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Harm Reduction ⫸Should I Try HEROIN?⫷

The first time I tried H I was already very tolerant to opiates. Idk if it was the dose or the fact it was the first time it was IVd or if it was just much better than other kinds but that was the best feeling I've ever had. At a pricetag of about $100. Needless to say, the second and third time I tried it I felt hardly nothing. I chose to not even go near that stuff again because 1) dealing with people who sell that stuff can get you in a really bad situation, or ripped off 2) I knew I'd never feel that high again 3) most importantly, I didn't want to land in JAIL. It's just too risky. For those who don't have a super high tolerance like I do, they could feel that high many times, but it very likely would lead to an addiction or some other bad consequence, including OD. I just say, stay away. All this stuff is evil. I became addicted to opiates at no fault of my own because my body was shattered from the neck down and lived in a hospital bed for months hooked up to a dilaudid pain pump. Never did I choose to use for the purpose of getting high, yet I still ended up with a huge dependence, tolerance, and worst off, chemical and emotional addiction. To those who haven't used it or are considering, I day this with the utmost care and love: please find Jesus and/or God and pray to him for strength to help you abstain from using. The hardest times of my life I would not have survived without my faith and lots of prayer. God bless you all and stay well :)
 
lokidoki said:
Being a norco addict, I've been getting more and more curious about heroin. I have a supply of 120 norcos a month and they're paid for, but I can't always get a refill right away and my tolerance is slowly building and thus I'm finding myself with no norco for weeks at time sometimes. I can't stand even a day without them. I've heard heroin is easily obtained and cheaper. But as someone who works in the medical industry, I've also seen people with some messed up arms that are broken almost totally open and filled with necrotic tissue from heroin use. But the addict in me is still curious about it because I love the opiate high that much. It's disturbing to say the least. This thread did cover many of the thoughts I had about it though. I'm sure if I'm having this hard of a time controlling my hydrocodone use, I'm not going to fair much better with heroin. I'll hold off on it.

Thanks.
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Once you use pure opiates that aren't full of shitty Tylenol, you experience the true high. I'd go through withdrawals if all I had was norco or Percocets due to my high tolerance. Yes you will feel the buzz from something stronger, but once you start taking those often you soon become dependent on those instead. I never got to start out with norcos or lortab or percocets because my accident was about the worst pain anyone alive would ever be able experience, and I didn't even have a tolerance to opiates at ALL but I was screaming in pain 24/7 until they put enough dilaudid in my IV. You are lucky to only need the norcos, just be really careful if you use stronger stuff please. You don't want to end up where I did I promise you!
 
Anyone considering this Question, is a fucking idiot!!!

This type of shit is disrespectful to us current, and or former addicts! !

Im currently on buprenorphine maintenance, and finally living, a normal, productive, successful life,I have a beautiful blonde hair blue eye wife.

But my point is all H will ever lead you is down, and fast and despite what you may say or think you will eventually pick up that needle, and that is and probably going to be the biggest struggle of my life day in day out.


When you ask that question, you dont realize what comes with that, being a shriveled up skeleton waitin on a runner while your shaking, gaging, dissociated with life, sick bent over sore, finally je arrives, and yesh you go get fixed for that second, but still have a lifetime to wear your going to have to get it daily.

Heroin is not a 1time use drug, it can be but generally if they already have an opiate addiction, they will love the H.


Its bad get clean its 2015, I dont want to hear shit.
You can get on buprenorphine maintenance if you want to.

Also you can get on methadone maintenance if you want to.
*But with this I would suggest for older people, methadone maintenance is a serious comitment.


Buprenorphine maintenance not so long term you set goals with buprenorphine maintenance and make them, drop levels w.e


BUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
**FORURE 100% TRUTH buprenorphine IS EASIER TO QUIT BY A LONG SHOT THEN METHADONE, AND HAVE MORE SUCCESS RATES, AS STAYING SOBER FOR GOOD!

~METHADONE SHOULD BE A LAST RESORT~
 
I just tried H for the first time last night. Here's my issue. I will not shoot it. Ever. So my only alternative is to sniff it, which I hate doing. I am not a sniffer. I can't handle the drip; it literally makes me throw up.

When I do coke, I don't sniff it. Because the drip will make me puke. What I do is, I just wet my pinky finger and take some and rub it on my gums or on the inside of my cheek. I like doing it that way because you still get high, but it's only the numbing happy part of the high and not the other part of the high (that many people love but I hate) where your heart beats in your chest and you feel like you wanna build a house.

So my question is, would it be possible to do with H the same thing I do with coke, which is just rub it on my gums instead of sniffing it? Would that even work? Does anyone know any other ways of doing it that don't involve sniffing or shooting?

Thanks.
 
Yes, it will still work, but the absorption rate is terrible. Also the taste is absolutely vile. I only will snort the H as well, but I love the drip. Infact, the drip is something I crave when I'm taking a break from doing it. I think there are some tips for it though.. Such as doing smaller quantities, more often. Also some people will tilt their head back and drop water droplets down each nostril to flush everything down after the drip starts...
 
after sourcing myself some nice blow Ive decided to tack on a quarter gram of some pure afghan #4 for giggles.

zero tolerance. i did develop a 500mg codeine a day habit though once. Oh well, yolo.

how long you think i can make it last? i figured id cook up .05, put in about half, wait a few. then put the rest. just tl be safe. but then again id be left qith bloodied remaining product and thats never good.

i know I'm definitely playing with fire. or a volcano, but.. for some reason i dont care
 
This is perfect, so accurate. I thought just because my friends were worse off and my decline was slower, I'd be ok. I wasn't. NNNOOT worth it.
 
Using heroin is a terrible, and completely stupid idea, NEVER USE HEROIN.

Hahahaha you people make me laugh, I said those same exact words when I started H, shit I sniffed for 1/2- 2 years I sniffed, and I am a former 5 year H addict, nobody thinks they will get to the needle stage but it happens, trust me I know. It happend to me, and I said everything you all said above, no matter what you keep fuckin with that H, you will eventually find out what the drug can really do and how really strong it is once you IV it.

please all I can say is never never everrrrr try heroin it is the devil and will eventually rob you of your life and soul.


Thankfully they have buprenorphine maintenance, because methadone is horrible, it was honestly made for Vietnam vets returning to the U.S. with heroin addictions, they didnt know what to do with them so they synthesized methadone for them, to keep them in line and off H overall. But nowadays some are state funded but still you eventually have to pay, but every county, state is different. Methadone is terrible if your still young 26 and under I consider in this group. Methadone is a lifelong commitment and very very hard to get off.

Thankfully they have developed many formulas of buprenorphine, so opiate addicts can use this now instead of methadone. Buprenorphine is a much better alternative then methadone. Talk to your doctor also to try to figure out the best decision for you, everyone is different.

Opiate addiction is reconized now as a true disease like diabetes, highblood pressure, etc.

There are many options out there if you are struggling with opiate addiction, if you need help PM me. But the Internet is full of information. Get some help I did, its worth it trust me fuck wasting all that money, buprenorphine maintenance saved me so much, including my life. Im so glad to be clean from H!!!!!! NEVER EVER TRY IF POSSIBLE WHICH IS ALWAYS AN OPTION, NO ONE CAN MAKE YOU DO ANYTHING. PM ME IF YOU NEED HELP


PEACE,
JAMES☆
 
Stop lumping everyone together.. I don't mind people hating H, but if you call all of its users needle users or soon to be needle users, then that's just a lie. Nobody should be using needles, period.. And if you can't control yourself, then don't use H. But don't lump everyone together. I've used it for years and know others who will never shoot H, it's a sniff only product just like all the others. You have to have limits...
 
serotonin-system said:
I really don't understand all the hate in this thread. Heroin has been a part of my life for years, and I can only say good things about it. Just stick to snorting/smoking it and you wont become addicted. Want the best feeling in your life ever? -----> Heroin is the answer. Granted, I've seen a few people fall but they were weak minded in the first place. If you have even an ounce of will-power you will be fine.

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That's actually not true at all unless you're different or you take long breaks in between. I was addicted to it and got dope sick just when I was sniffing and smoking it. The sick was just as bad when I banged it. You may be one of those rare people who just don't get addicted but let's not raise heroin on this pedestal as some all amazing drug.

Be real about the price that has to be paid eventually.
 
Newin419 said:
Stop lumping everyone together.. I don't mind people hating H, but if you call all of its users needle users or soon to be needle users, then that's just a lie. Nobody should be using needles, period.. And if you can't control yourself, then don't use H. But don't lump everyone together. I've used it for years and know others who will never shoot H, it's a sniff only product just like all the others. You have to have limits...
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That's easy for you to say. People like myself, who was born to a heroin addicted mother and raised by a heroin addict father until I was 2, have a propensity for addiction. Couple that with one of the most addictive drugs ever and the boundaries fade away.

I had boundaries. I said I'd never do heroin but I did. I said I'd NEVER smoke it, just sniff it. But, there I was doing foils every five minutes. Then I said I'd never be a nasty junkie and shoot it but I did. I said I'd never rob anyone but I did. I said I'd never steal from my family, but I did. You get the picture. Not everyone has those clear cut boundaries whether it's because they have a propensity for addiction or just reckless behavior in general.

Look, I love shooting dope too but don't be so cavalier about its effects.
 
Those aren't side effects of the drug.. That's my point, and the point of some other people posting on here. Don't get high everyday, life isn't meant to be lived like that, and its destructive to do so. So don't say that everyone who does dope is doomed to be a junkie. Some of us are disciplined about our drug use, and have other higher priorities. That's all I'm pointing out..
 
Bro you sound sooooo stupid, you let me know how disciplined you are in a few more years of use good luck to you, your gunna need it, you have a bad attitude, we are all just warning you..... we have all been there just sniffing staying disciplined, I used just like you, years later I was shooting heroin, its hard, to have discipline with H, keep messin with it you will find out, were not all on maintenance drigs for no reason

buprenorphine saved my life, im so glad to be on maintenance
 
Yeah, because it's the drug that made you stick a needle in your arm.. You sound stupid blaming the drug and not yourself. That's a decision you made. If people were more careful about their use of these chemicals made for entertainment, then maybe the gov wouldn't be so focused on stopping it's use. But instead people don't take responsibility for their behavior, they blame the drugs, their parents, etc.. and puncture their skin and let it take over their lives and destroy their families. Bad shit happens to people who let their hobbies/fetishes go too far, doesn't matter if you are talking about drug abusers, sex addicts, even people who would rather go fishing than go to work, etc.. Too much of anything isn't good and it has to be managed. Preach life balance all you want, but don't tell people to stay away because the drug will control your life. Stay away if you don't have self-control enough to say "no, I'm not using today."
 
Every drug-using population has a percentage of users who are addicted and a percentage users who are "casual". Heroin isn't any different in that respect, in fact most people who use heroin are "chippers", right? Whether they eventually become addicts, or how many eventually become completely addicted, that I don't know. But yeah, I know that many junkies swear that they intended to use casually when they first started out, but that doesn't really detract from the fact that some people actually have managed to balance heroin use and other obligations/goals/responsibilities etc in their lives...it's just difficult to do.

But as far as whether someone new to heroin should try it, I'd probably say no. The benefits of using heroin are outweighed by the risks of using heroin IMO.
 
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Here's the truth. Heroin doesn't affect everyone the same way. I agree completely that the risks DEFINITELY outweigh the rewards. Of course. But people are gonna do what people are gonna do. Having said that, I know people who have become addicted to H and died. I know people who have become such terrible junkies on H that they are probably going to die young. And I also know people who just do it once in a blue and have been doing so for years and aren't addicted to it at all. A couple of friends of mine do it sometimes to come down off coke. Neither of them are addicted. And they've been doing it for years. So some people are just different. This one girl I know does it maybe once or twice a year, on her birthday or something. Been doing it that way for over a decade. Never became addicted. Yet she had to go to rehab because she was doing so much coke she fucked up her nose. So different beats for different drummers.

What I wanna know is, someone said something earlier about smoking it. Something about foil? How do you do that? That sounds like a perfect way to avoid shooting/sniffing. Anyone have any info on this foil thing?

Thx
 
You place a small amount of heroin on foil, light the underside with a flame and "chase" it. You've never done that or seen someone do that?

I don't know what it's like where you live but around here the heroin is pretty much all tar, which is traditionally smoked although you can shoot it or snort it as well.
 
Nothing good comes from using heroin except its buzz it creates, but once you run out you want more, some can say no, others give in yes, but heroin is a horrible drug and has ruined millions of lives, and killed numbers we cant fathom.

So to ask should you try it, the answer is simple "NO"

There are a tons of a lot better drugs to be exp. With instead of heroin, all its going to do for firsttimers is throw up and feel that amazing opiateglow, but that comes with a price, a hefy price, Ive been through a lot, and eeveryone I know including myself said the same things you did, it may work for a very very select few, but you bet that ass your gunna most likely get caught up, and then jail, stealing, robbing, pissin your fam off, robvin family member, jail agail lol, just trust me it aint worth it, if you dont need opiates for a medical reason stay away from them trust me. It all leads to H and more and more H at w.e cost, congrats to the people who can use heroin and not become addicted, your special because almost everyone gets addicted.

Stay away trust me, or in 5 years you will be me theguy wwriting this trying to change lives and dumb thought processes
 
I tried heroin recently, having been intrigued by its legendary status for a long time. I ordered some really high quality stuff from the dark net. I hated it pretty much. The first day, I snorted a couple of 20mg lines, and ended up really itchy, irritable and eventually puked. I had to go to the chemist and get a packet of antihistamines and anti nausea pills which helped. I gave it a go for the next few days, also mixing with diazepam, but I just though it was so horrible. I flushed the rest of the gram away in the toilet, and for the next few days I felt like total shit. I'm glad I didn't enjoy my experiment trying heroin though.
 
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