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1,4b questions - exp users only pls

TheVehicle

TheVehicle

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I am very interested in trying 1,4-Butanediol. I found a web site that sells it, it is a raw chemical supplier. Its liquid, 500ml for $55.20 USD. (DENSITY: 1L = 1.02KG) Is this a good deal? Also, I hear people talk about pills, but I have only seen liquid suppliers, and online librarys seem to only describe liquid. Whats the deal with that? How many mg's would you recommend for a 150 lb person? If I remember correctly, I believe one site said about 4 mgs would be good. Math people, help me out! I dont trust my math skills with my life, how many mg's are there in the bottle? Upon knowing that, I could improvise a measurement device, but im sure some of you have great suggestions for me. Another point: Were talking about HO(CH2)4OH - thats the correct chemical I reckon (it better be) I would paste the link, but I dont wanna break the rules. If experienced users can verify everything I will go ahead and place my order today. Also, please excuse this post, Im sure its been asked a hundred times, but Ive been away for so long...
 
ME AGAIN! As I continue researching, I have found only more questions. Erowid (did I say that? oops) Specifies that it breaks down into GHB in the body. This guy says otherwise: http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php3?ID=8852
Thats a damn scarry story!! Has anyone heard of any of those hellish nighmares coming true? What about all those post of extreme addiction! The shakes, hospital visits, etc. Is it like that? Is it really addiction or some evil toxic side effect to cause that? Some one, please enlighten me.
 
A reasonable dose of 1,4b is 2mls (2,5/3 if you want to fall asleep) on a empty stomach.
1,4b is methabolized by the liver into ghb; maibe you got confused because it's not possible to synth ghb from 1,4b( you would have to make butyrolactone from 1,4b first) . It's way easier to start from gbl (butyrolactone). Do a bit of research, there's a lot of urban myths surrounding ghb and it's precursors http://www.ceri.com/ghbalt.htm is a start...
 
You might want to check out alt.drugs.ghb.
The price you mention sounds a bit cheap compared to the standards ("real" chemical companies report suspicius sales to the pigs). If I were you I'd buy gbl instead (it's slightly more expensive but... if you get bored you can buy some NAOH and play chemist).
 
Sounds like bullshit to me. The DEA has lots better things to do than to harrass some kid who buys something that wasn't listed anyway. Do some reading over at the hive and rhodium (wherever they are now). This doesn't sound like their tactics. They want to arrest people, not harass them. If they thought something was up, they'd case the place and track the guy and then move in for an arrest. This is some bullshit kid getting his kicks by posting a story. The attorney part sounds like a load of crap too.
1,4BDO is supposedly toxic to the liver and is NOT recommended by most folks who know anything about pharmacology. Yes, it does get converted to GHB in the body. There's lots of research out there and if people weren't getting a buzz off of it, they wouldn't sell it to begin with.
If you are careful, I have read that there are ways to procure gbl (which IS a list one precursor by the way) from outside the US. Do some more reading and research.
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The opposite of war isn't peace, it's creation .......Johnathan Larson
 
2mL should fuck you up... but dosing is tricky because there are a lot of factors involved. IMO, people who have higher alcohol tolerances can handle more 1,4... but as you dose people you'll learn. You'll probably knock a couple friends out, then take pictures of them being tea-bagged, but this is all out of good fun. Get one of those nifty oral syringes at a local drug store for dosing. Prepare to get mega-horny and try not to fall asleep while a significant other is going down on you. They hate that.
 
Prepare to get mega-horny and try not to fall asleep while a significant other is going down on you.
Click to expand...
I feel better knowing that i'm not the only one that passed out while receiving oral sex on 1,4b.
Superhorny one minute, out cold the next.
 
cool - Ive done more research, it sounds like it could be harmful but in moderation is OK. I would go for the GBL, but I read that it is monitored now, I would believe it. I do have NaOH tho, I Romancat, can I convert GBL with it?
 
Dose 1,4B is really hard. If you get to the point where you're really fucked up, It seems like you're guarenteed to fall asleep in 20 minutes or so. I gotta try mixing it with a stimulant. Anybody try mixing it with coke or speed.. or perhaps even MDMA?
 
Definelty-I mix G everytime w/ some kind of stimulant-at least ephedrine. W/out any stimulant, I see super tired and the high tends to be less, well 'stimulating'. I highly reccommend mixing G w/ any stimulant-meth, coke, ephedrine, whatever. I wouldn't take MDMA at the same time as G, but as you come off your roll, NOTHING brings back the euphoria like a cap of G,mmmmm.......
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You will not find GBL in the US anymore unless you have a DEA liscence. Unlike NaOH, GBL is NOT a hazardous substance, so it doesn't raise many flags at certain regulatory agencies.
Just a note to be careful who you give certain information to via email.
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The opposite of war isn't peace, it's creation .......Johnathan Larson
 
GBL is a listed precursor, you can still get it in the US - well, I wouldn't say "you" can get it (as in order from your local chemical supplier like you could) ... but you would be surprised what local businesses use GBL on a regular basis, and many dispose of large amounts of their "used" GBL (which you can still use to hake GHB just fine) ..
Anyone wanna take some guesses as to the local businesses in your area that might be worth getting to know?
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"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is: 'What are they in a position to do about it?'" (William S. Burroughs)
 
Phreex, I know that where I live they use GBL as a contact cement cleaner. I know a couple office cleaners that use it. It can also be used to clean air planes. One more I can think of, that I do know personally, is a hobby shop that has model trains and the like.
Also, I love mixing g and speed but for the last two weekends I have mixed coke and g and it made me puke. I wonder what the trouble. Ususally I can handle just about any combo pretty well but not those.
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Cheers,
Jesse!
[This message has been edited by Jes (edited 05 October 2001).]
 
Just buy from other countries, as long as you don't buy too much i.e. more than a litre bottle, shouldn't have a problem.... It's great for cleaning ink from your printer's jets.Use a siringe to dose, they are free in every pharmacy.... tell them that you need to dose cough syrup they will offer a dosing spoon or a syringe with no needle load to 2mls... have fun.
 
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