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trozzle said:
Not worth starting a thread (or even searching threads/other forums really), but holy shitting fucksticks can anyone PLEASE recommend something - ANYTHING - to counter this sudden unbelievably intolerable cramping/pump all through my posterior chain (I think that's the correct term)???? I don't know what I'm on that could be the underlying cause of this, since nothing has changed (compound or routine wise) prior to this situation presenting itself out of nowhere Friday morning..

Sorry above paragraph doesn't quite make sense, so:
*Crippling (literally) muscle pump/cramping in front of shins, calves, hamstrings, glutes, and lower back
*Been on blast for 3 weeks as of today - 350mg/wk Test E; 420mg/wk Tren A; 420mg/wk Masteron P; 40mg/ED Dianabol; 12.5mg/ED Aromasin
*Nothing has changed recently to cause such a sudden and severe problem as this, that I can think of at least. The above dosages have been consistent since day 1.
*Simply being mobile will trigger this cramping. I actually had to stop and take a breather on the way back to work after getting my coffee this morning....the cafe is about 100m away. This is concerning.
*Haven't injured myself as far as I can tell. Did a decent leg session on the Wednesday, but didn't have any pains etc until the Friday morning.
*cramping doesn't appear to be triggered by anything specific. Sitting in the car driving to work will piss it off.
*when cramping, my posture goes to complete shit as I can feel my hammies pulling my pelvis down while my lower back tries to compensate.
*also when cramping, my hammies dead set feel like solid concrete. Fucking RIDICULOUS pump from absolutely nothing.

Currently supplementing a few different things - EHP Labs Buzz (pre-workout, not taking it doesn't make an immediate difference); beta-alanine; L-taurine; electrolyte blend; BCAA+glutamine+HICA

It's bad enough that I'd consider ditching the entire blast just to stop the pain. Almost lost my voice on Friday/Saturday from screaming profanities at the top of my voice while I drove, just in an attempt to deal with the pain.
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It's the Dianabol. For some, orals tend to cause painful muscle pumps. Get get them terribly from Halodrol, Alpha M1, and M1T.

My advice would be to use Taurine like nolys suggested and to drink water. Stay hydrated.

Also raise you Aromasin dose to 15mg and dose EOD. Dosing ED might be aggravating your pumps by drying you out to much. The half life is sufficient for EOD dosing without any hormone fluctuations.
 
I've only got Aromasin in 25mg tablets which I just bite in half and take half ED :( so not much room to play with dosing there unfortunately. I took my dbol on an empty stomach as usual this morning, but waited until just after I'd begun my workout (general push session). After like 20 minutes I started to notice a significant increase in muscle pump along with the painful back pump rearing up. By the time I'd finished my session and hit the shower, was pretty much back to being unable to stand without pain.

I think I'll try taking the dbol as late in the day as I can manage and see if that helps out. I'm also making a conscious effort to drink more water (like extra shakes etc to get over how bland that shit is), along with loading up on the taurine and electrolytes.
 
Took the dbol this morning after workout, and not on a completely empty stomach (ate about 2 hours prior). Still had very minor pump/cramping on some movements, but otherwise a million times better than the last few days - particular since today was pull movements again :)

The 5g+ of taurine I downed before I even got the gym might've helped too though lol, but either way this morning was sooooo much better.
 
I'm almost done with the dimethazine. Thank god. I upped to 45mg/day and the shit is killing my appetite even worse. Plus my piss is brown in the morning and I drink probably a good liter of water during the night. Been on dimethazine for going on 6 weeks though so maybe body is telling me something lol.
 
trozzle said:
Took the dbol this morning after workout, and not on a completely empty stomach (ate about 2 hours prior). Still had very minor pump/cramping on some movements, but otherwise a million times better than the last few days - particular since today was pull movements again :)

The 5g+ of taurine I downed before I even got the gym might've helped too though lol, but either way this morning was sooooo much better.
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glad to see that worked out for you
 
Serotonin101 said:
I'm almost done with the dimethazine. Thank god. I upped to 45mg/day and the shit is killing my appetite even worse. Plus my piss is brown in the morning and I drink probably a good liter of water during the night. Been on dimethazine for going on 6 weeks though so maybe body is telling me something lol.
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You might want to come off the Dymethazine. If you piss is brown in the morning despite drinking a liter of water during the night it's time for a break from an oral or orals. Brown urine and oral steroids (or any drug for that matter that resists breakdown by the liver) means some kind of liver ailment.
 
Yo Guido could you respond or anyone else to my superdrol thread? Really want to take this shit but if its anything like I mentioned in the thread I won't be able to start using...

Mothers day today, pregnant gf not happy thay I'm going out to watch football... Shit happens, not every year Liverpool genuinely have a chance to win the league...
 
Despite popular (and slightly ignorant) belief, Sunday refeed isn't as enjoyable as it should be. I'm gonna pop. Also these DOMS are ridiculous...guess I finally gave my back a proper hammering yesterday :)
 
Also congratulations goes to Precore for designing the fucking WORST foot plate/rest/whatever the flying fuck you wanna call it for their incline leg press. As a direct result of the piss poor design angles, I have now gone and fucked something in my sacrum. Thanks a lot you useless cunts, did you forget the research part of your R&D?
 
Have any of you guys tried high doses(150-200mg) of Proviron? After being on 100mg for 5 weeks, I feel there's room to go even higher. I've been on a Test/Proviron cycle. If I wanted, I could go upto 200mg for the rest of the 14 week cycle. Just pondering if it's worth going any higher.
 
Possibly pants splitting boners maybe? Or prostate problems and hair shedding. And probably extra dryness.
 
AlmostFamous said:
Have any of you guys tried high doses(150-200mg) of Proviron? After being on 100mg for 5 weeks, I feel there's room to go even higher. I've been on a Test/Proviron cycle. If I wanted, I could go upto 200mg for the rest of the 14 week cycle. Just pondering if it's worth going any higher.
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Anything higher than 150mg isn't worth it, and this is coming from the experiences of bodybuilders who run grams of gear a day.
 
AlmostFamous said:
Have any of you guys tried high doses(150-200mg) of Proviron? After being on 100mg for 5 weeks, I feel there's room to go even higher. I've been on a Test/Proviron cycle. If I wanted, I could go upto 200mg for the rest of the 14 week cycle. Just pondering if it's worth going any higher.
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Why go so high..? What are you expecting from the Proviron as far as benefits..

One would imagine that mesterolone as a DHT derivative would be a perfect drug to enhance strength and add small but completely lean gains to the frame. Unfortunately there is a control mechanism for DHT in the human body. When levels get too high, the 3-alpha hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase enzyme converts it to a mostly inactive compound known as 3-alpha (5-alpha-androstan-3alpha,17beta-diol).. . It can equally convert back to DHT by way of the same enzyme when low levels of DHT are detected. But it means that unless you use ridiculously high amounts, most of what is administered is quite useless at that level at the androgen receptor in muscle tissue and thus mesterolone is not particularly suited, if at all, to promote muscle hypertrophy.

Proviron (masteron not so much) will displace test from SHBG, but because test is easily metabolized (and DHT even easier) the yield won't be as great as many think. That's the same reason SHBG blockade was never an efficient way of naturally boosting test either. The larger amount of free test, acutely, could lead to even more SHBG being produced. Also don't forget that SHBG also binds estradiol, and whatever goes for test (although to a slightly lesser degree) also goes for estradiol when blocking SHBG.

Proviron delivers very few side-effects.. But because of the high level of deactivation and pre-destination in the system (albumin, SHBG, 3bHSD, aromatase) quite a lot of it, if not all simply never reaches the androgen receptor where it would cause anabolic effects, but also side-effects. So its relatively safe.??? Doses between 25 and 250 mg per day are used with no adverse effects. 50 mg per day is usually sufficient to be effective, so going higher really isn't necessary.
 
Genetic Freak said:
Why go so high..? What are you expecting from the Proviron as far as benefits..
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I'm quite happy with 100mg. I've yet to have a day where I feel that lethargic high estrogen feeling. And I just feel really good in general. Also, I'm very please with the visual aspect so far. Not quite what I received from Masteron, but that wasn't the sole reason why I wanted to try Proviron. I was just curious if higher doses of Proviron will enhance the visual look even further.
 
I've read interesting reports of national level powerlifters using it occasionally, though unsure what the differences are as I've never looked into it or tried it myself. Funnily, one guy in particular was still recovering from a pectoral injury (I think it was), so was forced to bench reverse grip leading up to a comp...unbeknown to him, he was able to press more reverse grip than conventional lol
 
Interesting. I'm working through a wrist injury right now, and still cannot do anything really with an underhand grip for my right hand. So I'm limited to reverse curls pretty much for biceps. And I've had to switch two of my back exercises from underhand to overhand grip. We'll see how this plays out. And ya, I couldn't even do reverse-grip bench with my injury, was just curious what the group's thoughts were.
 
Goddamn Caber. Know I should dose it in the evening, but I've just got this thing against taking any kind of oral NOT on an empty stomach.....now I can barely keep my eyes open lol. Drowsiness side never hit me this hard before....though I did sleep like a brick last night for once, so perhaps I just overslept.

Meh, libido is well and truly on its way up....which is handy given I'm defs in with that girl I had lunch with a while back....yew!

Now where's Neo when we need some lulzy sex life stories...
 
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