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What is wrong with the MDMA available today? - v2

vash445 said:

I came to the same conclusion about crystal Mamp. Despite appearing as large nearly pure crystals, which should be absolute rocket fuel, a large percentage of the “super lab” stuff from mexico does not deliver the Go that pure amp should… people might call it “sleepy m” or whatever… I have investigated cuts/adultrants thoroughly, as well as the chemistry of common manufacturing processes… note: ineffective amp tests pure on a immunoassay drug panel AND by GC-MS/LC-MS. This mystery has resisted explanation for years… I concluded it must be a polymorph… maybe the preferred chemistry of synthesis at an industrial scale has changed… If somebody knows better, please tell me what it is…
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So methamphetamine was largely made via reduction of ephedrine and/or pseudoephedrine to methamphetamine, typically either by a Birch reduction or via the Nagai Route involving red phosphorous and iodine. The latter had a conversion yield of ~75% and the former, ~92% if performed correctly. Mexican "cartel" super labs initially imported Ma Huang (the ephedra plant) from China and made meth via ephedrine reduction to meth after extracting ephedrine from Ma Huang. U.S. DEA started blocking these ships in the ocean, so the cartels change to a P-2-P route which produces racemic 50/50 d-to-l-isomer meth. Then they learned how to resolve the l-isomer to a new racemic blend, and they resolve again, repeat the cycle a few times for added purity, and then ship it.

The most common cut with today's superlab meth is l-isomer meth. Sometimes MSM is found, but it's not as common as some ppl seem to think it is, plus it's easily removed through pre-application to heat…
 
unodelacosa said:
So methamphetamine was largely made via reduction of ephedrine and/or pseudoephedrine to methamphetamine, typically either by a Birch reduction or via the Nagai Route involving red phosphorous and iodine. The latter had a conversion yield of ~75% and the former, ~92% if performed correctly. Mexican "cartel" super labs initially imported Ma Huang (the ephedra plant) from China and made meth via ephedrine reduction to meth after extracting ephedrine from Ma Huang. U.S. DEA started blocking these ships in the ocean, so the cartels change to a P-2-P route which produces racemic 50/50 d-to-l-isomer meth. Then they learned how to resolve the l-isomer to a new racemic blend, and they resolve again, repeat the cycle a few times for added purity, and then ship it.

The most common cut with today's superlab meth is l-isomer meth. Sometimes MSM is found, but it's not as common as some ppl seem to think it is, plus it's easily removed through pre-application to heat…
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This is real pharma supply though
 
Endovena said:
Si suppongo sia strano a pensarci
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Chiedo scusa; dovrei spiegarmi meglio. In inglese, il pronome per la seconda persona plurale è "you", lo stesso usato per la seconda persona singolare. Poiché ciò può creare ambiguità, gli americani chiariscono spesso il significato in vari modi: negli stati del Sud si usa frequentemente "you all" o "y'all", mentre nel Nord e in alcune zone della costa occidentale è più comune "you guys".

Nell'inglese vernacolare afroamericano, invece, "y'all" viene usato sia al Nord che al Sud. Dopotutto, anche in Italia le abitudini linguistiche non variano forse, per esempio, tra la Sicilia, Napoli e Roma? Trovo l'argomento piuttosto curioso, ma associo l'espressione "y'all" proprio a quel tipo di americano sciocco che ha votato per degli idioti come Donald Trump. Faccio fatica a perdonare loro un errore di giudizio così grave.
 
Endovena said:
Just had 120mg of Mdma and had a blast idk.
Saying this as someone that has overused MDMA as well as benzofurans and Mephedrone. love to all :P

edit: you should be able to see my location but it's Italy
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Was the come up intense or did you just fade into the high? Were you getting tingly rushes? Were you empathetic to the point you ask strangers (who are obviously on MDMA tol)
for cuddles?

When Mephedrone was fading out but still actually good and MD was making a comeback i still preferred mephedrone ( the beige Indian shards) the rush from every line was amazing, the controllability of just being able to have a line instead of taking MD and having to be in for a ride for the next 3-4 hours, good or back.

I remember taking a dose of MD and I got stuck in the uncomfortable come up phase for the whole time. It put me off MD for ages. I don’t know what happened. Obviously it was shit MD, and I probably took too much because I was trying to get passed the anxious come up but never happened, I was so glad when I was over! My friends wernt in “ecstasy”. No jaw swinging or dinner plate pupils. But the test kit indicated that it was MDxx
 
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