Harm Reduction ⫸Should I Try HEROIN?⫷

[Erikmen]

If you're at least 'content' with your current reality, then I would not suggest heroin. Why break something that's not broken?

I totally agree with you.

I think certain drugs that I could randomly mention like Crack, Heroin has a faster fall due to its intensiveness, availability and costs.

 

[Mcohall]

I personally would never think this would actually be a topic due to the fact that heroin in almost every case destroys someones life in the process of using.

So my overall answer would be no, mainly I can't justify sticking a needle in my body to get high.

Be safe for those whom do!

 

[Erikmen]

Be safe and RIP for those who died trying or keep relapsing on heroin.

 

[Diethyl_]

im thinking of getting 500 or 250mg of darknet heroin. It will be my first time using H. I will be sniffing, i also have little tolerance to opiates. i've used oxy a few times, maybe 20-30 thats it though. also how euphoric is H, would morphine be better?

 

[Erikmen]

Well, you could see the previous 1 286 posts before yours and see how wise it is to try.
Yes, I think you know that morphine is a safer and a better choice...

 

[Diethyl_]

lol grim. You seem sensitized.

 

[BeatTheSickness]

Man I really think people have a misperception of what the experience is like.
Yes it feels good.
No its not as big of an experience as say, LSD/Mushrooms.
No you should not try it.
Yes you will get addicted if you like opiates.
Yes it will ruin your life in more ways than I can describe. Physically, emotionally, and financially. Often legally, too.
No it is not possible to "just do a little" here and there or before work.

 

[Dopesmart]

Man I really think people have a misperception of what the experience is like.
Yes it feels good.
No its not as big of an experience as say, LSD/Mushrooms.
No you should not try it.
Yes you will get addicted if you like opiates.
Yes it will ruin your life in more ways than I can describe. Physically, emotionally, and financially. Often legally, too.
No it is not possible to "just do a little" here and there or before work.

Good advice here, I was a dope addict, started on pills, ended shooting dope, still takin sub, wish I never took opiates it really fucked my life up and I'm stuck on sub and scared to get off of it it's no great life...only good part is it gave me character haha

 

[JoEhJoEh]

Hello,

I can just give an answer to myself when it comes to the question of this thread: yes. For me yes. It was good that I tried it, just once, about half a year ago. Insufflated.

It was a great feeling. But now I know, and it's good like that. Fortunately there is no craving at all.

People are different, so what works for me doesn't have to work for anybody else, so be careful.

JoEhJoEh

 

[Erikmen]

Man I really think people have a misperception of what the experience is like.
Yes it feels good.
No its not as big of an experience as say, LSD/Mushrooms.
No you should not try it.
Yes you will get addicted if you like opiates.
Yes it will ruin your life in more ways than I can describe. Physically, emotionally, and financially. Often legally, too.
No it is not possible to "just do a little" here and there or before work.

Perfect BTS!
The thing is I strongly feel OP knows exactly about the facts above.
He's already into opiates. And I find it difficult to see that he's so naïve about the subject.

But your answer is appropriate, obvious questions deserve clear and obvious statements.
Well said. Thanks!
Erik

 

[Canniboy95]

And I promise that this is.

Mostly anonymously people are grazing over this thread and changing their mind without leaving a trace of evidence they were even here.
But they were.

Totally 100% true it took me a few days of hearing opinions and reading threads I was at the edge of reason with my self and was about to smoke H if it wasn't for the people on here sharing ( not that my heavy opioid pill habbit makes me better or worse than anyone i just Appreciate what you guys do here all the way

 

[Erikmen]

I'm very happy to hear that!

 

[winchester123]

I occasionally buy myself a 0.25 bag of H3. I love the smell and the taste as it smokes off the foil, then the lovely warm cocoon it puts you in for a few hours. (Strictly treat time, once every few weeks. I can see it being seriously addictive. IMO, it shits on every other opiate.)

 

[Erikmen]

That's the issue with heroin. This feeling that makes us feel so peaceful normally turns us to very unpeaceful Souls around the streets. Just like vampires. I get that, totally. But after going through the damages. Hell no. Wouldn't wish it for my worst enemy.

I was looking to an old documentary about Kurt Cobain and when I see that kid, the shy bright teenager full of energy, life. So naïve. I really felt sorry for his mom and friends. Not all of them, but he was a fine person, simple.

 

[Canniboy95]

Hello all still a BL noob so still picking up your traditions so please forgive if this is wrong to ask here or has been covered.
any way I have been in debates with myself for months now about doing heroin for the first time or not and have decided to give in and try it as I'm going think about if for the rest of my life ethier way and to be honest it makes anxious in a way knowing that there may be this dream like wonderful state Iv been sayn no too or It could be this big scary devil drug that will kill my sole ect ect(unlikely)

So from the age of 10 years old iv been in to drugs(soft stuff pinching a joint out my dads ashtray to smoke or burning hiz bar of dope sayn I was just savin u time honest pmsl odd cigarettes can of beer between 3 lol) and then 16 tried it all from meth to coke(exept H)then soon discovered the joy of addition throu benzos mostly diazepam the reason I say joy of addition is because I loved it sounds bad and maybe a little selfish but I LOVED it with a passion knowing there was this substanse that no matter who or what annoyed/scared or upset me there was this thing to wipe it all away from the inside out I guess you can say the pros always weighed the cons for me.
so anyway sorry for going on just as it may be relevant after I came off this diazepam habbit cold turkey 40-50+pills per day(40 X 5mg =200mg ect) with a codeine and Temazepam or two to get a cocktail going I thought at the time f**k this s**t never again as I think this will kill me anyway lasted not long befour i wanted back in so went on a dihydrocodeine habbit rising from 2-3 a day to now popping 30+ pills in one dose 30 X 30mg =300 and so on and no matter how buzzed I get and I have had some amazing times with DHC but with this new found love of opiate and opioid high and the withdraws being a walk in the park(not kidding found it very easy even at this stage compared to my benzo withdrawal (forgot to mention my benzo addition lasted 10-12 months (current DHC addiction 12-14 months)

So some advice from H users would be very much appreciated

(1). i know I said DHC withdrawl is easy compared to dhc but I still hate it all the same can I take heroin instead of my DHC dose to stop withdrawals with them being both from the opiate/opioid family.

(2).what is most likely to be in my first experience using H example is a paranoid experience like cocaine? Or a blissful nirvana like valium? Also if this is just say a stronger version of codiene or DHC (only opiates experienced) will it be like my first few times getting high on these as it was amazing compared to now lol.

(3). my ROA is going to be smoking what amount should I use? I have a 5 X 0.2 gram doses I think that's like 2 and a half or 5 £10 baggiez here in Scotland UK but not 100% haha so should I start off with maybe a quarter of a 0.2(so 500mgs) or should I even do a half quarter baggie(250mg???) and don't know what else for now but feel free to add for this ass I won't know the hassle until I try it this weekend.

One more thing just if anyone has a say on this but since day one I mean since benzo number 1 my family friends ect knew I was clearly on something slurring world white foam on lips stotting about you know what I mean but since day 1 of my opiate addiction not one person has I clue and I'm on it every day at some point gave it away one time when I was itching like a crazy person lol but blamed the washing powder/detergent haha is it possible I can get away with heroin also(as in my personality I don't or have never stole. lied f**d anyone over always pay what I owe when I owe it and don't spend what I can't offers like food/rent essentials ya know I know people will say wait till u get a H habbit but u can trust my will power on this the minute I can't maintain my well being I give all my worthless stuff cigarettes.pills any stuff thts for fun on not gonna harm my health without it uregardless of with drawls or does it depend on the person like I can control all opiates so far and I cant take a any bezo what do ever without is showing so in theory I can take H and not show it too?

21 year old male healthy and fit for a druggie had liver check ups nomal body weight don't know if this comes to play but iv wrote this much....

Also I appreciate previous concerns and warnings about doing heroin but you guys of all people must understand my feeling about this I have accepted and embraced the fact I am I drug addict an astronaut can love and celebrate about going to the moon i m in no way being so for my self here I mean in the sense as the astronaut comes home and smiles about where he's been the out of this worlds experience eventually getting sad and depressed on the fact that it is and will always be the past well that's how I am but I could have this experience as much as I like so my choice is live longish 50-60 at a push and happy with drugs or live a little longer with out em wich is not living in my currently very intoxicated opinion

 

[Erikmen]

It's not like Valium. Valium is a benzodiazepine a lot of people use. Doctors, teachers, people who are getting married and need to calm down.

Heroin is not like Valium at all. At some point few hours later you may have a glimpse of relaxation that could be compared to Valium - just like the good sleep after a Coke binge.

It seems you have make up your mind. You could use a safer opiate, something pharmaceutical with similar effects. Some pharmaceuticals are not so different from Heroin after 5 minutes, depending on how much you take and which one you choose.

I think people notice Heroin. They will obviously see something is not right. It's not a pleasant view from whoever is outside. Google it and see yourself. You'll get the picture. Some people vomit and can't hardly light a cigarette.
We think we are cool, but the color of your skin changes, some people get skin face problem that looks like acne for those who don't know. You'll lose weight.

If you are going to do this remember that the quantity should not be more than a head of a match. If you're going to shoot make sure you don't hit an artery or miss a vein. Have someone you can trust by your side.

 

[Canniboy95]

Thank you and no I would never EVER shoot anything as I have a total fear of needles no matter how qualified the hands are holding it and also if I liked it too much such as the benzo I would keep it rare and I mean once maybe twice a month I love vallium more than anything that's why I don't allow myself to take if I have 109 vallium in my hand I won't go mad as I know how sneaky these can be...also take regular pain killer breaks too when my tolerance reaches more than 300mg or over for 5 days 1.5+ grams I would actually say and hope I'm and not just being in denial here but I'm more of a drug enthusiast than addict as I feel more sympathetic towards full blown addict's what ever there crutch may be as I believe they are really in pain physically or I believe more mentally in most cases trying to cover guilt. Anger. Shame. trauma and so on but as with me I couldn't ask for a better childhood or better parents I had and stuff have the works would not change them for anything I really an happy with or with out drugs but I really really like geting messed up not coke or speed as have zero interest in uppers anymore would swap a pound of the best coke for a zopiclone or Temazepam (downer) that heavy headed super stone you get where the worst movie ever is suddenly the best thing you ever seen and WOW this melted chocolate bar in my picked wow luckiest person ever right here....drugs just makes all the little unenjoyable things suddenly expode with joy then at same time the world feels like it's in your side 100% like every thing from the little breeze on on back wen its too hote or when the bakery has one left of your favourite cakes just amazed how much it they can light up such a small meaning less thing a person who dosent get this feeling example working job car house house insurance family holiday I get the same feeling of happiness and reward multiple times a day if I like and with the smallest itty bitty thing i mean how can i say no really? When you have cottonmouth bad and go to make a cup of tea and find a little sachet of hot chocolate behind the suger and it literly feels if not identical better then the 6 grand I won playing online roulette last week

 

[Erikmen]

That's now my friend you can't say that and you know you can't. But I trust you'll be responsible. That's all we can do at this point. Hope.

Hope that you come to realize that this is not like living with the idea that you've seen your soulmate and did not stop to say hi.

This is something you'll most likely regret very much and months or years from now you will tell people that you should never had done that thinking that you would live for the rest of your life imagining how would use heroin spoiled your dreams.

Can you hear yourself outloud?.. I have to use heroin otherwise I can't live with myself wondering how that feeling must have felt. Come on. You are about to become a zombie and I'm now respectfully wondering how old you are.

Heroin causes severe addiction. It's risky to use, you'll put in danger your life and you'll be a statistic by then.
I really wish you'd wake up from this crazy fantazy and realizes that this is like a child that has been denied a candy.

I know this must be annoying and ultra conservative to hear but that's all I got. My experience, a broken heart, a broken family. Indefinite dreams that I could not realize, health problems and addiction even though I've quit over a year ago, but it took a decade for me to accomplish that. The people I left behind. My parents.

Is that what you want for you?? If you are here wondering, that's why you know this is not a good idea or else you wouldn't even bother.

Listen to you heart, rationalize it if you must so that you can try to see it from the outside. You don't need our authorization but you are concerned.

Whatever you do I hope you do it with your 'eyes opened'. Don't fantasize that this is okay and needle is not an option. You don't know that. There's no way you could know that.

Come on, do something bold and courageous and forget that for sometime. See yourself coming from the future and changing this as we often dream we could. This is your chance.

 

[roxi2873]

All I can say is, if you think you're not going to end up like the millions of heroin addicts who also thought they wouldn't let it ruin their lives, you're wrong. No matter what limitations you put on yourself, saying things like I'll never stick a needle in my arm...eventually, you will. There's probably nothing about you any different than the millions of others people who swore they would never let it get to that point. There's nothing glamorous about sitting on the toilet in a gas station trying to shoot up real quick before someone realizes what you're doing. There's nothing glamorous at all about heroin. The first time I snorted heroin, even after years of snorting 30s and other drugs, I lost any respect for myself I had left. It was the one thing I promised myself I wouldn't do. And I fucking did it anyway... without even a second thought. Literally, the first opportunity I had to try it, I did it. After that, within a year I had lost every dollar, every asset, 90% of the people I loved wanted nothing to do with me. I can't even remember the last time I actually felt high after using it. It's so unfulfilling anymore. I might get some relief for an hour or two, but it's never going to be like that first time again. Eventually there will be days where you legitimately think to yourself that the best thing you can do for yourself and for the few people you have left that still care about you, is blowing your fucking brains out. Eventually you feel so worthless that you're just an anchor drowning everyone around you that cares. When suicide becomes the option that makes the most sense, you might realize how wrong you were. I know I did. And honestly, I was to a point where I wanted to stop for a week just so I could say I died sober...because the drug had so much control over me it wouldn't even let me just kill myself. But I couldn't even do that. If this is the kind of shit you want to go through, because you're convinced you're different then there's no saving you anyway. I may not know everything, but I know there's nothing about you that's so special you think you can play Russian roulette with the most powerful drug on earth and win. Do yourself a favor, and just don't. Chances are, I'll be dead in the next few years even though I'm only 30 years old...because I tried heroin once. If someone sees this and decides against it, maybe my struggle wasn't without vain.
-Ryan

 

[Canniboy95]

Hi again I not sure if this was direct at me or not but I this the story above definitely needs to be read by anyone on that thinks it's cool or even necessary to start a journey down the road of abusing any kind of mind altering substance. it also show's how nice humans can be when people like the ones on here are blindly trying to not only help but save lives in most cases.

However I would add in that all drugs are relevant to Ryan's post I don't know if mentioned but I'm 21 in a few weeks and I get where this guy is coming from and I agree with the fact the I am the same that is why added the abundance of reasons for doing this as I feel a lot of guilt more than you know when I here your stories. And i dont want to be deterd in anyway from drugs i just want to be as save as possible while doing so also I don't want to be treated as someone who can or can't be saved. Because if theres one thing i have learned in the past few years of addiction is that i WANT to NOT WANT drugs if you know what I mean.

but the truth is without looking forward to that drug induced reward hit at the end of a hard day/week and saying no not for me not this time drugs. Well its not something a drug addicts mind can comprehend or maybe that's just me.

Perhaps since my first benzo experience or even cannbis stone I was ruined and did not even know it or maybe like animals some of us can control our demon's better than others but the fact that drugs both don't scare and exite me well ethier way this tells me that i am drug addict.
maybe at some point i will be lucky enough to grow out of this.(hopefully)
but until then it just seems that and theres no changing the fact that getting high at night beats the time i spent where I would sit in my house and not go out for days on end to bored to wake up and go out too full of anger and anxiety to sleep & just generally heavily depressed.(I must say if I never knew what a proper (DRUG high) was I would never felt like this I was just as happy without them I think it's just an easier route to that happiness its synthetic!

Where as now I need tell my self I have drugs when I go home at or at nights as its still my problem so I keep the states I get into away from family ect but I need my drug time or there is no sociable me anymore....

But my point is whether I get clean tomorrow or spend the next decade taking overdoses and begging ect. Well I guess il quote the above post its a game of Russian roulette its a total gamble but I guess it's just what us drug addicts are willing to risk.......

Be happy with weed is what I would say you can have great times on weed with tiny consequence. But do not venture for higher drugs and I mean anything because I know it's said too often but once you take that leap no matter how long you abstain from it afterwards you will hurt every single minute of the day as you do nothing accept to find try something that takes your mind of off getting another pointless hit even if its for a spit second or two.

there's are my thoughts right now I wrote the stuff last night high as a cloud not actually read it back yet as I forgot most of it but my guess is something good about drugs

I woke up from an opiate induced sleep 6 hours ago already I'm bored depressed I actually just ate dinner so I'm gonna wait an hour before taking my dose of 20 + painkillers just so i will feel some relief. from what!? I don't know I haven't bothered to make up an excuse for so long ........