Fuck where did I put my beakers and bunson burner
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Cocaine acetone washed coke is worse than before
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Feels easier to go to columbia at this point almost but I am not brilliant lol
Ethyl Acetate isn't 'as' available though.. Do you mind elaborating?
mL/g? Temperatures? Where to scource it from? Repeat only once? Why 24 hours?
where ya getting ethyl acetate around here w/o lab connections (Sigma Aldrich etc)
Making it yourself needs glacial acetic acid, sulfuric acid catalyst, ethanol 95% and magnesium sulfate/calcium sulfate drying agents
when a single trip can get ya acetone at hardware store, but ya right ethyl acetate can be used
we just need the leaves we got it from there
Lab grade. Amazon.
Following the same instructions as if it were acetone. Dried with or without hotplate 24-48 hours. Coke is less soluble in EA than acetone. Seems to be more effective IE final product seemed higher quality. Just be mindful of fumes and flammability. No filtering necessary. Just stir for a few min then wait 30 seconds and pour off the EA layer while the coke rests at the bottom. Repeat once or twice. I don't know how true this is but someone with a chemistry background commented that even the less soluble cuts will be suspended above the coke layer after the coke rests at the bottom. I've tested this by filtering the poured off layer with a bukner funnel (not necessary) and the material left on the filter seemed to be inert, compared to the dried product rested at the bottom.
Tried with acetone the traditional way with same material and final product seemed lower in quality and weighed more than the material processed with ethyl acetate.
Not well versed in chemistry this was just my observation. Friends had similar results. If anyone wants to chime in on why I am right or wrong go right ahead.youre right,
but theres no scientific hard set rules as to why youre right:
It comes down to 4 major factors, solubility, polarity, dispersion forces, and H-bonding
IMHO, acetone serves the same purpose as the ethyl acetate EXCEPT if water or high humidity is present
"Ethyl acetate and the European connection
Ethyl acetate is a polar aprotic solvent, which makes it suitable for dissolving cocaine base before processing it into cocaine hydrochloride. Record amounts of close to 50400 liters of ethyl acetate were seized in Europe in 2019 and 2020. The vast majority of these seizures occurred in the Netherlands (see Quantity of ethyl acetate seized in Europe)."
Its watched in large batches, and that amazon is only a middle man to the lab for lab grade Ethyl Acetate (besides nail polish remover)
Its legal in USA in all forms, however its a hazardous listed substance requiring extra shipping costs and theyre sure gonna place you on a watch list if you purchase multiple orders over time - why does this person need a drum of ethyl acetate
Itll work as a great cocaine base solvent, and ethyl acetate is not miscible with water (aceteone is,) so you would get two distinct layers if any water was involved
Uh oh. Welp maybe I dun goofed. I ordered a gallon (4 qts). But only for personal amounts obviously.
Def
of course of courseAcetone washing cocaine is an absolute waste of time. More often than not cuts and impurities resemble the cocaine in solubility to various solvents.
It’s A/B or nothing. Also cocaine can undergo hydrolysis VERY easily. Avoid prolonged contact with water in all steps, but especially when it’s a salt and soluble in water.
-GCif its cocaine HCl we're starting with:
POINT A:
we could take 35mL-ish of 28% lab grade NH4OH and dilute with water to 100mL
Regular hardware store ammonia would need evap-dried concentrated but azeotropic limit isnt a prob
around 3M-6M NH4OH
1. dissolve the coke-slats in water (just lil bit not too much, just enough to dissolve and cover)
This gets the cocaine into an aqueous phase and separates it from any water-insoluble impurities
2. add in that NH4OH from POINT A dropwise til pH is around 10 (not above 11 or possible weird reactions)
As the cocaine is converted to its neutral free base form, its solubility in water significantly decreases. Cocaine free base is much less soluble in water than its salt. Therefore, it will precipitate as paste or oily layer
NH4Cl remains in the water layer
3. Directly add ethyl acetate to the mixture after basification, without filtering
This extracts the cocaine free base from the aqueous layer (which now contains H4Cl and water-soluble impurities) into a clean organic solvent layer
4.This ethyl acetate layer containing the dissolved cocaine free base should be separated, washed with water (or brine) to remove any remaining aqueous impurities, and then dried over an anhydrous drying agent like Magnesium sulphate - epsom salt. However epsom salt has 7 parts water in its molecular makeup, so cook the epsom salt in over for few hours to bake off the water parts before using it as drying agent
5. A source of anhydrous HCl is added to the dried ethyl acetate solution of cocaine free base which forms coke-HCl salt
filter and dry
(the ammonium hydroxide method came from literature, and google of these compound and cocaine list many papers)
NOTE Baking sods pH sits close to the conjugates of cocaine's counter A/B parts, however, that means it would proceed (obviously we know how crack be done,) but the pH of the NH4OH creates a more through complete reaction