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PriestTheyCalledHim said:

San Francisco Pride group drops rocker Dee Snider after he speaks out against transitioning kids

www.msn.com
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is that the same Dee Snider that dressed in drag and called it RocknRoll?



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Delusional, and living in a fantasy world.

Transphobia is on the rise in the US. Meet the transgender people planning to relocate to Europe because they can no longer stand the 'hostile environment.'

www.msn.com

I bet that when or if he/she/it/they emigrate to Iceland or any of the Nordic/Scandinavian countries they will just suck up the benefits, stay on the dole, and live in poverty and will be shocked that all of the Nordic/Scandinavian countries are super expensive to live in, and despite the national running joke about lying on polls or a survey they are not the world's happiest countries, there is lots of alcoholism, racism, distrust of outsiders/foreigners/people who draw attention/stick out/do not look or act 'normal' or think they are super special the way trans folx do, and super high rates of depression and SSRI use.
 
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arrall said:
Why?
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The T&Q (trans and the homophobic slur 'queer') are too extreme leftist, homophobic/biphobic-many trans people hate gay and bisexual men and women and anyone who is not trans, insist that everyone has to fuck, date, or marry trans people when there is zero sexual attraction or romantic desire or any other type of desire for this at all, and now are supporting children going to LGB bars, tranny/TV/drag bars, drag shows and events dressing in drag, and that it is perfectly safe and good for children and teens and mentally ill adults to take hormones, have irreversible sex change surgeries, etc.

Furthermore, the vast majority of bisexuals and gays, even those who are drag queens or drag kings are not trans, do not have any desire to have a sex change, take hormones, etc.
 
mal3volent said:
Why would we want to divorce ourselves from ordinary trans people? Don't forget there are lots of them out there and they're nothing like some of the extreme fringe examples you see on the internet.
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If you say so. The ones I was friends with or who I have known, and met in real life are completely cuckoo, crazy, off the charts with various severe mental illnesses, very homophobic/biphobic, have no basic social skills, and cannot even work at or stay at a basic minimum wage job for any period of time.

Why? Because bisexuals and gays, even those into drag have nothing in common with trans and 'queer' people, different political and social goals/interests, medical needs, we do not have issues with our sex/gender, etc.

Trans,people tend to invade and take over social and discussion groups for bisexual and gay men and women, and like all manipulative gaslighting narcissistic types make everything all about the trans person's needs, issues, etc.

Trans people have also revised and created a false history/narrative. I know and have been personal friends with multiple bisexual and gay men and women who were actually at the Stonewall demonstrations on the first night and on the other nights. They are all adamant that Trans people and TRANSWOMYN 'of colour' were not at the Stonewall demonstrations, did not start them, were in the park picking up trick$, nodding out on heroin, and not there or involved in later years or the fight for LGB equality and rights. The vast majority of bisexual and gay men and women who were at or involved with the Stonewall demonstrations were white.

When LGB people finally won the right to have same sex marriage, serve in the military and be out trans people became super angry, jealous, and spouted out their usual homophobia/biphobia. When the Employment non-discrimination act which LGB people worked on for decades, was almost going to pass and get signed into law trans people, T/Q and TRAs-trans rights activists-completely sabotaged and threw temper tantrums because the bill and law did not mention trans people.

Now Trans, 'queer', and TRAs have been manipulating and basically forcing mentally ill children, teens, and young adults into thinking that they are trans and that they must take hormones, have irreversible sex change surgeries, etc.
 
Transvestites

Transvestitism has a long history, which dates back to the time of man’s origin. Additionally, the Holy Bible talks about the transvestites. They dress like the opposite sex, i.e. males dress like females or vice versa. In the early 20th century, the term was coined as the persons who wear opposite sex’s clothes habitually and voluntarily, with either heterosexual or homosexual or bisexual or asexual interests. Transvestites have neither physiological nor morphological sexual changes, but psychologically they belong to the opposite sex more often than not. Because of this state of mind, they like to change their names according to their desires. However, certain people dress like the opposite sex in order to fulfill their sexual desires, but the transvestitism does not include them. If cross-dressing takes place for erotic purposes, then it could lead up to mental distress or impairment known as transvestic fetishism. However, because some wears like the opposite sex for recreational purposes, the term transvestite does not suit to him or her. A real transvestite does not necessarily have to have a certain sexual interest, and he or she wears like the opposite sex without any other’s influence.

Transsexuals

People who undergo the sexual reassignment surgery are the transsexuals. For example, a person born as a male will undergo the surgery to become a female by means of both morphologically and physiologically. Transgender is another term for the transsexual. However before the surgery was invented, the transsexuals were there. Therefore, a more precise definition for a transsexual would be a person whose sexual identity is inconsistent. It could be a result of mental impairment between the anatomical and the psychological states of a person. A study has proven that an area of the human brain, bed nucleus of the stria terminalis, is different in transsexuals. Additionally, genetic inheritance could also be a cause for this phenomenon according to reports by BBC in 2008. Sexual or gender reassignment surgery has been a good answer for the transsexuals’ desires. However, recent studies have confirmed that people who took the surgery tend to regret the reassignment of gender in their elder lives. Transsexuals in the end have almost all the sexual characteristics of the opposite sex through various techniques for including hormonal treatments.
 
PriestTheyCalledHim said:
Now Trans, 'queer', and TRAs have been manipulating and basically forcing mentally ill children, teens, and young adults into thinking that they are trans and that they must take hormones, have irreversible sex change surgeries, etc.
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can you elaborate? who, specifically has done this? and how did they do it? how often does it happen? can you be very specific? do you have a reliable source to share? vague generalities are not convincing.
 
PriestTheyCalledHim said:
Trans people have also revised and created a false history/narrative. I know and have been personal friends with multiple bisexual and gay men and women who were actually at the Stonewall demonstrations on the first night and on the other nights. They are all adamant that Trans people and TRANSWOMYN 'of colour' were not at the Stonewall demonstrations, did not start them, were in the park picking up trick$, nodding out on heroin, and not there or involved in later years or the fight for LGB equality and rights. The vast majority of bisexual and gay men and women who were at or involved with the Stonewall demonstrations were white.
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Did they have Photoshop in the 60s, then?

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equalityarchive.com

Transgender Women of Color at Stonewall | Equality Archive

History remembers New York’s iconic Stonewall Inn as the birthplace of the modern LGBT rights movement. On June 28, 1969 it’s bar patrons clashed with the police who had arrived to arrest and shame same-sex couples who came there to dance and socialize with each other. The Rebellion on this day...
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arrall said:
Did they have Photoshop in the 60s, then?

Marsha-P.-Johnson-and-Sylvia-Rivera.jpg


equalityarchive.com

Transgender Women of Color at Stonewall | Equality Archive

History remembers New York’s iconic Stonewall Inn as the birthplace of the modern LGBT rights movement. On June 28, 1969 it’s bar patrons clashed with the police who had arrived to arrest and shame same-sex couples who came there to dance and socialize with each other. The Rebellion on this day...
equalityarchive.com equalityarchive.com
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That is a perfect example of revisionist history. I personally know or was friends with bisexual and gay men and women who when they were alive, were at the Stonewall demonstrations. Trans people were not there or involved and the vast overwhelming majority of people there were white, and gay or bisexual men with a few lesbians.

The LGB rights movement was infiltrated by the Trans cult, and now our community is nothing but a host to a voracious parasite. Without lying, trans have nothing.

By her own admission, Marsha wasn't present when the demonstration broke out, and neither was Sylvia. She was even corrected by Marsha/Malcolm when she tried to claim responsibility for Stonewall.

Facts and history as it actually happened no longer matter.

As long as we all make sure to keep Trans people happy in their delusion, everything will be wonderful. Just deny reality, deny biology, lie to them, lie to yourselves, and then let them change history to further cement their delusion.

I've posted this before, and I'm going to keep posting as long as the trans crowd keep wrapping themselves in the rainbow flag.

Marcia/Marsha (despite the name) didn't identify as a woman, he was a gay man who liked feminine attire. Marcia also admitted that the tale of being the heroine of Stonewall was just that, a tale told to a reporter with an agenda and Marcus/Marsha did to feed his narcisscistic personality disorder and thought it was funny that the reporter and general was so stupid to believe this.

Sylvia & her boyfriend used to beat & rob gay and bisexual men, they actually bragged about it.

Before her tragic death in 1992 , Eric Marcus of Making Gay History interviewed self identified gay, transvestite, drag queen activist Marsha P. Johnson .Malcolm Michael Jr. and longtime gay activist Randy Wicker about the Stonewall Riots.


I was uptown and I didn’t get downtown until about two o’clock, because when I got downtown the place was already on fire. And it was a raid already. The riots had already started. And they said the police went in there and set the place on fire. They said the police set it on fire because they originally wanted the Stonewall to close, so they had several raids.” – Marsha/Marcus P. Johnson

In this rare and informative audio the details of that fateful night on June 28, 1969 come from Johnson’s own mouth and puts many of the rumors and folklore of the Stonewall Riots to rest once and for all.

History matters.

Accurate history matters even more.
 
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He had run up against a new trend of our time: political correction. If you engage in frank discussions about certain topics – climate change, jihadi finance, immigration, transgenderism – then you can expect the equivalent of a lawsuit. A breed of investigators or self-appointed fact-checkers will swoop, posing as judges of the truth – even if they often get it wrong. What was intended as a test of objectivity, a remedy to “fake news”, has ended up becoming a new form of bias.
 
yeah man, that telegraph opinion piece really proves a whole bunch.

anyway, everyone already knows there's a problem with "freedom" of speech in the u.k., no shade to our uk cousins, sorry for you guys. i know you have the speakers' corner, but...

@PriestTheyCalledHim

it's a really weird claim that trans people were not at stonewall riots, especially considering the police were enforcing a de facto no crossdressing rule... where can i read more about your side of it? a couple of friends of yours saying that NO trans people were there is dubious at best.
 
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