Dealing with doctors is SUCH a pain these days, so much time gets wasted, pharmacy issues, some doctors you will be with for 8 months and still they think 50mg Vyvanse should be enough or 20mg adderall or whatever.
I mean on a clean tolerance 50mg of Vyvanse or 20mg of Adderall can be quite potent.
There are some that do give people 90-120mg adderall.. this is the type I want to find - not to actually use that much (it really is hard on the body above 60) but to be able to stock up for all those times when mishaps happen (doctor on vacation, nationwide shortage, etc)
Do you feel you'd take 60mg or less? Do you take like 40mg of meth orally each morning with no redosing?
I actually think I usually prefer pure dexamphetamine to meth, sometimes, but really both are better for different things. I feel I should have the choice to have both and more than enough supply and not be talked to and treated like a criminal or always being suspected etc.
I agree, I also enjoy dextroamphetamine more than dextromethamphetamine it seems easier on the body. I've heard others say the opposite so I suppose it's just subjective. Really they're nearly identical in action once in the brain... neurologists and pharmacologists simply will refer to both as amphetamine and not bother differentiating between the two chemicals unless there's a specific need for contrasting. Tbh 20mg of meth and 20mg of Adderall feel identical to me taken orally
These “professionals” that go to school for so long should be way better than they are. Maybe psychiatrists should be required to take one dose of a few different meds so they have a clue what it’s like - they have zero experience (usually) and read outdated ancient information.
I don't know, I don't mean to sound like a dick or be rude but you don't seem to have done a lot of professional research on these drugs. I'd be inclined to trust the professional in this circumstance by merit of their academic background alone unless the specific Doctor is provably incompetent. Yes some do exist that are not particularly open minded or academically curious post med school. But many do it because it's their life interest.
Anyways, orally meth works great a lot of the time but sometimes even the stuff that “feels clean” has made my blood pressure go WAY up. Even low dosages. Something ain’t right. Different batches do different things. I try to find the “least shitty batch” on the dark web. Also sometimes vendors will send one gram of excellent clean stuff but if you buy a bigger qty like 7g they send crap.
Oral methamphetamine will always feel superior theraputically than other ROAs which are designed to be recreational. Taking a 30mg oral dose allows it to slowly pass through the stomach lining and reach a gradual peak plasma concentration, whereas other ROAs are
virtually instantaneous and subjective effects tend to dissipate as quickly as they come on. This is desirable for the rush or norepinephrine which is processed into adrenaline, but isn't particularly optimized for benefiting the management of a user's ADHD symptoms and behaviors.
I got just one g of some recently and am taking it orally and the doses seem legit like desoxyn (but have never gotten ahold of that to try).
That's because Desoxyn is designed to be consumed orally, which supports my point above. You're simply observing what many users have discovered quickly or over some time; amphetamines are best wielded as a 'tool' when taken orally.
No wonder you feel symptoms of overdose nearing even fatigue; you're overdosing
Blood pressure measuring devices sometimes aren’t accurate- so I should try to find a medical-level properly calibrated one to buy.. I mean pharma Dexedrine doesn’t seem to mess with BP much and some studies show d-meth should be even less of a BP change.
Dextromethamphetamine will significantly raise your blood pressure especially if you're already predisposed to high blood pressure by age genetics or lifestyle. You will find that this will always be the case, and you may look into medications or habits that lower blood pressure.
It’s weird - I also would get these batches that WAY messed up my stomach even at just adhd oral doses. Like it would blow up like a balloon even get painful. Haven’t had that happen ever with Dexedrine.
This can happen depending on your stomach contents (eating before dosing), stress, and hydration as constipation from meth abuse dehydration is insanely commen and causes bloating and cramps
So I really would love to find a way to be able to get some dirty but still meth and clean it to REALLY clean, like 99%+ dextro methamphetamine.
You can dig into all sorts of chemical solutions for a variety of potential byproducts or suspected cutting agents but the most commonly used ones that show up in street samples will be cleansed with a proper anhydrous acetone wash. Unless you have reason to suspect an unusual and identifiable cutting agent, you're really taking shots blindfolded. Many drugs benign and harmful are in the form of acid salt crystals which have similar physical properties to meth; for example fentanyl citrate won't come out with acetone, and won't recrystalize separately in water. If you knew it was present you could run a distillation; but its rarely present and wouldn't be possible visually to determine so you are more likely running time consuming tedious purification methods for no gain.
Most meth in the USA is above 70% dextro purity at the bare minimum as this is required for lattices to bond over the lengths needed to form crystals.
Or.. try to get a desoxyn script. Docs that allow that seem more liberal with the daily dosages - I’ve heard of people getting 100mg a day, 120mg (narcolepsy guy who is like 80 years old, he says it’s working as good as the first day after like 30 years and he seems fine). Maybe even TINY amounts of levomethamphetamine really is the danger.. and maybe 1mg makes your BP jump up 30 points. Or maybe it’s some strange active synth byproducts.
You could try, and I admit subjectively it appears to me that Desoxyn prescriptions have been handed out more freely with the shortage on traditional amphetamine stimulants... but you risk drawing suspicion and distrust for a drug that really isn't likely to be more effective therapeutically than Dexedrine or Vyvanse.
Levomethamphetamine is a weaker central nervous system stimulant and weaker peripheral stimulant in human studies, it's presence likely isn't a danger at all compared to its right handed stereoisomer which packs a significantly more potent punch onto dopamine receptor and transporter systems, is significantly more neurotoxic, and a bit more cardiotoxic.
Racemic meth has shown at least twice in human studies to have no discernable subjective difference in effect to dextrometh proper. Even it's effect on heart rate and blood pressure was nearly identical to dextrometh. Levo meth in any amount isn't the culprit of any danger... maybe of having a shorter less driven and motivated rush if you were to take it alone... but nobody does that
I highly recommend you remain on oral doses, and go lower if you're having uncomfortable effects. Why not take less, feel happier, and have more tomorrow? If your BP reaction continues you worry you and you're unable to change your lifestyle or find a BP control med that works with your drug use; it's probably time to look into solutions less potent than amphetamines