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Kratom MA kratom ban in effect on 8/28, only just found out today, broke and only 150g left or so. I am F U C K E D

I'm down to 1.4g as of today. I guess I might as well jump from here. I only did that redosing that one time 3 weeks ago where I ended up redosing with this exact amount. If I have to maybe bump up the Gabapentin a little bit for now, so be it. I've tapered off that stuff like 8 times, it's really not that hard. Once kratom is over with, Gabapentin is next, then Valium is next.
 
great job. yeah i feel it jobworthy getting off shit.
i dont find kratom is hard to kick personally but some have terrible wds; i dont know if its dosage or biology or something completely unknown.
posting this kinda content helps keep oneself in check, imo.
 
About 5 years. I nearly tapered off of it completely at times because cannabis is really the replacement and I'd get too high to remember it lol.
I know it won't be easy, but I was down to 5mg. I take 15-17.5mg a day, which is what I'd been taking around 4 years ago. I was pulled off cold turkey by my doctor in January 2025 and my GOD that was horrible. Shaking like crazy and shit, but I was still able to sleep somehow. At least I know how bad CT is and that I can honestly manage it. Kratom wds were worse for me, and I'd been taking 20-25mg of Valium at that time for awhile.

Tapered to 1.3g today. I'm going to be off of kratom before October, 100%.
 
chippermonk said:
Great! Just don't let that valium get out of hand
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It's more the Gabapentin that's gotten out of hand with me taking 2g a day. That's only 1 pill extra from my 1600mg but still. At least I'm not like, super megadosing it like I used to do (2800mg is crazy high to me). I hate the high from Gabapentin now, honestly. Weed just made all these pills seem totally useless once I did a ton of research into strains, terps, etc.

Myrcene and Linalool are the goat for anxiety, and shoutouts to Guaiol which is rarely that high, but it's really high in this Rocket Punch strain I've been smoking. It punches my anxiety away like GDP.
 
So I'm a bit concerned...

I'm down to exactly 1g and feel it like I'd feel 3g months ago. I know my tolerance is lower, but I'm also taking Fluconazole. I looked it up and it seems this potentiates opioids quite a bit. Does this like, set me back? Does it make my body think I'm taking more; or is this just... my tolerance is low enough to feel a gram? Even from day 1, this wouldn't be the case at all.
 
Well, I wanted to be off it at the end of the month, but I'm too much of a pussy to just CT even from 1g.
Tbh, and I hate this, but I've felt myself craving that feeling at times. I know I'll crave it even when I jump from 0.5g (the goal). My scale was fucked up, so it turned out I'd been taking usually 0.2g-0.3g more, but I'm at a flat 0.9 now.
 
Just man up and stop taking it. You're at like 1g a day. You'll be fine physically
 
I just finished a taper from a 40g/day habit. Took 3 weeks. I think a lot of people fear the withdrawals and make them out to be worse than they really are. Sure it sucks, but you need to feel the pain to successfully free yourself from dependency. At 1g/day, just suck it up and stop. 1 gram is nothing....
As far as the cravings, they'll lighten up with time, and after a few months, you can still use occasionally, as long as you do not allow yourself to fall back into daily use. The high is also way better without a tolerance. If you don't have the self-discipline, then stay away..
 
General alcazar said:
I just finished a taper from a 40g/day habit. Took 3 weeks.
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bravo
yes i find it forgiving when one must let it be. others find it excruciating. maybe its jumping off of high doses? idk. not a plan of action i would employ.

stopped several times for a few months and remembered why i started taking it. so on it. never been over 15gs a day but just took 4 1/2gs and thats super rare but just had a hearty breakfast (yeah, at 2pm).

so the tragic deaths of these teenagers are linked to kratom when i think we all know there is a synthetic involved somewhere. I feel for the familys as loss is a thing so....

yall try and be safe, heard?
word
peace
 
Electrum1 said:
Just man up and stop taking it. You're at like 1g a day. You'll be fine physically
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I agree - stretching it out is just prolonging the psychological reliance. If your goal is to stop, 1g is plenty low. Dropping to .5g/day is just stretching it out and keeping you just unsatisfied enough to let those cravings continue to mess with you (which is why you are probably getting those fantasies about high dose use). @BourbonMac - you have done a great job getting this far, just rip the band-aid off and be done with it. You're going to be way less uncomfortable than you think honestly.
 
Always taper. Cold turkey is too hard. Symptoms are pretty close to when I quit heroin, minus the vomiting and less muscle pain. The worst part of stopping is the PAWS, which I have yet to go through. Takes forever to go away…
 
Yeah, I tapered to 0.4g and just said fuck it.
I know I'll probably crave it sometimes on cold, dreary days or during hard times, but honestly... not really. I did catch myself thinking that earlier, but just didn't bother. Was more focused on picking up bud instead (what I crave the most).

I've been off for a couple days. Now to titrate the Gabapentin down from 2g... maybe take the Flexeril out. Trazodone is needed a bit for entirely different issues. I'd simply been taking an extra Gabapentin daily, I don't even wanna be on 1600mg. This shit is next on the list and then FINALLY, which I know I'll have to taper very carefully.

Diazepam. You literally do nothing but make it easier to sleep. You aren't fun or recreational and haven't been for years and neither has Gabapentin. Cannabis has become my #1 addiction now, and I'm glad that's true. They say it's bad to trade substances, but this in particular is just not. Let's be real.

So, good thing I have a QP (and feel like that's still not enough, lol).
 
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Well, shit. Most of the wds were just delayed, so this has been pretty rough lately, but I think I should be through with it soon.
Tossed out the rest of my kratom to prevent myself from doing anything stupid.
 
it'll get better after a few months. Don't know what I'll do with the 10 or so kg I have left over. I wish I had more self control, but every time I've tried to use occasionally, I end up blowing through 50 grams a day after a few months. Sucks having addiction issues.
 
I'm good now.
It's over.

Finally...
FINALLY.

Gabapentin is next on the chopping block. I had my dose reduced to 1200mg. I was taking 2g to sleep and deal with the wds, then that came back to bite me when Gabapentin wds were happening, but I've stabilized back to 1600mg. With 300s, I can take 1500mg some days, then drop to 1200. I've always found this one easy to taper off, but I usually was only prescribed 900mg (though, I often would take extra recreationally). I just find no value in that anymore. It's not fun.

Valium is gonna be a bit trickier, because I dialed that way the fuck up to deal with the Gabapentin shit. I am now out pretty much over the weekend thanks to my doctor not being in, so it's gonna be a shitty couple nights...

Either way, 2027 is going to be the true Cali Sober year I've had since... uh... 2027.
 
BourbonMac said:
I'm good now.
It's over.

Finally...
FINALLY.

Gabapentin is next on the chopping block. I had my dose reduced to 1200mg. I was taking 2g to sleep and deal with the wds, then that came back to bite me when Gabapentin wds were happening, but I've stabilized back to 1600mg. With 300s, I can take 1500mg some days, then drop to 1200. I've always found this one easy to taper off, but I usually was only prescribed 900mg (though, I often would take extra recreationally). I just find no value in that anymore. It's not fun.

Valium is gonna be a bit trickier, because I dialed that way the fuck up to deal with the Gabapentin shit. I am now out pretty much over the weekend thanks to my doctor not being in, so it's gonna be a shitty couple nights...

Either way, 2027 is going to be the true Cali Sober year I've had since... uh... 2027.
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Congrats dude, that's amazing. I always found gabapentin pretty easy to get off of even from high doses compared to many I've seen. Hopefully you have the same pleasure. I recently had to go 5 days without mine (1800), because Wal-Mart pharmacists are evil, and it was edgy but it wasn't so bad. Poor sleep, RLS of course but surprisingly alleviated by magnesium and compression socks, and general unease but not awful. I was, and am, on a ton of MIT though. And now trapped in MGM15 hell.

As for the Valium, been down that road big time, but I had to cold turkey it and a bunch of other shit in jail. Went insane. You'll fair far better than that. I still have PTSD from that shit.

I'd give anything to be in your shoes.
 
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