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Harm Reduction ⫸Should I Try HEROIN?⫷

What made you want to use heroin at 11? How did you find heroin on money, or in a tip jar at your job?

1st answer: DARE class in 6th grade. I got juvenile arthritis that year and I felt extremely alienated from everyone. In my childish mind, it was the most extreme way of being "different" (as if).

2nd answer: we still aren't totally sure that's what it was. It was a lighy brown opiate that had been put in a folded dollar to be broken up into finer powder... It was def an opiate, and looked a whole lot like H, so it could have been some other type of opiate--idk. That was in November.
 
Ruined my life. Family relationship. My marriage. Wasted away for what?..... A high that I can't keep and continued to chase .... Time wastedwith mmy daughter.... Money wasted.... Evictions....rehab... Constant craving.... Life undone.... Hardship all the time.... Constant failure. Its a terrible addiction n life... Not worth it.

Since I never log in, while I am, I may aswell quote this for truth.
So, so, so, fucking true.
I have done things I never ever would have done, I dont even know quite why or what I was thinking. I am completely and utterly ashamed and embarrassed of my actions and the choices I have made.
I dont really want to go on.
While im at it though, I might as well add, Gabapentin really helped me quit.
 
*Quick Question*

I was just wondering when my wife and I can start taking our suboxone maintenance again.

For the last 3 months we have been taking our prescribed suboxone. We take about 4-5mgs daily.

Well yesterday we went to the hood, and I got about 30$ worth of boy. We did it all she snorts, I IV.

Now I never really got high off it, just enjoyed the rush a few times, I could tell I had some bupe still on my receptors blocking the H. She reported to feeling nothing but just *Normal*

Now my question when can we start taking our bupe, like now (its been about 14-15hrs) or should
I wait the full 24hrs to avoid pcwd. Precipitated withdrawl. Or since ive had bupe and probably still have some on my receptors, can I take my suboxone N8 strip, I dont have subutex either
im prescribed the strips....


Please Help ASAP
Thank you
bunches :)
 
^ There's no set number of hours. It's based on when you go into withdrawals. You need to wait till you feel withdrawal symptoms to take the bupe or risk precipitated w/d. I've had times where I was good to go in 8-12 hours other times I've waited 24 & precipitated.
Basically wait till you have at least minor if not the beginnings of full on w/d's.

IE. some minor leg cramps, yawning, stomach upset, runny nose, might be considered minor & good enough, really depends on the person. For me my minor symptoms usually start with leg cramps, yawning & stomach upset.
Proceeding to hardcore stomach cramping, horrid bone/muscle aches, urge for bowel movements, passing out but not sleeping (if you know what I mean? hard to describe, might be because I'm on other meds as well), for me the 2nd set of symptoms would be full on w/d's.

I've precipitated by waiting for minor w/d's but never precipitated if I waited for full on w/d's. I know it's hard to due but it beats the hell out of precipitating yourself & regretting the fuck out of it.
Just to let you know this is from past experience & lots of it, ;) but I'm sure my memory serves me right on this one.

I haven't used sub's in a long time as I'm in Pain Management now. Well I was, we'll see Monday if I still am, due to some fucked up shit that they called a suicide attempt but seeing as I'm still getting pain meds, just at lower doses from the Hospital that discharged me, I should be fine.
Not sure how Pneumonia complications & taking some tylenol at a low enough dose that NAC easily reversed it with no damage is a suicide attempt but that's irrelevant to your question just me bitching. :!
 
Thanks for the little information, like you I have been through all this before, I just never was on suboxone maintenance then used H then get back on suboxone maintenance.

We waited about 20-21 hrs. and were completely fine. Thanks for the help though, sorry I didnt post on here what happend I did in other forums
 
heroin is not worth its culture. you can't get it without at least a few moments involvement, and that can be all it takes to fuck up your life. even at its finest, additional risks are the only thing distinguishing it from top tier pharms.

I did try real heroin once but it was from a dollar in the tip jar at work.
damn.
 
i think you can try everything, but you dont have to ;)
if you think you are a person with a strong spirit and you really want to do it and you really know you can take it just one time and then never again, i think, why not?
but first think about it, why do you want to do that? what will you get ou of it?
is this experience really worth the risk to be dependent to heroine?
iself would never take heroine because i heard too much fucked up stories about it.. i mean people actuaöly die because of heroine.. !
please think about and dont destroy your life ;)
 
** Listen the best way I can put this is the truth and this should be the closer of this **

(I'll let the mods decide)


Listen you should NEVER EVER try heroin for the first time. Dont listen to anyone but yourself fuck, what anyone thinks and fuck any peers or anyone trying to put that on you or any one.


Heroin is a terrible drug thst will ruin your life quick.
I know because it happened to me and millions of other people.

I was 21 going to college driving my own car doing great, then got mixed up with the wrong people. Long story short I built up a nasty 5 year heroin addiction im still battling today. I have to take suboxone just to be normal because of heroin, ive lost everything been to jail numerous times now have 6 felonies, and am living at my mother's house with my beautiful wife, the one and only amazing beautiful special thing I have left.
And im 26 now, sooooo far behind because of drug addiction, please stay away from heroin, and the hood. Do good be something in life. DO NOT BE just another statistic drug addict struggling.
Life is to short for using heroin its garage, thats the truth coming from someone who truely knows


SO IF YOU HAVEN ALREADY TRIED HEROIN,
DO NOT EVER EVER TRY IT TRUST ME.

THANKS IM OUT
-James
 
I agree completely.. Weed can help free the mind, but opioids just really put your ambition to sleep. It starts out making you a bit more social but even that subsides quickly.
 
Should people sleep on train tracks? No, I wouldn't suggest that sort of behavior for most people. If you are going to do it anyway, that's a bad decision. If your still going to do it, don't. If for some reason you still want to try it... stop it. Bad thoughts, but if you decide to do it anyway be fucking safe. But don't do it because that is really really dumb and the odds of it ruining your life are better than the odds of you dying when you get hit on a motorcycle by a tractor trailer. Basically, don't do dumb things if at all possible... please...
 
Would I ever suggest that somebody try it, no.. But I have to admit, it's the best feeling I've ever had from a substance. Also, for whatever reason, I do not have an additive personality. I use drugs recreationally daily or weekly, but always in moderation. That is important. I have a rule that I only buy enough for one day, then I'm usually too busy to do it again for awhile. This works for me...
 
^^^^well that may work for you, but I know myself and others, would be quite different.


That is why I am currently on buprenorphine maintenance, because if I go use once...

1. I may possibly die (OD)

2. Also I am unable to use heroin recreational, and or here and there.

It is the only drug that does this too me, as you said due go the increase euphoric exp. You get with IVing good H.

BUTTTT.!!!!!?
What comes with that amazing feeling, just to me is not worth it. Life is too short to waste living the lifestyle of a H addict.


So I choose buprenorphine maintenance, because I am afraid of the old Klinik kuffs (methadone)

* I myself have looked into, and read many informative articles on methadone, and witnessed first hand because my mother is on MMT *


Methadone in my eyes is terrible but that is for a different thread, sorry to all


PEACE once again,
 
Yeah.. Everyone is so different. You have to know who you are, and what your true (involuntary) priorities are. I've read other posts from business owners who share such a strong desire to succeed that even if habits get out of control, they are determined to get free of the addition. It truly depends on WHO you are. My brother and I are total opposites. He can't keep a normal life anymore bc of the addition. It truly is RELIEF, and it why people from all walks of life do it.. But it can destroy your life and the lives of those who care about you.. I miss my brother.. And he won't respond to my texts tonight. We are each other best friends, but the addition impacts it everyday.
 
Yes, addiction is very impacting when your family members are struggling in front of you.

As I said before my mother is on MMT and it is a very sad sad sight.

She is a completely different person on the methadone, always nodding, always mad, never thinks she is wrong, nor will admit wrong even when I caught her buying a hand full of norcos the other day. If her clinic found out she'd be in trouble,but im not going to do tthat to my mom, whe she is taking about 100mgs a day
 
Heroin saved my life, then destroyed what was saved. Now i just exist alone and all that makes me content is the feel of heroin in my bloodstream. My legs are horribly scarred due to abscesses caused by not being able to find a vein anywhere in my bod. I get blood all over my sofa. I spend hours poking holes in myself looking for that one vein that will make it better then fall into a deep sedation only to wake and do it all again. Yea go ahead try it. It's great. ...
 
Yeah, opioids feel like you can't get that fucked off with them until you'e up shits creek and you realize you never had a fucking paddle to begin with.


Like Wylie Coyote running over the cliff, he doesn't realize or think he can fall.... until he looks down and realizes how high up he really is, and it may be a light-hearted analogy but if you think you were good at lying to yourself before, you have no idea what a smooth talker mu agonists can be (this post being meant for people who aren't familiar with opioids...).

Lmao so true! Man I truly didn't think I had a problem until I was injecting every day for weeks and finally looked at myself and realized I'd completely fucking got hooked, constantly rationalizing to myself that my usage was fine lol. What a joke, clean for 27 days today.
 
I believe every one in the beginning thinks it's manageable and others say as long as I don't inject..
The truth is that will happen in a matter of time. Know lots of people who did it only on weekends and said they were fine.
But not for too long though. Maybe a couple of months..and you start doing that more eventually etc, etc..
 
Heroin, is terrible.

And I know exactly what youcmean Erikmen, about people saying that and then end up ridin in the same car as you or on the same bus as you lol
mother fuckers just cant be real until there faced with reality.

But fuck heroin, dont ever use it if tou havent, ive lost 5 years of my life due to Heroin addiction :/

But thankfully now I am doing very well on buprenorphine maintenance.

8mgs daily currently.

4mgs in the a.m

4mgs in the p.m

soon to taper
 
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