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Harm Reduction ⫸Should I Try HEROIN?⫷

reality is.. NO ONE SHOULD TRY HEROIN!

there is no such thing as just TRYING heroin, but you end up DOING heroin, and you do it daily. and it eventually catches up and takes over your life. once you start doing heroin you will surly have NO MONEY, no life, no friends, and find yourself trapped.. trapped where!? who knows. some trapped on the streets, in a detox, sober house, somewhere you probably do not want to be. I am SOMEHOW still affording my apartment but that is only because I stopped using daily since starting bupe/sub and I am able to get by. but trust me, I've lost my past apartments, girlfriends, family, etc, all because I choose dope over living a normal life.

although I still use here and there, I would suggest to ANYONE who is THINKING OF GIVING IT A TRY.. DO NOT TRY THIS SHIT! that is exactly what it is, SHIT! it is killing far too many people in the Boston area and its a god damn shame to see so many people I grew up w/ DROP week after week after week. its just fucking insane.
 
I waited until I was a middle age middle class widow before I tried shooting dope but my pain meds weren't helping so I decided to try IVing herion right before my 60th birthday My pain meds had quit working and I had been on them all so I got this bright idea that I would shoot up smack Well it didn't work for my pain as well as my meds it cost me a fortune it was nothing even close to having any quality control lol and getting the right ammt so I wouldn't get sick was a nightmare . All I wanted to do was to sleep all day so then I felt I needed some meth to perk me up well that isn't working out very well my dealer just got busted and I don't have another connectiontion I'm going to start to get very ill fairly soon so my advice to all the heroin newbees is just don't start with the dope There are plenty of other things that you can have a great experience with that won't totally screw up your life I'm sure I will be on the way to detox soon So do your self a favor and give the junk a pass!!! I had a bit of a crack run a few years ago and I have to say I enjoyed that MUCH more that this shit and when my connection for that was busted it really wasn't a problem Just didn't have quit as much get up and go if you know what I mean
 
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Just thought I'd throw in my experience.

i made it to the ripe age of 33 without an addiction to anything with a brief tryst with weed when I was 18/19. This of course gave me the false bravado to think I can handle just a little bit without possibly becoming addicted. So I'm out partying with my girlfriend at roughly 3am and she sees an old friend who is carrying a sizable bag of heroin and all the intent in the world on sharing it, so I figure what the hell, I've been good my whole life, why not give it a go.

That first night was magical. No way around it. We both stayed up all night talking, fucking, having a wonderfully delirious night. The next few days, nothing more happened, but it was stuck in my mind, I wanted that feeling again. So we decide to dangerously look on Craigslist for a possible hookup with "party favors" then narrowing it down by email. Finally we found our guy, he comes over with a point bag, we do our lines, the magic happens again. From then on we promise ourselves we will control it and only buy a certain amount to keep from being addicted.

I won't drag out a repetitive story everyone has heard before. But I was a 33 year old successful executive clearing 150 grand a year. As of writing this I've been fired from two jobs for the first time in my life, I've sold everything I own to pay minimal bills and keep us supplied. I've run out of things to sell, I have no job, and we've been going through the worst withdrawals of my life and I still owe my dealer a grand. I had to turn off my phone because I don't have the strength to deal with him between vomiting, diarrhea and constantly sneezing, wiping the sweat from my body, shaking, kicking my legs and not being able to sleep. Nothing smells the same, I don't want to touch anything, walking to the other room is a chore only driven by my need to constantly shit. Every time I hydrate, my body uses it to shit some more. I haven't eaten for days out of fear of vomiting some more.

This all happened in a short window of a couple years. 33 years clean, never tempted, and my life has fallen apart. I've conned money from friends who would do anything for me because they never had a reason to distrust me and felt they owed me for various reasons, and I mean thousands of dollars . I've convinced family to shell out thousands to help us survive and secretly supply our habit. This next part deserves it's own paragraph so it's not missed.

I've considered suicide for the first time in my life to escape it all, I might have done it had my now wife not found me in front of the shattered window I broke in frustration and anger, with a piece of glass over my wrist.

Were going to get clean together, we will make it through, I feel that now, but it's an uphill climb, I've put myself into a world of shit over the stretch of this addiction, and I really crave normalcy.

i crave going out without worrying about my next fix. I crave waking up everyday without worrying about my next score. I crave seeing family without worrying if we have enough drugs to keep us straight for the visit.

The best thing to take away. You will not get that magical night back. It only comes that first night. You truly are chasing the dragon for the rest, and you'll never catch him, short of stopping for periods of time inbetween.

It's not worth it. I don't care how strong you are. I've had a powerful will power in every aspect of my life, and this almost destroyed me completely in a very short time. Some people beat the odds, they are the minority. The odds are that you are not in this minority, so don't risk it.

My heart goes out to you bro. I have been there so many times. :(
 
in Boston its called dope. thats it, lol

dont think I ever heard it called anything but dope. we dont say "black" because its NEVER black here and its always powder, whether silver, brown, while, whatever,but NOT BLACK.. EVER!

I say brown town, since thats my name and all, lol

haha here in Illinois too...or diesel. lmao. I still say H though just to piss my connect off. He goes all ghetto on me when I ask him if he has any H.
 
I´m not totally sure, but after doing RC opioids for some time (mostly AH-7921 and butyr-fentanyl, but also U-47700) I found heroin to be way worse regarding how fast and (relatively) strong negative rebound effects set in. With the fent, it might be due to the short duration that the body has enough time to recover, but the AH lasts way over 24h and nevertheless is much easier to handle for me.

But I tend to have atypical reactions to drugs by nature and additionally I was on memantine (a nmda / glutamate antagonist that is quite strong in alleviating tolerance buildup and withdrawals) most of the time I took opioids. That way, they are not that different to handle than any other drug ... I really wonder if it´s genetical, psychical or both ...

Also since tolerance did not build as usual, I experienced much less of chasing a phantom - of course, I also dosed on the lower end, having huge respect of the overdose potential, which never brought me that breakthrough euphoria that nothing can compare with.. no nodding or delusions, but ... nevertheless, it´s the essence of a drug. Once one knows how an opioid feels, one will always be tempted to use one from time to time ... even more so when it also works as expected, being completely satisfying with repeated use ...

I know what opiods can and will do to many. A relative of mine died some years ago tragically but not unexpected after long-time IV use due to thrombosis.. At the same time, I can´t fully understand what makes people to fall from opioids, despite much more real negatives than they had for me. I´m not new to opioids.. having used several ones for weeks and months over the last years, and would still say I could handle them more or less carefully if we had a more sane legislation ...
 
Well, you need to self reflect and analyze when you think about/consider taking ANY drug. You need to ask yourself if you have an addictive personality, are depressed, or have any personal factors both mentally and physically, making you prone to addiction (genetics too). I've known people that have what it takes to only try heroin once or dabble lightly here and there. I myself started out dabbling but already knowing that I have had psychological problems (ADHD and depression) As well as genetic predisposition to develop drug dependence, well that's where I fucked up. I simply said fuck it, I'm young, and if I fuck up I have time to get better if I make this a habit.
It took me some time to open up to the idea because all you ever hear about dope is horror stories, because most of the population who tries, I eventually tried it because my boyfriend explained how it works and promised to guide me through it and took care of me basically. I liked it, and since I had leisure money, would go out and buy it sometimes (not too regularly) if I wanted to unwind and if I felt I earned downtime. Eventually my boyfriend and I developed an emotional connection with the dope because it was our thing and we'd have a great time when we were loaded together. Since money and a source wasn't a problem it was easier to get stuck on this shit. Sure enough it took me about a month to kick. And after i started feeling withdrawals if I didn't smoke I felt irritable, chills, weakness and no desire to do anything except lay in bed. I ended up just smoking so I didn't feel like shit. I didn't even want it for that euphoric passionate experience anymore since it ruined our relationship (since withdrawls and extended use does make one develop emotional and psycological flaws when not using) , which in a way worked in my favor because the psycological desire to use is the hardest to overcome for most, since severe physical withdrawls lasts about 3-7 days depending of factors on your use and your body itself. I lost my apartment because I was spending all my money on dope for us, and when I moved back in with my parents I got caught up when they found it. Since they had the financial means and they begged me to stop and I had already the decision to stop once and for all, I went to a doctor and got prescribed suboxone films to ease withdrawal and craving for the drug. Thing is those are habit forming usually so I just took small doses only when i needed it. But fact of the matter is, if any part of you is weak willed or has any dangerous risk factors into developing addiction, then DON'T FUCKING DO IT.
If you decide to try it, find a way to cruise through it and make sure you have no way of getting it, and keep regular users of any drug cut out completely from your life for a while at least.
Another thing, do not ever and I say EVER shoot up. That first Rush you get within the first 10 seconds is what people get stuck on. I never shot up heroin but tried it with meth and after that I knew I couldn't do it again nor teach myself to do it because I'd get stuck. Well point being, analyze yourself and don't be in denial, if you have any of those weaknesses then don't try it. Simply because it's so powerful, hence the reason why people sink into addiction so quickly and easily. Good luck!
 
To Meatcleaver

You my friend hit it right over the head when you observed that you will never get that magical feeling of the rush on that first wonderful night that you shot up that dope, but many will chase it to their graves and that is why the answer to the question is Don't try heroin!!!!!
 
tried chasing it once when i was about 21 but glad to say never liked that much. Was drinking in pub at time and someone said wanna try it and I was a bit drug stupid at that age just discovered good stuff not smack so we went to his house paid a wee bit cash and it was crap,done nothing it might have been any powder and prob was to be honest and if i was getting bumped out of smack then I'm glad.
 
only if you can afford to buy a lifetime supply up front so you don't have to deal with junkies. also, only if you know the purity and have all doses carefully measured out and are insured you will never get caught.

in other words...no. i wouldn't recommend it.

that being said, Heroin is wonderful. i wish i could use it but i can't anymore. got off it 3 years ago after many awful years living a very uncool lifestyle.
 
The simple answer to this ridiculous question is NO!

If you have never tried Heroin, dont and also DONT put it on your list of things to do before yo go out.

TRUST ME
ITS NOT WORTH IT!!!!!!

and dont give me that o I just sniff it shit, we all, well most started out sniffing too, it always leads to the needle...ALWAYS

Asking should I try Heroin?

Is basically asking should I put a half loaded gun to my head and pull the trigger a few sniffs...lol get it yet. ......


FUCKKK wise up wtf is happening to this world man 2015,

Goodluck to all in the struggle,
Peace N Love to all

Try to think positive! Always Be creative Be you!

There is too many things, good things, shit Amazing things you could be doing instead of heroin, plus it cost more then an arm and a leg.

And then there are only a few future paths you have once you become a H user, they are as follows:
Death, jail, rehab, suboxone, and or methadone.

Now think back to that should I try heroin question
lol

Take a sniff
Terrible

Good luck to all
 
I honestly dont understand how people even debate this anymore. Heroin has ruined my life completely. I have been shooting heroin for about 15 years now and would kill to go back and slap myself in the face before I ever tried it the first time. Anything in my life has been lost to heroin. Luckily I still have my family and I have only managed to go to jail once but I have lost everything from great jobs, appartments, the love of my life, my self respect....everything. To anyone who wants to try it dont. Like BostonBrown said there is no trying to there is only doing it day after day. Out of hundreds and hundreds of people I know that tried it I only know of 1 person who didnt get physically addicted and now is not doing it and has a good life, I envy this guy. But im telling you that you will most likely and will not be that .001% that can do it once and still have a happy life. I was on Methadone for 7 years and still did the shit almost daily, God I wish I could go back. And still I will do the same thing today...
 
I honestly dont understand how people even debate this anymore. Heroin has ruined my life completely. I have been shooting heroin for about 15 years now and would kill to go back and slap myself in the face before I ever tried it the first time. Anything in my life has been lost to heroin. Luckily I still have my family and I have only managed to go to jail once but I have lost everything from great jobs, appartments, the love of my life, my self respect....everything. To anyone who wants to try it dont. Like BostonBrown said there is no trying to there is only doing it day after day. Out of hundreds and hundreds of people I know that tried it I only know of 1 person who didnt get physically addicted and now is not doing it and has a good life, I envy this guy. But im telling you that you will most likely and will not be that .001% that can do it once and still have a happy life. I was on Methadone for 7 years and still did the shit almost daily, God I wish I could go back. And still I will do the same thing today...

THIS RIGHT HERE!

I have been fucking BROKE for over 10yrs cuz of heroin; I should have over 30k saved and in the bank w/ no worries and living a good life but instead I have fucking ZERO and have to take pills daily in order to not have withdrawals which will be puking, shitting, hurting, sweating and many other terrible things.

heroin has truly RUINED MY FUCKING LIFE!
 
THIS RIGHT HERE!

I have been fucking BROKE for over 10yrs cuz of heroin; I should have over 30k saved and in the bank w/ no worries and living a good life but instead I have fucking ZERO and have to take pills daily in order to not have withdrawals which will be puking, shitting, hurting, sweating and many other terrible things.

heroin has truly RUINED MY FUCKING LIFE!

That too bro, how could I forget the money..... I would literally have my own nice house, a brand new car, and shit loads saved in the bank. But what do I got? Fucked up arms and no money, none at all, every single dime goes towards that fucking powder that I love and hate so much... Fuck man I wish we could go visit high schools or something and just tel the horror stories, or I wish I could record my daily life and show it to people thinking about trying it and they would see what a bullshit broken record life it is, same fucking misery every fucking day. If I could do anything positive with my life, I would atleast like others to learn and stay away from this hell if my experiences could do anything good.
 
Heroin will ruin a lot of people's lives. I tried heroin because I was in a lot of emotional pain. I wasn't even addicted to painkillers before trying heroin. Though I was using hydrocodone from time to time. Like once a month or 2. But within a year and a half. I went from snorting it to shooting it. I sold stuff, became dirty, I spent ALL my money on bundles. I used drugs before my first heroin use. Crystal, Coke, Crack and used to drink a lot. But as soon as I used H, I almost overnight, dropped everything else, and fell in love with it. It was cheap, I would snort half a bag and be in heaven. Of course the monkey on my back kept growing and growing. I lost a lot of jobs and friends because of my use. Society, even other drug users (Coke and crystal) view heroin as the lowest of the low. When in fact, a drug is a drug, doesn't matter what it is. Actually, someone who snorts Heroin can survive far longer than people who smoke/inject coke, crystal, smoke crack, do pcp. Heroin is sort of cleaner or safer for the body. Of course i'm talking about UNCUT heroin, which turns into morphine after 10 minutes of use. I don't regret ever picking up heroin, because in a way, it stopped me from being an alcoholic. But I just changed one bad thing for another. But with Heroin vs. alcohol. People can actually enjoy hanging out with me if i don't do too much and it's apparent that I'm high. When I used to drink, I would always or 95% of the time go over board. Get super drunk, get into fights with people in my house. I kept getting kicked out of my house. But when I started using Heroin, I would only get kicked out if I stole money or other items to support my habit (Which you will do if you start using heroin). So if someone ever asked me, "Should I try heroin, if I'm curious?". I would say NO!. Watch a documentary about it. Watch many documentaries on Youtube about it. There's a message in all of them. The end is never pretty. Time and time again, You will see for yourself. Thank god that after 6 years of use, I'm now in a Methadone clinic and have stopped. Or I take breaks. Sometimes if I miss my clinic because I want to, if i miss 2 or more days, I'll get a bundle or a few bags. But it was nothing like before. And I only use today if I have money or someone hooks me up. But yeah, DON'T EVER DO HEROIN! Sure, you can play with fire sometimes, but people who play with fire usually, sooner or later, get burned.
 
I wish this thread could be more widely accessible...in my opinion, this could be an asset to make informed decisions regarding their drug use. Personally, if I had seen this 10 years ago, I may never have blindly stumbled through the gauntlet of opiate addiction. I think the most powerful influence on a drug user such as myself is first hand experience. I've never valued what medical professionals or addiction specialists had to say...the only thing I would listen to is a fellow junkie. This shit isn't a game man, and this thread is an encyclopedia of heroin's effects and results.

No.
you should not try heroin.
I fully support free decision making, but trying heroin will be the last decision you freely make.
Dope will govern every second of every day of the rest of your life.
It is possible to make it out alive, but that demon will stick around until the day you die.

I hope I could help. God knows we all need help.

Always,

TT
 
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]Just thought I'd throw in my experience.

i made it to the ripe age of 33 without an addiction to anything with a brief tryst with weed when I was 18/19. This of course gave me the false bravado to think I can handle just a little bit without possibly becoming addicted. So I'm out partying with my girlfriend at roughly 3am and she sees an old friend who is carrying a sizable bag of heroin and all the intent in the world on sharing it, so I figure what the hell, I've been good my whole life, why not give it a go.

That first night was magical. No way around it. We both stayed up all night talking, fucking, having a wonderfully delirious night. The next few days, nothing more happened, but it was stuck in my mind, I wanted that feeling again. So we decide to dangerously look on Craigslist for a possible hookup with "party favors" then narrowing it down by email. Finally we found our guy, he comes over with a point bag, we do our lines, the magic happens again. From then on we promise ourselves we will control it and only buy a certain amount to keep from being addicted.

I won't drag out a repetitive story everyone has heard before. But I was a 33 year old successful executive clearing 150 grand a year. As of writing this I've been fired from two jobs for the first time in my life, I've sold everything I own to pay minimal bills and keep us supplied. I've run out of things to sell, I have no job, and we've been going through the worst withdrawals of my life and I still owe my dealer a grand. I had to turn off my phone because I don't have the strength to deal with him between vomiting, diarrhea and constantly sneezing, wiping the sweat from my body, shaking, kicking my legs and not being able to sleep. Nothing smells the same, I don't want to touch anything, walking to the other room is a chore only driven by my need to constantly shit. Every time I hydrate, my body uses it to shit some more. I haven't eaten for days out of fear of vomiting some more.

This all happened in a short window of a couple years. 33 years clean, never tempted, and my life has fallen apart. I've conned money from friends who would do anything for me because they never had a reason to distrust me and felt they owed me for various reasons, and I mean thousands of dollars . I've convinced family to shell out thousands to help us survive and secretly supply our habit. This next part deserves it's own paragraph so it's not missed.

I've considered suicide for the first time in my life to escape it all, I might have done it had my now wife not found me in front of the shattered window I broke in frustration and anger, with a piece of glass over my wrist.

Were going to get clean together, we will make it through, I feel that now, but it's an uphill climb, I've put myself into a world of shit over the stretch of this addiction, and I really crave normalcy.

i crave going out without worrying about my next fix. I crave waking up everyday without worrying about my next score. I crave seeing family without worrying if we have enough drugs to keep us straight for the visit.

The best thing to take away. You will not get that magical night back. It only comes that first night. You truly are chasing the dragon for the rest, and you'll never catch him, short of stopping for periods of time inbetween.

It's not worth it. I don't care how strong you are. I've had a powerful will power in every aspect of my life, and this almost destroyed me completely in a very short time. Some people beat the odds, they are the minority. The odds are that you are not in this minority, so don't risk it.[/FONT]

Sounds like you've already experienced enough success professionally to warrant any positive turnaround in your life at this point. May the monkey forever be on your back, good to hear your life went to shite, haha!
 
Omg lol this thread is still going ,,,
lol mods please close.
This thread serves no purpose anymore.

Here's the easiest thing to do, do NOT ever try it, because just as stated above there is no one time, one time turns into every otherday then that tirns tp everyday.
Then you find yourself in the ghetto scoring dope twice a day sometimes, and then if you dont get clean and or on some maintenance drug (suboxone) (methadone) you will either die, end up in prison, or be that guy on the sode of the road with a sign....

I am sooo glad to be off heroin now, unfortunately i am still on suboxone but only 4mgs a day, and i plan on dropping down soon.

But get help people its 2015 they pretty much are just giving insurance to anyone and everyone, once you obtain that you go to suboxone.com enter your zip code and bammmmmmm tons of suboxone doctors pick your best bet or w.e one accepts you as a new patient, and you will be golden.

so good luck, and NEVER TRY HEROIN,
if you already have then follow the steps above to get help.

peace everyone
im out
 
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