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1-Phenyl-2-methylaminobutan-1-one

hmm... why is there so little research done on this chemical? Its been around since the 20's
 
^ So maybe the next step would be 1-phenyl-2-(ethylamino)-butan-1-one?
 
yaesutom said:
A guy on another forum :
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Yeah, that's me.
I'm very impatient for test report about this stuff, from rat's lab who have another source.
In fact, i know one guy who also tried this stuff, he bought the chemical in the same shop, the findings seems to be similar.

I'm not pharmacologist but like many people, the property of this chemical made me hope a lot.
Even without proper formation, it's easy to make speculation on buphedrone pharmacodynamics.

For the moment one things was sure, buphedrone for this popular shop have all the property of something that's not 1-phenyl-2-(N-methylamino)-1-butanone.

To be honest, the dosage in the report are false (self-censorship because of people potentially ownership of potent buphedrone) Maximum dosage 200mg. Without effect.
750mg was consuming on 10hours. On the eleventh hours I was going to bed and I slept soundly.

I know someone who had some nice effect with vaporization on a crack pipe (the all panel of theoretical effect), I wouldn't recommend this method to anyone due to the structure of the component. Certainly very toxic.
 
A guy I know that yesterday sold me some weed that tastes like cat piss said that he had tried buphedrone at around 50mg dosages and had no effects whatsoever.
 
Hey yaesutom I got your PM, but I can't reply to you since I don't have BL status yet :(
Send me another PM with an email address and I'll get back to you that way...Or you'll have to wait for me to make another 30 or so posts I think.

To make this post on topic:
What is the upper limit on dosing for buph? Has anyone found the effects to be better in higher doses? Or is it the same lackluster clean stim effect just lasting longer?
 
GuiGz said:
To be honest, the dosage in the report are false (self-censorship because of people potentially ownership of potent buphedrone) Maximum dosage 200mg. Without effect.750mg was consuming on 10hours. On the eleventh hours I was going to bed and I slept soundly.
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ummm come again...so the 20mg dose from the excerpted report was actually 750mg? please do not misreport infomation on new compounds, even if your intention is to help people. its far better to be honest, honest and extremely cautionary.
well i can say its likely everyone except hugo is getting their buph from the same place, and although it may not be as strong as i anticipated i am almost certain that 750mg would send me to the ER, maybe im wrong though...?
 
Ham, that's not how i read his post - i read it as 750mg of the fake-buphedrone consumed in multiple smaller doses over the course of 10 hours, with no single dose no larger than 200mg.

If the stuff from the good supplier is as potent as other people are saying though, that much of the good stuff would probably be a Bad Thing.

It's unfortunate that right as the well known supplier started selling it, some other supplier started selling fake stuff with ~1/10th the potency.

I'm jealous of all the people who've gotten theirs already >.>
 
yeah dont winge cos you got shit buphedrone- it most definitely is active at doses of 20-30mg but just like amphetamine that can rapidly increase in a binge style. the high is mellow and tweaky yet clear headed

if you had 200mg of the good variety in one go you would be seriously uncomfortable (ill) and feel like you were going to pop.
 
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Is there a cross tolerance with mephedrone? is the ED of this affected by recent heavy meph use?
 
it has none of the serotondergic push of mephedrone. if you are stimulant tolerant it will affect your tolerance to buphedrone, but as for crossover its difficult to tell. bear in mind this stuff is far more powerfull dopamine effects than mephedrone...
 
Tried this one out tonight.

20mg insufflated - My opinion seems the same as whats been said, its a real clean stim with some euphoria (its got a different "flavor" / feeling to it but can't describe it), very clean MUCH cleaner than MDPV. Also no paranoia like MDPV causes in me (or anxiety).

About 15-20 mins into it it seemed to peak, and I get a little vision "fluidity" that I get from mephedrone or certain other drugs like DMT (where everything seems more fluid) which made me wonder if it releases a little serotonin - feels really relaxed but nowhere to the degree of mephedrone (or MDMA etc).

I guess its not too bad, way more useful than MDPV, or probably methylphenidate for me, but not as good as amphetamine..
 
This stuff seems almost useless - I can see how someone could do 750mg or 200mg or whatever...

I did probably about 80mg total yesterday, and about 1.5 hours ago snorted 35mg, then took 65mg in a capsule about 40 mins ago, and I can barely feel it.. i guess you get a huge tolerance almost immediately.

I don't understand the "ceiling effect" - its like you can only get mildly high and taking more does nothing... someone else mentioned taking larger doses just increases the duration but its not any more intense - seems to be true, but i wonder why?

I would say its definitely not worth paying much money for..
 
Well that was a quick shift of oppinion. What does larger doses do?
Also, could this perhaps be an 'extender' or 'enhancer' like with 2C-D?

I should be receiving some of this in january.
 
I like this stuff.

I've been taking small bumps of it tonight, at the definite low end of the dose spectrum, and it does exactly what i'd hoped it would do - make me feel nice and awake, mild mood lift, without physical side effects.
 
I would post this in BDD, but I feel like I'll get better answers here even if I have to revive this thread.

I hear many people saying that buphedrone is like amphetamine, minus the adrenergic 'push'.

I've heard that combos of ethcathinone, which is almost purely noradrenergic, and buphedrone have yielded very positive euphoric results. =D

I am receiving my buphedrone in a few days, and I can't help but wonder if anyone has tried combing it with ephedrine?

Ephedrine is also primarily noradrenergic, and it has a duration much closer to buphedrone's than ethcathinone does.

I was thinking about popping like 25mg of ephedrine and than busting out like a 30mg line of buphedrone 20 minutes later; it seems like this would be a really cheap and easy OTC way of turning buphedrone into a better stimulant.

I'll be sure to give it a go when I receive my shipment, as I have quite a few 25mg 'bronkaid' ephedrine tablets lying around, but I was wondering if anyone else thought this was a good idea?
 
I can tell you only from my expierence with cthinones and it seems that things like methcathinone(and buphedrone is very similar indeed) are good for injecting it and having a strong rush. The posses such a state of mind when you can only enjoy this hedonic rush but these substances are not fucntional, e.g. i can play my bass guitar for 20 hour on amphetamine, but not even a hour on methcat or alpha-pppp or mpdv, i pluck strings for ten minutes and after that think - shit, mood is wrong.
 
Does anyone happen to know the receptor affinities of this one?
 
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