like to hear an estimated duration timeline, and how it compares to other benzos. Everything I read makes it sound like it lasts too long, but at what sort of dosages is it actually a problem? I doubt near-therapeutic doses would be a problem, but if solid recreational doses last for an entire day or more, it might be best avoided for those purposes.
 
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