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1-(4-methyl-phenyl)-2-pyrrolidinyl-butyrophenone - First Time - Good & Short

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SWIM has recently prepared a sample of 1-(4-methyl-phenyl)-2-pyrrolidinyl-butyrophenone which is an analog of pyrovalerone with 1-cabon shorter side chain.

This sample was tested by several people having none to strong tolerance to cathinones. All three males and one female expierinced moderate mental stimulation and severe euphoria. The dosage was 50 mgs intramuscularly for non-tolerant people and 100 mgs intravenously for a man with high tolerance, producing 1-2 hour pleasant effect. Empathogenic effect was little, as well as physical stimulation. The sleep was possible after 4-5 hours , or , with some benzos after the main effects have subsided.

The overall rating is good, the substance is a short-lasting recreational stimulator like 4-fluoro-amphetamine.
 
If you want to add more to this report please do so, or else Im going to have to close it. But since this is a rare one I want you to try and add more to the experience. We like to have full stories like on erowid, not an overview of a new chem. thanks,

and the title

Substance - Experience level - Title
 
can you draw the structure? I'm having trouble picturing what you mean.

you mean where the a-propyl group is, you have a ethyl?
 
t+0.00 60 mg 4Ме-PBP*HCl was injected in the bum. Initial mood was OK but a bit bored
t+0.03 - first signs of state alteration
t+0.05 - I feel tension in the temple
t+0.10 - the inner feeling is obviously different from baseline. No euphoria , but I feel deeply concentrated in interested in anything I do
t+0.12 - wow! Just two minutes, I felt like it was greater than 10, time seems slowed down . I want to solve all existing problems and take part in anything around. I feel like I can overcome all my troubles
t+0.16 pupils are not dilated, they normally react on light. All little things seem important and I don't want to miss anything
t+0.28 I felt really talkative and called a friend. Then I prepared tea with extreme diligence
t+0.32 - spilled a glass of water on a desk, I'm so carefull yet so untidy
t+0.33 - finished wiping out the water. It seems I've reached the plateau
t+0.38 - effect doesn't increase , I feel good.
t+0.40 - I think I could feel the molecules of this substance inside my brain travelling. That's amazing. The world is full of possibilities
t+0.46 - I'm not sweating though I feel warmth inside me.
t+0.52 - I can't find anything I need.
t+0.53 - I'm constantly chatting in ICQ! I have so much to say, and I fell empathy.

t+1.04 - I had a sigarette. The desire to smoke was extreme
t+1.05 - I talk about everithing and I'm overwhelmed by thoughts and ideas
t+1.23 - I wish I had some GHB to combine with that
t+1.36 - the feeling of being unsatisfied has appeared. I want more 50 mgs!
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This report wasn't mine. The next day that dude said that the stuff was good. That he would not say in case he had a hard hangover.
It seems the stuff gives some beeriness, as 4-methylamphetamine and MDMA.
I didn't feel any empathy but that dude and the others said the drug makes them big-hearted and fanatically talkative - that seems individual. I don't like to talk while on MDMA either.

And more about aftereffects. I myself, as I felt the high coming down injected 10 mgs of diazepam IM and went to sleep. The next day I felt tired and lazy, working was unpleasant. However it's much easier than after MCAT

P.S. BTW how can I post an image here? I don't see any button to make an attachment
 
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Dysporsium said:
It seems the stuff gives some beeriness, as 4-methylamphetamine and MDMA.
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beeriness? how was 4-methylamphetmine btw, that one is pretty rare too. i love hearing about about these exotic stimulants.
 
stirfry said:
beeriness? how was 4-methylamphetmine btw, that one is pretty rare too. i love hearing about about these exotic stimulants.
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- for clarity purposes, you mean 1-4(methoxyamphetamine) or the 1(4-fluorophenyl)methoxy-propan-2-amine (my nomenclatire is just SO wrong! 4-FMA is what I'm gettting at.

Past reports say 4-FA = good, 4-FMA = too great a side effect profile.
 
I thought that 4-FM was supposed to be quite good, with a really nice MDMA-ish sparkle that went away with time?

I suspect it's an MAOI though.

I hope he doesn't mean 4-methoxy-amphetamine. That's PMA, if you're unaware. 4-Methylamphetamine won't have the risks of PMA though.
 
I've had 1-phenyl-2-(N-methylamino)-1-butanone in the past and it probably had the best ratio of dopaminergic/noradrenergic effects of any of the aminoketones (including the beloved MDPV), so replacing the methylamino group with a 1-pyrrolidino might prove to be even more intersting (don't think the 4-methyl group is that important)
 
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