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This is something you don't want to miss out on, even better than LSD imho, more colorful, more euphoric, no anxiety, and more music enhancing, just as visual as LSD with hours of closed eye colored visions...the 2 stirring steps in chapter 5 can be reduced down from 20 minutes down to 10 minutes each, you must use tartaric acid only and only real HBWR seeds. I've taken this to 45 HBWR seeds converted to LSI, absolutely no side effects, no vasoconstriction experienced whatsoever. Felt identical in effects to 550mg Heavenly mescaline, absolutely no side effects, it's worked 100% each of the 12 times I've drank the Sacred brew over a 1 year period (taken once a month).
Pic of genuine real seeds used and the $8 tartaric acid used here, 3rd to last post: https://www.shaman-australis.com/fo...e-steps-a-more-euphoric-colorful-musical-lsd/
grahamhancock.com
from Post #144:
Vector (advanced chemist like myself):
This famous 1992 study from Austin demonstrated that adducts can form in the liver with tryptophan analogues (just like out LSA) and aldehydes alone, and in the case of ergoline alkaloids, alcohol is not even required, just the aldehyde alone in the liver with the indole alone via a simple condensation reaction: https://www.semanticscholar.org/pap...nrat/e04e99e70e3ee82d285cab1647a710b112253aa1 The aldehydes are attracted to the indole NH just like a magnet. Condensation reactions are extremely common in the liver. I find this a plus as how can "the man" make LSI illegal if it is forming in the liver? Perhaps nature planned it this way, knowing that the world laws would eventually target all known external LSD analogues. Nature is extremely clever.
I use only authentic HBWR from one supplier, you can see a pic of my seeds here, they are black and brown in color and all are slightly triangular. Yes, I get 400 seeds at a time, you must use only authentic HBWR seeds as they have 83% LSA (.04mg LSA per seed). There are lots of fake seeds out there that do not work. Pic of seeds: https://mycotopia.net/topic/112442-lsi-ancient-lsd-secret-of-the-eleusis-kykeon/page-3 If you use fake HBWR seeds, the procedure will not work. Post from 69ron on fake seeds vs real seeds: https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=10771 I use only authentic Argyreia Nervosa from Hawaii, A+ organic hawaiian baby woodrose seeds, I get 400 seeds per order, and have hid away literally thousands of the seeds, as the conversion of 45 seeds to LSI is exactly like 550mg of the heavenly mescaline. My all time favorite psychedelic. Zero side effects, zero vasoconstriction, zero sedation, zero nausea when my easy 3 step procedure is followed. Pic of $8 tartaric acid that worked great also on link. 3g nitrogen sealed Aojiru I get 46 packs to a box.
Yes Machine_Elf23, as matter of fact Red22 has done extensive research on how the Greeks could have used wood ash to eliminate the toxic alkaloids in purpurea but be left with non-toxic LSA (then convert to LSI brew). Other than that, there is the non-toxic claviceps paspali which infects barley grass and paspalum grass.
p.s. Last night (Friday) 5.1.26 I extracted the LSA from 45 HBWR seeds (210mg LSA residue scraped up from pyrex dish) in record time (45 minutes) and converted it to the 2oz LSI brew, drank at 3pm, and again had the time of my life! Felt exactly like 550mg mescaline, of all the trips of my life, this was again at the very top, stimulating just like mescaline for 10 hours, colored closed eye visions all night long, magical open eye visuals, extreme shifting of colors and textures with open eyes, heavenly music enhancement all night, intense diamond like shimmering of all visuals, felt exactly like 180ug LSD, but way more colorful, euphoric, and music enhancing than LSD. Super extreme euphoria all night long, in absolute heaven, pupils dilated all night, as I said earlier, all my life I've dreamed of having a field of bridgesii cactus, and dreams do come true, as this was the 13th time I've drank the sacred brew and experienced same dosage trip as 550mg high dose mescaline, absolutely incredible, have taken once a month now for 13 months...super intense healing all night long, I really needed last nights trip. Even at 1am in the morning when I closed my eyes I was still having way beyond 4k colored visions....I fell asleep at 2am.
1) Pic of genuine real HBWR A+ seeds used, 2) pic of $8 tartaric acid used (used in wine making and baking worldwide), 3) pic of the Aojiru barley 3g nitrogen sealed pack used (46 to a box):
https://mycotopia.net/topic/112442-lsi-ancient-lsd-secret-of-the-eleusis-kykeon/page-3?&p=1511731
Matthew Stahl: Cracking the 2,000-Year-Old Kykeon Mystery | Dennis McKenna on LSA & Soma
LSI, Ancient LSD, Secret of the Eleusis Kykeon and Vedic SOMA - Graham Hancock Official Website
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Interview going up soon, all links here: https://www.hipforums.com/forum/thr...-a-more-euphoric-colorful-musical-lsd.526544/
Dennis Mckenna contacted me, and I was on his show the Brainforest Cafe going up April 20, 2026, view on you tube: https://mckenna.academy/mka-podcast/
1.25.26 I was contacted by Graham Hancock and wrote a 7 page article on LSI for his website, which goes up around March or April of 2026: https://grahamhancock.com/
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See post #65 for latest: https://www.bluelight.org/community...e-eleusis-kykeon-and-vedic-soma.950819/page-4
Very Important updates:
1) The 2 stirring steps illustrated in Chapter 5 can be reduced from 20 minutes, to only 10 minutes each. It shortens the overall procedure time nearly in half.
2) and that DL tartaric acid powder or just "plain TARTARIC acid powder used in wine making available worldwide" (not citric acid) should be the only acid powder used that the author used over 5 years ago during the Eleusis kykeon and Vedic SOMA highly successful experiments, so it is very helpful to read about the progression of theoretical simulation steps updated later. Citric acid does not work, only tartaric acid powder works (available worldwide), as described in book.
Again, process only worked extremely well every time when using tartaric acid powder ONLY, not citric acid. It does not have to be DL tartaric acid but can be just plain tartaric acid powder used in wine making, available worldwide.
Illustrated is how the LSA from 25 HBWR seeds LSA converted to LSI felt exactly like 100ug LSD, and how 40 HBWR seeds LSA converted to LSI felt exactly like 170ug LSD or 550mg mescaline. The experience is noted as being even better than LSD imho as LSI incorporates an extra carbon molecule which makes it much more like mescaline than LSD, even more euphoric, colorful, and music enhancing than LSD.
Brian Muraresku's book "The Immorality Key" also relates directly to not only the author's book on LSI but also William Scott Shelley's book called "SOMA and the Indo-European Priesthood".
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VERY IMPORTANT: beware fake HBWR seeds.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5087370
The main difference between varieties is that the speciosa variety is used medicinally in ayurvedic medicine and the nervosa strain has high LSA alkaloid content. It makes little difference where the strains are grown, but most seed originating from India and Africa is of the speciosa variety and thus low in LSA. Do not use seeds from India, very low on LSA.
LOW LSA seeds will not work, just like morning glory seeds will not work as they have only 25% lsa and 75% clavine alkaloids.
Only authentic Authentic Argyreia Nervosa works as they are .04mg LSA per seed. They are black and brown in color and slightly triangular in shape.
https://mycotopia.net/uploads/monthly_03_2026/post-103666-0-45336800-1773154717.jpg
I use only authentic Argyreia Nervosa from Hawaii, A+ organic hawaiian baby woodrose seeds, I get 400 seeds per order, and have hid away literally thousands of the seeds, as the conversion of 40 seeds to LSI is exactly like 550mg of the heavenly mescaline. My all time favorite psychedelic.
Zero side effects, zero vasoconstriction, zero sedation, zero nausea when my easy 3 step procedure is followed.
Tartaric acid used in wine making and baking available worldwide (30mg on 1st stirring step) and 10mg on 2nd or last stirring step works perfectly, no difference from DL tartaric acid. I tripped my ass off on 40 seeds converted last sunday to LSI using plain tartaric acid I bought for $8 on line used in wine making, took only 55 minutes to prepare as illustrations show. Only two 10 minute stirring steps, and 35 minutes waiting during evaporation step. Most of time is spent waiting between the 3 simple steps.
Felt identical to 550mg mescaline, out of this world neon colors all night, extreme euphoria, hours of way beyond 4k closed eye colored visions, infinite music enhancement, a pleasant stimulation all the way from 3pm when drank till midnight when I fell asleep. Intense healing and profound spiritual insights, profound shifting of colors and textures, powerful tracers, far better than LSD imho, no choppiness to the visuals but rather the visuals are flowing, magical open eye visuals, swimming in euphoria all night. Same exact power as 160ug LSD.
Full blow up pic of the seeds I used (last post #36): https://mycotopia.net/topic/112442-lsi-ancient-lsd-secret-of-the-eleusis-kykeon/page-2
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UPDATE 2.1.26:
I tripped on 40 seed converted to LSI last night on Saturday!! unbelievable, so much better than LSD, exactly like 160ug of LSD but so much better!!!! just incredible !!!!!!!! you have to try this.
again, zero side effects, zero anxiety, had hours of closed eye colored visions, insane euphoria, music was so bad ass, colors out of this world, no anxiety, so freaking bad ass !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! my ultimate favorite. I drank the 60ml brew
at 3pm, and was still able to fall asleep exactly at midnight, way easier to fall asleep than after LSD.
This time I stirred for only 10 minutes for each of the 2 stirring steps (instead of 20 minutes each) and it worked just as well as before, it shortens the procedure time in half. Instructions in chapter 5, 3 super simple steps illustrated.
The LSA residue scraped up from the pyrex dish (40 seeds) LSA weighed 180mg, took this LSA residue and stirred it in 60ml water with the 3g of aojiru for only 10 minutes, and drank, just incredible.
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Update 2.14.26:
There are 13 aldehydes in young barley grass Z21 growth stage highest levels, all of these aldehydes can condense with LSA to form LSI, LSV, LSCr and 10 other Lysergamide cousin compounds which in combination can hit an extreme multitude of brain receptor sites that will rock your world. Propionaldehyde is just one example of the 13.
This Valentines night, Trippin on a 42 seeds weight is 3.5g, crushed weight = 3.5g, LSA extract residue scraped up from brownie dish = 189mg LSA extract residue (approximately .04mg per seed x 42 = 1.7mg LSA), converted to LSI + LSV + LSCr 2oz brew in record time, equivalent to 170ug LSD. 2oz brew is sitting in fridge, ready to drink at 3pm for an incredible Valentines date night. Zero side effects, zero anxiety.
She is even better than LSD imho: No anxiety, hours and hours of closed eye colored visions just like LSD, extreme mescaline like euphoria all night, just as colorful and music enhancing as mescaline, tracers as powerful as lightning strikes, whereas LSD can have choppy visuals, the visuals are flowing with LSI, continuous diamond like shimmering of all visuals, LSI is the most bad ass psychedelic equal to mescaline and Ayahuasca that I've ever had the pleasure of trying, yes, she is that good, and she is super cheap to make, with no nastiness to the 2oz brew, down in 2 gulps. Book distribution is averaging one book per day distributed worldwide, so people are going to eventually find out.
Update 2.15.26: The Valentines LSI trip last night was absolutely incredible, of all the trips of my life, this was at the very top, just as sacred, visual, euphoric, colorful, and music enhancing as any of my 550mg highest dose mescaline trips, I will always use this dose elixir brew, had the time of my life with wife, best valentines day ever.
42 seeds converted to LSI + LSV + LSCr (3 simple steps as shown with illustrations from chapter 5) just as bad ass as 550mg mescaline.
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Update 1.22.26: ---> The 2 stirring steps in the book can be reduced from 20 minutes, to only 10 minutes tops! how is that for fast? <--- see bottom of this post for more info.
This is not covered in Chapter 5 of the book, but I have taken the brew to as high as 40 seeds, converted the 40 seeds to the LSI brew stirred with the 3g of Aojiru young barley, and drank, and experienced a profound psychedelic trip just as powerful as 160ug of LSD.
.04mg LSA per HBWR seed x 40 seeds was the equivalent of 160ug of LSD. I had hours of colored closed eye visions, just incredible, and the music was beyond heavenly, and the euphoria was extreme. My all time favorite psychedelic just like a combination of ALD-52 (anxiety free version of LSD that is more colorful, euphoric & music enhancing) and mescaline at same time.
I am still in shock at the complete lack of side effects going up to 40 seeds converted to LSI, equivalent to 160ug LSD. I don't see any side effects occurring even going up to 50 seeds or 200ug LSD equivalent.
She is a perfect "ultimate psychedelic", the ancients knew their Sacred stuff.
Best part: It seems you can even take this up to 50 seed or 200ug LSD equivalent, and yet ZERO side effects: no nausea, no vasoconstriction, no cramping, just pure psychedelic bliss.
All of this is shown in Chapter 5 in 3 super simple steps. I found the 30mg of DL tartaric acid powder I used at high media: https://www.himediastore.com/dl-tartaric-acid-extra-pure-10626 or just use plain tartaric acid used in wine making avail worldwide (works just as well), but never use citric or any other acids as they will not work, must be tartaric only.
The 2 step super simple extraction shown in Chapter 5 is just used to separate the nausea causing seed pulp in the seeds from the pure LSA. The claviceps paspali ergot the Priest used in ancient Greece had no pulp, so they simply stirred the ergot which grew on the barley together.
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More details:
Everclear is 95% ethanol, so there is ZERO nausea once the 30ml everclear is evaporated from the brownie dish, and the LSA extract scraped up, this is all done in 3 simple steps from seeds to LSI. I have never ever experienced any nausea or any side effects whatsoever in any of my 7 highly successful experiments.
More info here, (the nausea causing seed mush is left behind at bottom of shot glass and thrown away, so there is zero nausea): please read entire thread: https://www.shaman-australis.com/fo...e-steps-a-more-euphoric-colorful-musical-lsd/ see post #1 on how nausea is 100% eliminated.
Yes, tartaric acid should be the only acid used (not citric acid) as we found out recently it participates in hydrogen bonding and is an important catalyst for the reaction that takes place during the two 10 minute stirring steps. As a matter of fact, I updated the book and ALL forums to reflect this very important update. The only error in the book is that I assumed citric acid could take the place of tartaric acid, so I wrote that it could possibly substitute, but again citric acid does not work. I used DL tartaric acid for all 7 very successful experiments, my all time favorite psychedelic, 40 seeds converted to LSI just as bad ass and exactly like 550mg heavenly mescaline, equivalent to 170ug LSD.
Plain tartaric acid (used in baking and wine making available worldwide) substitutes just fine for the DL tartaric acid I used in all my experiments in book and beyond, as I learned recently self experiment, absolutely no difference.
Ask google in AI, response is:
Chemical formula for tartaric acid is C4 H6 06, and according to AI it can indeed bond to the NH amide of LSA in acidic environments with stirring. Notice acetaldehyde has the formula of C2 H5 O which binds to the NH amide of LSA to form the psychedelic LSH or Lysergic Acid Hydroxyethylamide (see the molecular picture of LSH I posted in green color here):
TARTARIC ACID has many more carbons and hydrogens and oxygen molecules than acetaldehyde, perhaps explaining the incredible potency of my Kykeon and Vedic SOMA 2oz brew, this raises many questions and is actively being investigated. Recall mescaline has many oxygen molecules, perhaps explaining why my 40 HBWR seed converted to 2oz kykeon and SOMA brew feels identical to me as 550mg of the Heavenly mescaline, much more euphoric, colorful, and music enhancing than LSD.
Ask google in AI, response is:
As you can see, I started out low as cautionary approach with this new discovery over 5 years ago.
Tartaric acid is found in very high amounts in grapes. I read once the kykeon when drunk left a purple stain on beard and gown of priest drinking it...so this could explain if grapes were used in kykeon to provide the high levels of tartaric acid mixed with the LSA from the non toxic claviceps paspali that infects paspalum grass that grows adjacent to Eleusis in the famous Rarian plain then bingo: tartaric acid could indeed be bonding to the NH amide of LSA, explaining the incredible psychedelic potency of my 2oz brew.
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I am a lab chemist, 30 years experience, made a ground breaking discovery on how to make LSI from LSA in less than 1.5 hour, the experience with 25 HBWR seeds is even beyond that of 100ug of ALD-52
The 8 hour long VERY POTENT psychedelic experience is like a combination of ALD-52 (anxiety free version of LSD that is more colorful, euphoric & music enhancing) combined with mescaline, hits way more brain receptors than LSD.
She is an "ultimate psychedelic". In the distant past over a decade ago, took Ayahuasca over 140 times, zero nausea bridgesii cactus tea over 120 times, and LSD a couple hundred times, and yet find this LSI + LSV + LSC combo to be my absolute favorite.
LSI, Ancient LSD, Secret of the Eleusis Kykeon and Vedic SOMA
Contents
Preface: Questions and Answers
Chapter 1: The Shaman on the wall
Chapter 2: The Eleusinian Mysteries
Chapter 3: SOMA, the divine Elixir of Vedic India tradition
Chapter 4: The Effects of LSI and how she was discovered
Chapter 5: Theoretical Simulation of the Claviceps Paspali based Eleusis Kykeon:
Experiment 1: 25 HBWR seeds yielded 130mg LSA extract residue (25 x .04mg LSA per seed) = converted to LSI/LSV/LSC= felt exactly like 100ug of LSD, but even beyond LSD (like combo of ALD-52 + mescaline)
Experiment 2: 25 HBWR seeds yielded 139mg LSA extract residue (25 x .04mg LSA per seed) = converted to LSI/LSV/LSC again felt exactly like 100ug of LSD, but even beyond LSD (like combo of ALD-52 + mescaline)
Experiment 3: 30 HBWR seeds yielded 160mg LSA extract residue (30 x .04mg LSA per seed) = converted to LSI/LSV/LSC felt exactly like 120ug of LSD, but even beyond LSD (like combo of ALD-52 + mescaline)
Experiment 4: 40 HBWR seeds yielded 215mg LSA extract residue (40 x .04mg LSA per seed) = converted to LSI/LSV/LSC felt exactly like 160ug of LSD, but even beyond LSD (like combo of ALD-52 + mescaline)
Chapter 6: Reference: ALD-52 and mescaline trip reports from experienced psychonauts in the literature (combo of both similar to LSI + LSV + LSC Eleusis Kykeon simulation triple action): compare to LSD.
Chapter 7: A brief history of morning glory seeds, HBWR seeds and LSH or Lysergic Acid Hydroxyethylamide
Chapter 8: Psychedelic Brain Receptorome discovery
Chapter 9: The important role THH or tetrahydroharmine plays in traditional Ayahuasca discovery
Chapter 10: How to make THH or tetrahydroharmine: Caapi feminine teaching Spirit discovery
Chapter 11: Theoretical Aloe vera enhanced penetration Ayahuasca capsules discovery: relation to Jonathan Ott’s early 1990s experiments.
Chapter 12: Theoretical Zero nausea Bridgesii cactus tea
Chapter 13: DMSO, nature’s healer
Chapter 14: House music life long pleasure and inspiration
Chapter 15: Walking outdoors in nature daily for 1.5 hour
Chapter 16: Philosophy
Chapter 17: A summary of the ALDHI method from James my chemist associate friend (this will be in next book coming out 1 year from now, 2nd book also describes effects from 50+ HBWR seeds converted to LSI, equivalent to 200ug LSD.)
Chapter 5 question:
When you performed these experiments, why didn’t you go above the equivalent of 160ug of LSD?
I did not feel the need to exceed the equivalent dosage of 160ug LSD (subsequent experiments) as I found the resulting psychedelic experiences to go above and beyond anything I could have ever hoped for. I give a trip report after each experiment forming a combo of LSI, LSV and LSCr.
1) The experience lasts 8 strong anxiety free hours with a 10 hour duration. I have experienced x 9 times now, each profoundly psychedelic trip spaced apart by 1 month. Just as powerful as LSD but even beyond LSD, like a combination of ALD-52 (anxiety free version of LSD also discovered by Dr. Hofmann) & mescaline combined.
2) There is a pleasant stimulation all night long, just like ALD-52 or mescaline exerts, when taken at 3pm, I was always able to fall asleep by midnight, much easier to fall asleep after than LSD.
3) The strength becomes stronger and stronger until she reaches a peak 3.5 hours in
4) There are profound Spiritual revelations, insights and intense healing, she is a feminine teaching spirit.
5) A brilliant diamond like shimmering of all visuals, infinitely fascinating
6) Tracers with open eyes as powerful as lightning strikes, none of the choppiness of LSD visuals, rather the visuals are flowing.
7) Intense, bold neon-like colors are seen all night, just like a combo of ALD-52 + mescaline, far, far more colorful than LSD. I have seen neon colors like purple-yellows, red-greens, and orange-blues that don't belong on this earth
8) Infinite way over the top euphoria felt all night (just like a combo of ALD-52 + mescaline). Anyone who has ever had cactus understands the mescaline euphoria I am talking about.
9) The beauty seen with open eyes is infinite and divine, no words to describe. This was one of the main reasons I took this psychedelic, the enhancement of beauty is just so over the top, extreme and heavenly.
10) The closed eye-colored geometrics seen which progress to real visions the longer the eyes are kept closed are just like what you see on a combination of LSD + mescaline, hundreds and hundreds of way beyond 4k visions many of them playing as if in a movie.
11) The music enhancement is just incredible and heavenly. I've felt more with this LSI, LSV and LSCr combo than with any traditional psychedelic except for mescaline that I was an extraterrestrial being, immersing myself in new sensory phenomena for the first time. Where LSD heightens and clarifies the sense of hearing, this Eleusis kykeon brew simulation produces auditory hallucinations, heightening the hearing sense but also causing sounds to be quite different than normal. I am a music lover and always listened to house music most of the night during the experiences, as on LSI, LSV & LSCr combo, every instrument and beautiful voice stands out on its own, every song is "epic". Like hearing a song for the very first time.
12) As for aphrodisiacal use of LSI, LSV & LSCr combo, wow! it brought energies out of me that I never knew I had.
13) There is zero or no anxiety with this potent 3 psychedelic combo, just like with ALD-52. This would explain why there were no bad trips reported in the Eleusis Kykeon literature.
14) There are no physical side effects: no body load, no nausea, no vasoconstriction, no cramping, just pure psychedelic bliss.
15) The next morning (I would typically get 6 hours sleep after the experience) I felt re-born with a massive serotonin "reset". I would go walking in nature with my shih tzus the following morning and all of nature looked as if brand new with a curiosity of nature's divinity.
Note: Morning glory seeds did not work, only HBWR seeds worked to simulate the kykeon and Vedic SOMA in the experiments in the book ages ago...my results with up to 150 morning glory seeds were extremely disappointing (even below threshold effects), I believe the mg seeds are mainly 75% clavine alkaloids with less than 25% LSA, the levels of LSA in mg seeds being probably around .001mg per seed vs HBWR seeds at .04mg per seed. The morning glory seeds resulted in zero entheogenic effects, no euphoria, no stimulation, no visuals, and even no physical symptoms like dilated pupils.
Eleusis Kykeon and Vedic SOMA theoretical simulation Materials list:
1) 25 genuine real HBWR seeds, approximately .04mg LSA per seed. Authentic Argyreia Nervosa from Hawaii, A+ organic hawaiian baby woodrose seeds, I get 400 seeds per order. Beware fake HBWR seeds.
2) 0.001g scale
3) One oversized shot glass for the spinning of the seed dust, and one regular shot glass for the fridge, and a 6 ounce half pint tall canning jar 4" tall x 2.75" wide.
4) magnetic stirrer with 3/8" x 1" long stir bar that can spin easily and fast inside the shot glass or canning jar.
5) everclear (95% grain alcohol or similar high proof alcohol)
6) coffee grinder
7) mortar and pestal
8) long pyrex brownie dish (9" wide x 15" long)
9) 2 razor blades
10) a fan, and a hair dryer to use for last 5 minutes of water evaporation from the pyrex dish (optional)
11) 3 grams of the secret herbal substance Aojiru young barley grass that comes in a nitrogen sealed 3g pack, 46 to a box, very high in isovaleraldehyde, valeraldehyde & crotonaldehyde.
12) distilled or spring water
13) For the chapter 5 three super simple steps with sketch illustrations: DL tartaric acid powder can be used or plain tartaric acid used in wine making (available worldwide). I give amounts of DL tartaric acid or PLAIN TARTARIC ACID powder to use, 30mg in beginning, and 10mg on last step. The 2 stirring steps can be condensed down from 20 minutes each, down to 10 minutes each, shortening the overall procedure time. Plain tartaric acid powder is available for $8 used in wine making available worldwide, which works just as well as DL tartaric acid, I tripped my ass off using plain tartaric acid powder. Plain tartaric acid is actually known as D-tartaric acid (old nomenclature) and is dextrorotary, which is all that matters. Tartaric acid powder is the only acid to be used, period. Tartaric acid participates in hydrogen bonding to LSA and is an important catalyst for the aldehyde condensation.
Dr. Mckenna said the author's 1 hour interview is being released on April 20, 2026 on Brainforest Cafe on you tube. The author's 7-page paper on LSI is being released on Graham Hancock's official site during the April to June timeframe.
Update 1.15.26:
iom said:
Vecktor (advanced chemist like myself, from 1998) said to me (personal communication 20 years ago, when I had discovered LSH):
I promise everyone, in my successful experiments in the book in Chapter 5 (3 super simple steps from LSA in HBWR seeds to LSI), I experienced ZERO side effects even using 40 HBWR seeds, as I extracted the pure LSA residue and stirred it with 3g of Aojiru young barley grass (very high in the 3 aldehydes) to arrive at profound psychedelic effects just as powerful as 160ug of LSD but even beyond LSD, my absolute favorite psychedelic.
I took the 60ml non-alcoholic brew 2 hours after a heavy meal of chili with 75 grams of protein (I'm a bodybuilder) and the brew still worked fantastic, that was the time I used 40 seeds converted to LSI, and it felt identical to 160ug of LSD, but even beyond LSD like a combination of ALD-52 (anxiety free version of LSD) + mescaline at same time, with extreme euphoria, hours of closed eye colored visions and heavenly music enhancement all night, and the most beautiful colors I've seen in my life, not to mention the constant diamond like shimmering of all visuals...and profound spiritual revelations, insights, and healing.
I have been in contact with chemist at the Shulgin institute, I will be on Dr. Dennis Mckenna's you tube show "The Brainforest Cafe" on Jan 16, but it won't go up until 3 weeks afterwards. I have also been in contact with Graham Hancock, and writing an article for his website.
Dr. Nichols (chemical scientist at Purdue University who studies LSD) is so impressed with the effects that he is even synthesizing LSI, and writing a journal paper on this ground breaking discovery, citing my book of course he told me.
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Update 1.22.26:
From page 3, post #54:
Red22, cinnamaldehyde contains twice the number of hydrogens and carbons as isovaleraldehyde (my discovery) and 3-aminopentane (Dr. Nichol's discovery), thus cinnamaldehyde will not fit into the brain receptor that LSD and LSI fits.
The rats responded to Dr. Nichol's discovery as if they had been given LSD, paper here: https://www.heffter.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/chap6.pdf
My discovery and Dr. Nichol's discovery are both extremely similar:
1) This aldehyde: isovaleraldehyde discovery that works has FIVE carbon groups and 11 hydrogen just like 3-aminopentane which was found by Dr. Nichols to have activity very similar to LSD in the rat assays, as the rats reacted to it as if they had been given LSD. Anything beyond this, like cinnamaldehyde with a very high molecular weight has way too many carbons and hydrogens (almost double) and will result in weak effects, as it does not fit into the receptor.
2) The important thing to note from the Dr. Nichol's table, in the far right column, is the fact that LSD has a potency in rats in the drug discrimination behavioral assay of 48 nanomoles per kilogram of rat body weight. Only two other compounds have comparable activity: entries 6 and 16. Entry 16 is 3-aminopentane, and has a potency in rats in the drug discrimination behavioral assay of 52 nanomoles per kilogram of rat body weight.
3) Isovaleraldehyde looks identical to the tail end of DMT and psilocin once it condenses onto the amide (NH) of LSA with the exact same number of carbons and hydrogens with the same chemical formula of CHO CH2 CH2 2(CH3).
4) BOTH have exact same molecular weights of 87 similar to diethylamine molecular weight of LSD at 73g/mol.
And yes, LSI works bad ass! Everytime I drunk the 60ml non-alcoholic Eleusis & SOMA simulation brew, I TRIPPED BALLS !!!!! It is my all time favorite psychedelic, I prefer it to LSD by miles, as LSI is more colorful, more music enhancing, more euphoric, and has no anxiety (just like ALD-52). LSI is stimulating all night just like LSD but it's a little bit easier to fall asleep on, as I noted in my interview with Dr. Mckenna. This I greatly appreciate! I can drink LSI at 3pm, and be able to sleep by 1am no problem.
40 HBWR seeds is the equivalent of 160ug LSD.
50 HBWR seeds is the equivalent of 200ug LSD.
And, there are ZERO side effects, the 3 super simple steps in my book, in Chapter 5, has no nausea, no vasoconstriction, no cramping, no anxiety, just pure psychedelic bliss, I promise everyone. YES, this is a ground breaking new discovery, I was just interviewed on Dr. Mckenna's show Brainforest Cafe on You tube, it goes up in 2 weeks from now: https://mckenna.academy/mka-podcast/
---> The 2 stirring steps in the book can be reduced from 20 minutes, to only 10 minutes tops! how is that for fast? <---
Hamilton Morris reddit on subject:
Another Hamilton Morris reddit on subject:
Download this paper at Mycotopia, to see just how sky high the aldehydes: isovaleraldehyde, valeraldehyde, and crotonaldehyde are in Golden AOJIRU young barley grass powder (comes packed in individual 3gram nitrogen sealed packets, 46 to a box): https://mycotopia.net/topic/112442-lsi-ancient-lsd-secret-of-the-eleusis-kykeon/page-2 One hundred or x100 times the levels found in peppermint leaf and oils.
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Omitting the 3 grams of barley (AOJIRU golden young barley grass in 3g nitrogen sealed packet, comes in box of 46) results in just your typical "LSA" experience which is sedating and uncomfortable with no visuals.
Discovered this after the LSI discovery & discussed this with Dr. Mckenna in my interview coming out in 2 weeks: https://mckenna.academy/mka-podcast/
Researcher William Scott Shelley writes in chapter 3 & 4 of his 2018 book "SOMA and the Indo-European Priesthood, Cereal Cultivation and the Origins of Religion" about how "SOMA is mixed with barley": https://www.amazon.com/Soma-Indo-Eu...BKVO0WZu4rPpC3x1rzF-AaU&qid=1769356668&sr=8-1
(SHELLEY, 2018): Barley is the color of SOMA, and barley was mixed with SOMA.
My very potent 60ml non-alcoholic LSI brew from chapter 5 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GCH1XGVT/ref=sr_1_1?asc_source=01HDRG07ZP5FJRJVES5GYSHWKK&tag=snx1-20 is also a golden green color, just as SOMA was said to be.
(BAKELS, 2003) The Soviet archeologist Viktor Sarianidi wrote that he had discovered vessels and mortars used to prepare soma in Zoroastrian temples in the Bactria–Margiana Archaeological Complex. He said that the vessels have revealed residues and seed impressions (quite possibly from HBWR seeds which originate in India) left behind during the preparation of SOMA.
I also used a vessel, mortar and pestle in Chapter 5 to prepare a combo of LSI + LSV + LSCr from the extract of HBWR seeds combined with the young barley grass cereal grain. SOMA is a Vedic Sanskrit word that literally means “distill, extract, sprinkle”, often connected in the context of rituals.
HBWR seeds originate in India, and they are now grown all over the world.
(RATSCH, 2005) On page 65 of the “The Encyclopedia of Psychoactive Plants”, Christian Ratsch said “The baby Hawaiian wood rose is a possible candidate for the SOMA plant, which was described as a vine.”
I believe there is a strong possibly this was also SOMA, said to be a vine, as my successful experiments in Chapter 5 show that all the ritual preparers had to do in India Vedic tradition was add the extract of HBWR seeds which originate in India, now grown in Hawaii as HBWR, to young barley grass powder (offered during rituals) very high in isovaleraldehyde, valeraldehyde, and crotonaldehyde and consume together to form LSI, LSV and LSCr, producing effects exactly like LSD but even beyond LSD like a combo of ALD-52 (anxiety free version of LSD that is more colorful, euphoric & music enhancing) plus mescaline.
The young barley grass high in the 3 aldehydes was one of the most respected cereal grains of the Rigveda.
William Scott Shelley:
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From page 4, post #65: https://www.bluelight.org/community...e-eleusis-kykeon-and-vedic-soma.950819/page-4
Allylbenzene said:
I promise you even with 40 seed extract converted to LSI + LSV (equivalent to 160ug LSD) there are ZERO side effects, no nausea, cramping or vasoconstriction at all, complete infinite euphoric psychedelic bliss for the entire night: 8 strong hours with 10 hour duration.
I hear your concern flame_assay, you can do as Allylbenzene states above, or do what I did in the very beginning: -->I started out with just 5 seeds and noticed it felt about like 20ug LSD, then I went up to 25 seeds which felt like (25 x .04mg per seed) = 100ug LSD, then I moved up to 30 seeds which felt exactly like (30 x .04mg LSA per seed ) = 120ug LSD, then I moved up to 40 seeds (40 x .04mg LSA per seed) = 160ug LSD.
This may help you to feel more comfortable, see here how Kash (very well respected, author of the LSA extract TEK) used up to 40 seeds:
Kash said in the thread “Kash’s advanced LSA extraction” back in 2012:
https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=35607
Keep in mind, we are extracting PURE LSA from the HBWR seeds, then converting it to LSI + LSV (main alkaloids) in record time in 3 super simple steps. There is ZERO or no side effects, as we are leaving the nausea causing seed pulp behind at the bottom of the shotglass, which gets thrown away.
For decades, people have been consuming the whole seeds crushed, which is the wrong way, as the seed pulp is what is nauseating and has side effects galore, the pure LSA has none of this at at all, just like Kash notes above.
Start off with just 5 seeds if you want, just as I did....I was cautious just like you in the beginning.
I have taken 40 seeds (equivalent to 160ug of LSD) x twice now, spaced 1 month apart, and she is my all time favorite psychedelic, that I will respect for the rest of my life:
She is even better than LSD imho: No anxiety, hours and hours of closed eye colored visions just like LSD, extreme mescaline like euphoria all night, just as colorful and music enhancing as mescaline, tracers as powerful as lightning strikes, whereas LSD can have choppy visuals, the visuals are flowing with LSI, continuous diamond like shimmering of all visuals, LSI is the most bad ass psychedelic equal to mescaline and Ayahuasca that I've ever had the pleasure of trying, yes, she is that good, and she is super cheap to make, with no nastiness to the 2oz brew, down in 2 gulps.
As there is zero or no anxiety with LSI + LSV, I plan on even taking her at 40 seed dose converted to LSI + LSV and walk down the street and trip all morning and early afternoon long at one of the world's largest waterparks, which we live down the street from.
I know this will be absolutely incredible! As I used to take zero nausea bridgesii cactus tea at least 20 times at the waterpark. This LSI + LSV is just as incredible as mescaline, my other all time favorite psychedelic.
From 2.1.2026:
--> Remember, even though LSI + LSV is stimulating just like LSD, it's way easier to fall asleep on than after LSD, I can take LSI + LSV 2oz brew at 3pm, and be able to fall asleep at midnight, whereas with LSD, I would still be up till 3 or 4am in the morning, a huge benefit to this very powerful no anxiety LSI + LSV Sacred ancient Elixir <--
Search amazon for "LSD", the book has been in the #1 spot for weeks now, with over 60 copies sold in 1 month, which is good as I will be able to make sizeable donations here to bluelight every 3 months to help support its operation.
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perpetualdawn said:
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Assessing the product quality and biological activities of barley Hordeum vulgare L grasses at different harvest times, 2022, see PAGE 5, ALDEHYDE TABLE:
Isovaleraldehyde, Valeraldehyde & Crotonaldehyde levels eclipse the levels of the other 10 aldehydes in young barley, resulting in a triple action LSI, LSV and LSCr experience when simulating the Eleusis Kykeon. Aldehydes strongest at Z21 young growth stage:
Propionaldehyde = 2.18
Isobutyraldehyde = 1.41
Butyraldehyde = 0.69
2-methylbutyraldehyde = 2.28
→ Isovaleraldehyde or Butanal = 7.52 (converts LSA to LSI)
Hexanal = 3.73
Trans-2-hexenal = 1.60
Trans-2,4-heptadienal = 1.17
Benzaldehyde = 1.12
2,6,6-trimethyl-1-cyclohexene-1-carboxaldehyde .3
→ Valeraldehyde = 13.40 (converts LSA to LSV)
→ Crotonaldehyde or 2-Butenal = 7.63 (converts LSA to LSCr)
2-hexenal = 1.39
The levels of isovaleraldehyde in AOJIRU young barley grass powder is x100 (one hundred times) the levels found in peppermint, which is what we need (these super strong levels of these 3 aldehydes to form LSI + LSV + LSCr) for a profound triple psychedelic action when the 2oz Sacred Psychedelic Elixir is consumed.
Pic of genuine real seeds used and the $8 tartaric acid used here, 3rd to last post: https://www.shaman-australis.com/fo...e-steps-a-more-euphoric-colorful-musical-lsd/
LSI, Ancient LSD, Secret of the Eleusis Kykeon and Vedic SOMA - Graham Hancock Official Website
I am a lab chemist with decades of experience studying psychedelics. I studied chemistry, attending 4 years at Texas A&M University and 2 years at Texas Lutheran University. I grew up reading Graham Hancock’s books, which have been a huge inspiration for me. Books from “Fingerprints of the Gods”...
from Post #144:
Vector (advanced chemist like myself):
Bluelightbird, yes, you must use real genuine HBWR seeds, also do not forget that adducts form in the liver in-vivo via a simple condensation reaction. I spend several pages in the book discussing this. The documented LSH or Lysergic acid hydroxyethylamide adduct formed from LSA + acetaldehyde (from alcohol) in the liver is one example: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20018470/ Paulke study showed LSH does not exists in HBWR seeds naturally (only in morning glory seeds). The LSH forms in the liver from LSA + alcohol, this forensics study link above documents this. LSH was detected in the bloodstream and urine of friend and deceased individual who jumped out the apartment.tregar, you have probably rediscovered something that has long been a curiosity, for example on the now defunct blacklight site there was TLC posted of morning glory seed extract treated with methanol, acetaldehyde-methanol or with acetaldehyde in ph=4 water, the extract treated with acetaldehyde-methanol and acetaldehyde in ph=4 water showed a clear difference in the alkaloid profile, with a shift to several new non polar spots which couldn't be identified. Very likely the LSA converted to LSH (LSA + acetaldehyde = LSH). IIRC Erhlichs was used to develop the plates so these were indole compounds.
This famous 1992 study from Austin demonstrated that adducts can form in the liver with tryptophan analogues (just like out LSA) and aldehydes alone, and in the case of ergoline alkaloids, alcohol is not even required, just the aldehyde alone in the liver with the indole alone via a simple condensation reaction: https://www.semanticscholar.org/pap...nrat/e04e99e70e3ee82d285cab1647a710b112253aa1 The aldehydes are attracted to the indole NH just like a magnet. Condensation reactions are extremely common in the liver. I find this a plus as how can "the man" make LSI illegal if it is forming in the liver? Perhaps nature planned it this way, knowing that the world laws would eventually target all known external LSD analogues. Nature is extremely clever.
I use only authentic HBWR from one supplier, you can see a pic of my seeds here, they are black and brown in color and all are slightly triangular. Yes, I get 400 seeds at a time, you must use only authentic HBWR seeds as they have 83% LSA (.04mg LSA per seed). There are lots of fake seeds out there that do not work. Pic of seeds: https://mycotopia.net/topic/112442-lsi-ancient-lsd-secret-of-the-eleusis-kykeon/page-3 If you use fake HBWR seeds, the procedure will not work. Post from 69ron on fake seeds vs real seeds: https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=10771 I use only authentic Argyreia Nervosa from Hawaii, A+ organic hawaiian baby woodrose seeds, I get 400 seeds per order, and have hid away literally thousands of the seeds, as the conversion of 45 seeds to LSI is exactly like 550mg of the heavenly mescaline. My all time favorite psychedelic. Zero side effects, zero vasoconstriction, zero sedation, zero nausea when my easy 3 step procedure is followed. Pic of $8 tartaric acid that worked great also on link. 3g nitrogen sealed Aojiru I get 46 packs to a box.
Yes Machine_Elf23, as matter of fact Red22 has done extensive research on how the Greeks could have used wood ash to eliminate the toxic alkaloids in purpurea but be left with non-toxic LSA (then convert to LSI brew). Other than that, there is the non-toxic claviceps paspali which infects barley grass and paspalum grass.
p.s. Last night (Friday) 5.1.26 I extracted the LSA from 45 HBWR seeds (210mg LSA residue scraped up from pyrex dish) in record time (45 minutes) and converted it to the 2oz LSI brew, drank at 3pm, and again had the time of my life! Felt exactly like 550mg mescaline, of all the trips of my life, this was again at the very top, stimulating just like mescaline for 10 hours, colored closed eye visions all night long, magical open eye visuals, extreme shifting of colors and textures with open eyes, heavenly music enhancement all night, intense diamond like shimmering of all visuals, felt exactly like 180ug LSD, but way more colorful, euphoric, and music enhancing than LSD. Super extreme euphoria all night long, in absolute heaven, pupils dilated all night, as I said earlier, all my life I've dreamed of having a field of bridgesii cactus, and dreams do come true, as this was the 13th time I've drank the sacred brew and experienced same dosage trip as 550mg high dose mescaline, absolutely incredible, have taken once a month now for 13 months...super intense healing all night long, I really needed last nights trip. Even at 1am in the morning when I closed my eyes I was still having way beyond 4k colored visions....I fell asleep at 2am.
1) Pic of genuine real HBWR A+ seeds used, 2) pic of $8 tartaric acid used (used in wine making and baking worldwide), 3) pic of the Aojiru barley 3g nitrogen sealed pack used (46 to a box):
https://mycotopia.net/topic/112442-lsi-ancient-lsd-secret-of-the-eleusis-kykeon/page-3?&p=1511731
Matthew Stahl: Cracking the 2,000-Year-Old Kykeon Mystery | Dennis McKenna on LSA & Soma
LSI, Ancient LSD, Secret of the Eleusis Kykeon and Vedic SOMA - Graham Hancock Official Website
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Dennis Mckenna contacted me, and I was on his show the Brainforest Cafe going up April 20, 2026, view on you tube: https://mckenna.academy/mka-podcast/
1.25.26 I was contacted by Graham Hancock and wrote a 7 page article on LSI for his website, which goes up around March or April of 2026: https://grahamhancock.com/
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See post #65 for latest: https://www.bluelight.org/community...e-eleusis-kykeon-and-vedic-soma.950819/page-4
Very Important updates:
2026 Book: Home made LSI from HBWR seeds in 3 super simple steps, a more euphoric, colorful, musical LSD
Hello shaman australis, you may remember me as tregar from thenook.org (now defunct cactus & mescaline forum), been long time reader here. A review has popped up of book: USA: LSI, Ancient LSD, Secret of the Eleusis Kykeon and Vedic SOMA: Stahl, Matthew Ray: 9798218881634: Amazon.com: Books A...
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1) The 2 stirring steps illustrated in Chapter 5 can be reduced from 20 minutes, to only 10 minutes each. It shortens the overall procedure time nearly in half.
2) and that DL tartaric acid powder or just "plain TARTARIC acid powder used in wine making available worldwide" (not citric acid) should be the only acid powder used that the author used over 5 years ago during the Eleusis kykeon and Vedic SOMA highly successful experiments, so it is very helpful to read about the progression of theoretical simulation steps updated later. Citric acid does not work, only tartaric acid powder works (available worldwide), as described in book.
Again, process only worked extremely well every time when using tartaric acid powder ONLY, not citric acid. It does not have to be DL tartaric acid but can be just plain tartaric acid powder used in wine making, available worldwide.
Illustrated is how the LSA from 25 HBWR seeds LSA converted to LSI felt exactly like 100ug LSD, and how 40 HBWR seeds LSA converted to LSI felt exactly like 170ug LSD or 550mg mescaline. The experience is noted as being even better than LSD imho as LSI incorporates an extra carbon molecule which makes it much more like mescaline than LSD, even more euphoric, colorful, and music enhancing than LSD.
Brian Muraresku's book "The Immorality Key" also relates directly to not only the author's book on LSI but also William Scott Shelley's book called "SOMA and the Indo-European Priesthood".
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VERY IMPORTANT: beware fake HBWR seeds.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5087370
The main difference between varieties is that the speciosa variety is used medicinally in ayurvedic medicine and the nervosa strain has high LSA alkaloid content. It makes little difference where the strains are grown, but most seed originating from India and Africa is of the speciosa variety and thus low in LSA. Do not use seeds from India, very low on LSA.
LOW LSA seeds will not work, just like morning glory seeds will not work as they have only 25% lsa and 75% clavine alkaloids.
Only authentic Authentic Argyreia Nervosa works as they are .04mg LSA per seed. They are black and brown in color and slightly triangular in shape.
https://mycotopia.net/uploads/monthly_03_2026/post-103666-0-45336800-1773154717.jpg
I use only authentic Argyreia Nervosa from Hawaii, A+ organic hawaiian baby woodrose seeds, I get 400 seeds per order, and have hid away literally thousands of the seeds, as the conversion of 40 seeds to LSI is exactly like 550mg of the heavenly mescaline. My all time favorite psychedelic.
Zero side effects, zero vasoconstriction, zero sedation, zero nausea when my easy 3 step procedure is followed.
Tartaric acid used in wine making and baking available worldwide (30mg on 1st stirring step) and 10mg on 2nd or last stirring step works perfectly, no difference from DL tartaric acid. I tripped my ass off on 40 seeds converted last sunday to LSI using plain tartaric acid I bought for $8 on line used in wine making, took only 55 minutes to prepare as illustrations show. Only two 10 minute stirring steps, and 35 minutes waiting during evaporation step. Most of time is spent waiting between the 3 simple steps.
Felt identical to 550mg mescaline, out of this world neon colors all night, extreme euphoria, hours of way beyond 4k closed eye colored visions, infinite music enhancement, a pleasant stimulation all the way from 3pm when drank till midnight when I fell asleep. Intense healing and profound spiritual insights, profound shifting of colors and textures, powerful tracers, far better than LSD imho, no choppiness to the visuals but rather the visuals are flowing, magical open eye visuals, swimming in euphoria all night. Same exact power as 160ug LSD.
Full blow up pic of the seeds I used (last post #36): https://mycotopia.net/topic/112442-lsi-ancient-lsd-secret-of-the-eleusis-kykeon/page-2
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UPDATE 2.1.26:
I tripped on 40 seed converted to LSI last night on Saturday!! unbelievable, so much better than LSD, exactly like 160ug of LSD but so much better!!!! just incredible !!!!!!!! you have to try this.
again, zero side effects, zero anxiety, had hours of closed eye colored visions, insane euphoria, music was so bad ass, colors out of this world, no anxiety, so freaking bad ass !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! my ultimate favorite. I drank the 60ml brew
at 3pm, and was still able to fall asleep exactly at midnight, way easier to fall asleep than after LSD.
This time I stirred for only 10 minutes for each of the 2 stirring steps (instead of 20 minutes each) and it worked just as well as before, it shortens the procedure time in half. Instructions in chapter 5, 3 super simple steps illustrated.
The LSA residue scraped up from the pyrex dish (40 seeds) LSA weighed 180mg, took this LSA residue and stirred it in 60ml water with the 3g of aojiru for only 10 minutes, and drank, just incredible.
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Update 2.14.26:
2026 Book: Home made LSI from HBWR seeds in 3 super simple steps, a more euphoric, colorful, musical LSD
Hello shaman australis, you may remember me as tregar from thenook.org (now defunct cactus & mescaline forum), been long time reader here. A review has popped up of book: USA: LSI, Ancient LSD, Secret of the Eleusis Kykeon and Vedic SOMA: Stahl, Matthew Ray: 9798218881634: Amazon.com: Books A...
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There are 13 aldehydes in young barley grass Z21 growth stage highest levels, all of these aldehydes can condense with LSA to form LSI, LSV, LSCr and 10 other Lysergamide cousin compounds which in combination can hit an extreme multitude of brain receptor sites that will rock your world. Propionaldehyde is just one example of the 13.
This Valentines night, Trippin on a 42 seeds weight is 3.5g, crushed weight = 3.5g, LSA extract residue scraped up from brownie dish = 189mg LSA extract residue (approximately .04mg per seed x 42 = 1.7mg LSA), converted to LSI + LSV + LSCr 2oz brew in record time, equivalent to 170ug LSD. 2oz brew is sitting in fridge, ready to drink at 3pm for an incredible Valentines date night. Zero side effects, zero anxiety.
She is even better than LSD imho: No anxiety, hours and hours of closed eye colored visions just like LSD, extreme mescaline like euphoria all night, just as colorful and music enhancing as mescaline, tracers as powerful as lightning strikes, whereas LSD can have choppy visuals, the visuals are flowing with LSI, continuous diamond like shimmering of all visuals, LSI is the most bad ass psychedelic equal to mescaline and Ayahuasca that I've ever had the pleasure of trying, yes, she is that good, and she is super cheap to make, with no nastiness to the 2oz brew, down in 2 gulps. Book distribution is averaging one book per day distributed worldwide, so people are going to eventually find out.
Update 2.15.26: The Valentines LSI trip last night was absolutely incredible, of all the trips of my life, this was at the very top, just as sacred, visual, euphoric, colorful, and music enhancing as any of my 550mg highest dose mescaline trips, I will always use this dose elixir brew, had the time of my life with wife, best valentines day ever.
42 seeds converted to LSI + LSV + LSCr (3 simple steps as shown with illustrations from chapter 5) just as bad ass as 550mg mescaline.
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Update 1.22.26: ---> The 2 stirring steps in the book can be reduced from 20 minutes, to only 10 minutes tops! how is that for fast? <--- see bottom of this post for more info.
This is not covered in Chapter 5 of the book, but I have taken the brew to as high as 40 seeds, converted the 40 seeds to the LSI brew stirred with the 3g of Aojiru young barley, and drank, and experienced a profound psychedelic trip just as powerful as 160ug of LSD.
.04mg LSA per HBWR seed x 40 seeds was the equivalent of 160ug of LSD. I had hours of colored closed eye visions, just incredible, and the music was beyond heavenly, and the euphoria was extreme. My all time favorite psychedelic just like a combination of ALD-52 (anxiety free version of LSD that is more colorful, euphoric & music enhancing) and mescaline at same time.
I am still in shock at the complete lack of side effects going up to 40 seeds converted to LSI, equivalent to 160ug LSD. I don't see any side effects occurring even going up to 50 seeds or 200ug LSD equivalent.
She is a perfect "ultimate psychedelic", the ancients knew their Sacred stuff.
Best part: It seems you can even take this up to 50 seed or 200ug LSD equivalent, and yet ZERO side effects: no nausea, no vasoconstriction, no cramping, just pure psychedelic bliss.
All of this is shown in Chapter 5 in 3 super simple steps. I found the 30mg of DL tartaric acid powder I used at high media: https://www.himediastore.com/dl-tartaric-acid-extra-pure-10626 or just use plain tartaric acid used in wine making avail worldwide (works just as well), but never use citric or any other acids as they will not work, must be tartaric only.
The 2 step super simple extraction shown in Chapter 5 is just used to separate the nausea causing seed pulp in the seeds from the pure LSA. The claviceps paspali ergot the Priest used in ancient Greece had no pulp, so they simply stirred the ergot which grew on the barley together.
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More details:
Everclear is 95% ethanol, so there is ZERO nausea once the 30ml everclear is evaporated from the brownie dish, and the LSA extract scraped up, this is all done in 3 simple steps from seeds to LSI. I have never ever experienced any nausea or any side effects whatsoever in any of my 7 highly successful experiments.
More info here, (the nausea causing seed mush is left behind at bottom of shot glass and thrown away, so there is zero nausea): please read entire thread: https://www.shaman-australis.com/fo...e-steps-a-more-euphoric-colorful-musical-lsd/ see post #1 on how nausea is 100% eliminated.
Yes, tartaric acid should be the only acid used (not citric acid) as we found out recently it participates in hydrogen bonding and is an important catalyst for the reaction that takes place during the two 10 minute stirring steps. As a matter of fact, I updated the book and ALL forums to reflect this very important update. The only error in the book is that I assumed citric acid could take the place of tartaric acid, so I wrote that it could possibly substitute, but again citric acid does not work. I used DL tartaric acid for all 7 very successful experiments, my all time favorite psychedelic, 40 seeds converted to LSI just as bad ass and exactly like 550mg heavenly mescaline, equivalent to 170ug LSD.
Plain tartaric acid (used in baking and wine making available worldwide) substitutes just fine for the DL tartaric acid I used in all my experiments in book and beyond, as I learned recently self experiment, absolutely no difference.
Ask google in AI, response is:
Plain tartaric acid used in baking and wine making (available worldwide) thankfully is the D-isomer dextrorotary form of tartaric acid (found in high amounts in grapes), it is dextrorotary (reflects light to the right) just like D-LSD (the only form of LSD that works), as the L-isomer reflects light to the left and is inactive.Yes, DL-tartaric acid can interact with and bind to the NH group of indole, particularly through hydrogen bonding [4.4, 4.6].
- Interaction Mechanism: Tartaric acid acts as a hydrogen-bond donor (via its hydroxyl and carboxylic acid groups), while the indole NH acts as a hydrogen-bond donor itself, or more commonly, the interaction is mediated through the acidic, polar, and hydrogen-bonding environment created by the tartaric acid, often forming stable complexes [4.4, 4.6].
Chemical formula for tartaric acid is C4 H6 06, and according to AI it can indeed bond to the NH amide of LSA in acidic environments with stirring. Notice acetaldehyde has the formula of C2 H5 O which binds to the NH amide of LSA to form the psychedelic LSH or Lysergic Acid Hydroxyethylamide (see the molecular picture of LSH I posted in green color here):
TARTARIC ACID has many more carbons and hydrogens and oxygen molecules than acetaldehyde, perhaps explaining the incredible potency of my Kykeon and Vedic SOMA 2oz brew, this raises many questions and is actively being investigated. Recall mescaline has many oxygen molecules, perhaps explaining why my 40 HBWR seed converted to 2oz kykeon and SOMA brew feels identical to me as 550mg of the Heavenly mescaline, much more euphoric, colorful, and music enhancing than LSD.
Ask google in AI, response is:
-->over 5 years ago during the theoretical experiments, I started out with just 5 seeds converted to LSI + LSV + LSCr and noticed it felt about like 20ug LSD, then I went up to 25 seeds which felt like (25 x .04mg per seed) = 100ug LSD, then I moved up to 30 seeds which felt exactly like (30 x .04mg LSA per seed ) = 120ug LSD, then I moved up to 40 seeds (40 x .04mg LSA per seed) = 160ug LSD <--
- Dextrorotatory (+): This natural form of tartaric acid is indeed dextrorotatory, meaning it rotates plane-polarized light to the right.
As you can see, I started out low as cautionary approach with this new discovery over 5 years ago.
Tartaric acid is found in very high amounts in grapes. I read once the kykeon when drunk left a purple stain on beard and gown of priest drinking it...so this could explain if grapes were used in kykeon to provide the high levels of tartaric acid mixed with the LSA from the non toxic claviceps paspali that infects paspalum grass that grows adjacent to Eleusis in the famous Rarian plain then bingo: tartaric acid could indeed be bonding to the NH amide of LSA, explaining the incredible psychedelic potency of my 2oz brew.
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I am a lab chemist, 30 years experience, made a ground breaking discovery on how to make LSI from LSA in less than 1.5 hour, the experience with 25 HBWR seeds is even beyond that of 100ug of ALD-52
The 8 hour long VERY POTENT psychedelic experience is like a combination of ALD-52 (anxiety free version of LSD that is more colorful, euphoric & music enhancing) combined with mescaline, hits way more brain receptors than LSD.
She is an "ultimate psychedelic". In the distant past over a decade ago, took Ayahuasca over 140 times, zero nausea bridgesii cactus tea over 120 times, and LSD a couple hundred times, and yet find this LSI + LSV + LSC combo to be my absolute favorite.
LSI, Ancient LSD, Secret of the Eleusis Kykeon and Vedic SOMA
Contents
Preface: Questions and Answers
Chapter 1: The Shaman on the wall
Chapter 2: The Eleusinian Mysteries
Chapter 3: SOMA, the divine Elixir of Vedic India tradition
Chapter 4: The Effects of LSI and how she was discovered
Chapter 5: Theoretical Simulation of the Claviceps Paspali based Eleusis Kykeon:
Experiment 1: 25 HBWR seeds yielded 130mg LSA extract residue (25 x .04mg LSA per seed) = converted to LSI/LSV/LSC= felt exactly like 100ug of LSD, but even beyond LSD (like combo of ALD-52 + mescaline)
Experiment 2: 25 HBWR seeds yielded 139mg LSA extract residue (25 x .04mg LSA per seed) = converted to LSI/LSV/LSC again felt exactly like 100ug of LSD, but even beyond LSD (like combo of ALD-52 + mescaline)
Experiment 3: 30 HBWR seeds yielded 160mg LSA extract residue (30 x .04mg LSA per seed) = converted to LSI/LSV/LSC felt exactly like 120ug of LSD, but even beyond LSD (like combo of ALD-52 + mescaline)
Experiment 4: 40 HBWR seeds yielded 215mg LSA extract residue (40 x .04mg LSA per seed) = converted to LSI/LSV/LSC felt exactly like 160ug of LSD, but even beyond LSD (like combo of ALD-52 + mescaline)
Chapter 6: Reference: ALD-52 and mescaline trip reports from experienced psychonauts in the literature (combo of both similar to LSI + LSV + LSC Eleusis Kykeon simulation triple action): compare to LSD.
Chapter 7: A brief history of morning glory seeds, HBWR seeds and LSH or Lysergic Acid Hydroxyethylamide
Chapter 8: Psychedelic Brain Receptorome discovery
Chapter 9: The important role THH or tetrahydroharmine plays in traditional Ayahuasca discovery
Chapter 10: How to make THH or tetrahydroharmine: Caapi feminine teaching Spirit discovery
Chapter 11: Theoretical Aloe vera enhanced penetration Ayahuasca capsules discovery: relation to Jonathan Ott’s early 1990s experiments.
Chapter 12: Theoretical Zero nausea Bridgesii cactus tea
Chapter 13: DMSO, nature’s healer
Chapter 14: House music life long pleasure and inspiration
Chapter 15: Walking outdoors in nature daily for 1.5 hour
Chapter 16: Philosophy
Chapter 17: A summary of the ALDHI method from James my chemist associate friend (this will be in next book coming out 1 year from now, 2nd book also describes effects from 50+ HBWR seeds converted to LSI, equivalent to 200ug LSD.)
Chapter 5 question:
When you performed these experiments, why didn’t you go above the equivalent of 160ug of LSD?
I did not feel the need to exceed the equivalent dosage of 160ug LSD (subsequent experiments) as I found the resulting psychedelic experiences to go above and beyond anything I could have ever hoped for. I give a trip report after each experiment forming a combo of LSI, LSV and LSCr.
1) The experience lasts 8 strong anxiety free hours with a 10 hour duration. I have experienced x 9 times now, each profoundly psychedelic trip spaced apart by 1 month. Just as powerful as LSD but even beyond LSD, like a combination of ALD-52 (anxiety free version of LSD also discovered by Dr. Hofmann) & mescaline combined.
2) There is a pleasant stimulation all night long, just like ALD-52 or mescaline exerts, when taken at 3pm, I was always able to fall asleep by midnight, much easier to fall asleep after than LSD.
3) The strength becomes stronger and stronger until she reaches a peak 3.5 hours in
4) There are profound Spiritual revelations, insights and intense healing, she is a feminine teaching spirit.
5) A brilliant diamond like shimmering of all visuals, infinitely fascinating
6) Tracers with open eyes as powerful as lightning strikes, none of the choppiness of LSD visuals, rather the visuals are flowing.
7) Intense, bold neon-like colors are seen all night, just like a combo of ALD-52 + mescaline, far, far more colorful than LSD. I have seen neon colors like purple-yellows, red-greens, and orange-blues that don't belong on this earth
8) Infinite way over the top euphoria felt all night (just like a combo of ALD-52 + mescaline). Anyone who has ever had cactus understands the mescaline euphoria I am talking about.
9) The beauty seen with open eyes is infinite and divine, no words to describe. This was one of the main reasons I took this psychedelic, the enhancement of beauty is just so over the top, extreme and heavenly.
10) The closed eye-colored geometrics seen which progress to real visions the longer the eyes are kept closed are just like what you see on a combination of LSD + mescaline, hundreds and hundreds of way beyond 4k visions many of them playing as if in a movie.
11) The music enhancement is just incredible and heavenly. I've felt more with this LSI, LSV and LSCr combo than with any traditional psychedelic except for mescaline that I was an extraterrestrial being, immersing myself in new sensory phenomena for the first time. Where LSD heightens and clarifies the sense of hearing, this Eleusis kykeon brew simulation produces auditory hallucinations, heightening the hearing sense but also causing sounds to be quite different than normal. I am a music lover and always listened to house music most of the night during the experiences, as on LSI, LSV & LSCr combo, every instrument and beautiful voice stands out on its own, every song is "epic". Like hearing a song for the very first time.
12) As for aphrodisiacal use of LSI, LSV & LSCr combo, wow! it brought energies out of me that I never knew I had.
13) There is zero or no anxiety with this potent 3 psychedelic combo, just like with ALD-52. This would explain why there were no bad trips reported in the Eleusis Kykeon literature.
14) There are no physical side effects: no body load, no nausea, no vasoconstriction, no cramping, just pure psychedelic bliss.
15) The next morning (I would typically get 6 hours sleep after the experience) I felt re-born with a massive serotonin "reset". I would go walking in nature with my shih tzus the following morning and all of nature looked as if brand new with a curiosity of nature's divinity.
Note: Morning glory seeds did not work, only HBWR seeds worked to simulate the kykeon and Vedic SOMA in the experiments in the book ages ago...my results with up to 150 morning glory seeds were extremely disappointing (even below threshold effects), I believe the mg seeds are mainly 75% clavine alkaloids with less than 25% LSA, the levels of LSA in mg seeds being probably around .001mg per seed vs HBWR seeds at .04mg per seed. The morning glory seeds resulted in zero entheogenic effects, no euphoria, no stimulation, no visuals, and even no physical symptoms like dilated pupils.
Eleusis Kykeon and Vedic SOMA theoretical simulation Materials list:
1) 25 genuine real HBWR seeds, approximately .04mg LSA per seed. Authentic Argyreia Nervosa from Hawaii, A+ organic hawaiian baby woodrose seeds, I get 400 seeds per order. Beware fake HBWR seeds.
2) 0.001g scale
3) One oversized shot glass for the spinning of the seed dust, and one regular shot glass for the fridge, and a 6 ounce half pint tall canning jar 4" tall x 2.75" wide.
4) magnetic stirrer with 3/8" x 1" long stir bar that can spin easily and fast inside the shot glass or canning jar.
5) everclear (95% grain alcohol or similar high proof alcohol)
6) coffee grinder
7) mortar and pestal
8) long pyrex brownie dish (9" wide x 15" long)
9) 2 razor blades
10) a fan, and a hair dryer to use for last 5 minutes of water evaporation from the pyrex dish (optional)
11) 3 grams of the secret herbal substance Aojiru young barley grass that comes in a nitrogen sealed 3g pack, 46 to a box, very high in isovaleraldehyde, valeraldehyde & crotonaldehyde.
12) distilled or spring water
13) For the chapter 5 three super simple steps with sketch illustrations: DL tartaric acid powder can be used or plain tartaric acid used in wine making (available worldwide). I give amounts of DL tartaric acid or PLAIN TARTARIC ACID powder to use, 30mg in beginning, and 10mg on last step. The 2 stirring steps can be condensed down from 20 minutes each, down to 10 minutes each, shortening the overall procedure time. Plain tartaric acid powder is available for $8 used in wine making available worldwide, which works just as well as DL tartaric acid, I tripped my ass off using plain tartaric acid powder. Plain tartaric acid is actually known as D-tartaric acid (old nomenclature) and is dextrorotary, which is all that matters. Tartaric acid powder is the only acid to be used, period. Tartaric acid participates in hydrogen bonding to LSA and is an important catalyst for the aldehyde condensation.
Dr. Mckenna said the author's 1 hour interview is being released on April 20, 2026 on Brainforest Cafe on you tube. The author's 7-page paper on LSI is being released on Graham Hancock's official site during the April to June timeframe.
Update 1.15.26:
iom said:
I am firmly with @xdrc here in so far as we need more evidence.
Vecktor (advanced chemist like myself, from 1998) said to me (personal communication 20 years ago, when I had discovered LSH):
In Chapter 4 and 7 of my book, I also provide 4 scientific papers which back up my successful experimental results.You have probably rediscovered something that has long been a curiosity, for example on the now defunct blacklight site there was a TLC posted of morning glory seed extract treated with (1) methanol, (2) acetaldehyde-methanol or with (3) acetaldehyde in ph=4 water. Both the extract treated with (2) acetaldehyde-methanol and with (3) acetaldehyde in ph=4 water showed a clear difference in the alkaloid profile, with a shift to several new non-polar spots which couldn't be identified. Very likely the LSA converted to LSH (LSA + acetaldehyde adduct = LSH). IIRC Erhlichs was used to develop the plates so these were indole compounds.
I promise everyone, in my successful experiments in the book in Chapter 5 (3 super simple steps from LSA in HBWR seeds to LSI), I experienced ZERO side effects even using 40 HBWR seeds, as I extracted the pure LSA residue and stirred it with 3g of Aojiru young barley grass (very high in the 3 aldehydes) to arrive at profound psychedelic effects just as powerful as 160ug of LSD but even beyond LSD, my absolute favorite psychedelic.
I took the 60ml non-alcoholic brew 2 hours after a heavy meal of chili with 75 grams of protein (I'm a bodybuilder) and the brew still worked fantastic, that was the time I used 40 seeds converted to LSI, and it felt identical to 160ug of LSD, but even beyond LSD like a combination of ALD-52 (anxiety free version of LSD) + mescaline at same time, with extreme euphoria, hours of closed eye colored visions and heavenly music enhancement all night, and the most beautiful colors I've seen in my life, not to mention the constant diamond like shimmering of all visuals...and profound spiritual revelations, insights, and healing.
I have been in contact with chemist at the Shulgin institute, I will be on Dr. Dennis Mckenna's you tube show "The Brainforest Cafe" on Jan 16, but it won't go up until 3 weeks afterwards. I have also been in contact with Graham Hancock, and writing an article for his website.
Dr. Nichols (chemical scientist at Purdue University who studies LSD) is so impressed with the effects that he is even synthesizing LSI, and writing a journal paper on this ground breaking discovery, citing my book of course he told me.
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Update 1.22.26:
From page 3, post #54:
Red22, cinnamaldehyde contains twice the number of hydrogens and carbons as isovaleraldehyde (my discovery) and 3-aminopentane (Dr. Nichol's discovery), thus cinnamaldehyde will not fit into the brain receptor that LSD and LSI fits.
The rats responded to Dr. Nichol's discovery as if they had been given LSD, paper here: https://www.heffter.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/chap6.pdf
My discovery and Dr. Nichol's discovery are both extremely similar:
1) This aldehyde: isovaleraldehyde discovery that works has FIVE carbon groups and 11 hydrogen just like 3-aminopentane which was found by Dr. Nichols to have activity very similar to LSD in the rat assays, as the rats reacted to it as if they had been given LSD. Anything beyond this, like cinnamaldehyde with a very high molecular weight has way too many carbons and hydrogens (almost double) and will result in weak effects, as it does not fit into the receptor.
2) The important thing to note from the Dr. Nichol's table, in the far right column, is the fact that LSD has a potency in rats in the drug discrimination behavioral assay of 48 nanomoles per kilogram of rat body weight. Only two other compounds have comparable activity: entries 6 and 16. Entry 16 is 3-aminopentane, and has a potency in rats in the drug discrimination behavioral assay of 52 nanomoles per kilogram of rat body weight.
3) Isovaleraldehyde looks identical to the tail end of DMT and psilocin once it condenses onto the amide (NH) of LSA with the exact same number of carbons and hydrogens with the same chemical formula of CHO CH2 CH2 2(CH3).
4) BOTH have exact same molecular weights of 87 similar to diethylamine molecular weight of LSD at 73g/mol.
And yes, LSI works bad ass! Everytime I drunk the 60ml non-alcoholic Eleusis & SOMA simulation brew, I TRIPPED BALLS !!!!! It is my all time favorite psychedelic, I prefer it to LSD by miles, as LSI is more colorful, more music enhancing, more euphoric, and has no anxiety (just like ALD-52). LSI is stimulating all night just like LSD but it's a little bit easier to fall asleep on, as I noted in my interview with Dr. Mckenna. This I greatly appreciate! I can drink LSI at 3pm, and be able to sleep by 1am no problem.
40 HBWR seeds is the equivalent of 160ug LSD.
50 HBWR seeds is the equivalent of 200ug LSD.
And, there are ZERO side effects, the 3 super simple steps in my book, in Chapter 5, has no nausea, no vasoconstriction, no cramping, no anxiety, just pure psychedelic bliss, I promise everyone. YES, this is a ground breaking new discovery, I was just interviewed on Dr. Mckenna's show Brainforest Cafe on You tube, it goes up in 2 weeks from now: https://mckenna.academy/mka-podcast/
---> The 2 stirring steps in the book can be reduced from 20 minutes, to only 10 minutes tops! how is that for fast? <---
Hamilton Morris reddit on subject:
Another Hamilton Morris reddit on subject:
Download this paper at Mycotopia, to see just how sky high the aldehydes: isovaleraldehyde, valeraldehyde, and crotonaldehyde are in Golden AOJIRU young barley grass powder (comes packed in individual 3gram nitrogen sealed packets, 46 to a box): https://mycotopia.net/topic/112442-lsi-ancient-lsd-secret-of-the-eleusis-kykeon/page-2 One hundred or x100 times the levels found in peppermint leaf and oils.
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Omitting the 3 grams of barley (AOJIRU golden young barley grass in 3g nitrogen sealed packet, comes in box of 46) results in just your typical "LSA" experience which is sedating and uncomfortable with no visuals.
Discovered this after the LSI discovery & discussed this with Dr. Mckenna in my interview coming out in 2 weeks: https://mckenna.academy/mka-podcast/
Researcher William Scott Shelley writes in chapter 3 & 4 of his 2018 book "SOMA and the Indo-European Priesthood, Cereal Cultivation and the Origins of Religion" about how "SOMA is mixed with barley": https://www.amazon.com/Soma-Indo-Eu...BKVO0WZu4rPpC3x1rzF-AaU&qid=1769356668&sr=8-1
(SHELLEY, 2018): Barley is the color of SOMA, and barley was mixed with SOMA.
My very potent 60ml non-alcoholic LSI brew from chapter 5 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0GCH1XGVT/ref=sr_1_1?asc_source=01HDRG07ZP5FJRJVES5GYSHWKK&tag=snx1-20 is also a golden green color, just as SOMA was said to be.
(BAKELS, 2003) The Soviet archeologist Viktor Sarianidi wrote that he had discovered vessels and mortars used to prepare soma in Zoroastrian temples in the Bactria–Margiana Archaeological Complex. He said that the vessels have revealed residues and seed impressions (quite possibly from HBWR seeds which originate in India) left behind during the preparation of SOMA.
I also used a vessel, mortar and pestle in Chapter 5 to prepare a combo of LSI + LSV + LSCr from the extract of HBWR seeds combined with the young barley grass cereal grain. SOMA is a Vedic Sanskrit word that literally means “distill, extract, sprinkle”, often connected in the context of rituals.
HBWR seeds originate in India, and they are now grown all over the world.
(RATSCH, 2005) On page 65 of the “The Encyclopedia of Psychoactive Plants”, Christian Ratsch said “The baby Hawaiian wood rose is a possible candidate for the SOMA plant, which was described as a vine.”
I believe there is a strong possibly this was also SOMA, said to be a vine, as my successful experiments in Chapter 5 show that all the ritual preparers had to do in India Vedic tradition was add the extract of HBWR seeds which originate in India, now grown in Hawaii as HBWR, to young barley grass powder (offered during rituals) very high in isovaleraldehyde, valeraldehyde, and crotonaldehyde and consume together to form LSI, LSV and LSCr, producing effects exactly like LSD but even beyond LSD like a combo of ALD-52 (anxiety free version of LSD that is more colorful, euphoric & music enhancing) plus mescaline.
The young barley grass high in the 3 aldehydes was one of the most respected cereal grains of the Rigveda.
William Scott Shelley:
Similar to the cover of my book, the women poured the psychedelic elixir for the men seated or reclining before the fire.Barley (yara) was ground, cooked into meals, and offered during rituals, mixed with SOMA, this ritual ancient psychedelic beverage was then given by the women to the men seated in front of the fire in the Zoroastrian temples of ancient Vedic India.
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Allylbenzene said:
Allylbenzene is correct, it's the crushed seed shell fragments that cause nausea, follow the instructions in my book in Chapter 5, illustrated with pictures...we are leaving behind the nausea causing seed fragments from the HBWR seeds at the bottom of the shot glass, these dust like fragments STICK to the bottom of the shot glass and get throw away, 100% eliminating nausea and any side effects, as the 1oz everclear (95% grain alcohol spirit) contain the active alkaloids which we pour off into the brownie dish and evaporate the everclear (or other high proof alcohol you want to use) leaving behind the pure LSA extract which we then scrape up with two razor blades, add this pure LSA extract to 2oz water, pour in your 3g of AOJIRU young barley grass powder from the individual nitrogen sealed packet (come 46 to a box) and stir for 10 minutes using a magnetic stirrer (cheap from amazon) and consume for a profound psychedelic experience even better than LSD imho, like a combination of ALD-52 (anxiety free version of LSD also discovered by Dr. Hoffman) and mescaline combined, my absolute favorite psychedelic.I'm thinking that people using high doses have been either ingesting the seeds themselves or using extracts which have included the more problematic substances. Imo neither of those approaches are appropriate.
I promise you even with 40 seed extract converted to LSI + LSV (equivalent to 160ug LSD) there are ZERO side effects, no nausea, cramping or vasoconstriction at all, complete infinite euphoric psychedelic bliss for the entire night: 8 strong hours with 10 hour duration.
I hear your concern flame_assay, you can do as Allylbenzene states above, or do what I did in the very beginning: -->I started out with just 5 seeds and noticed it felt about like 20ug LSD, then I went up to 25 seeds which felt like (25 x .04mg per seed) = 100ug LSD, then I moved up to 30 seeds which felt exactly like (30 x .04mg LSA per seed ) = 120ug LSD, then I moved up to 40 seeds (40 x .04mg LSA per seed) = 160ug LSD.
This may help you to feel more comfortable, see here how Kash (very well respected, author of the LSA extract TEK) used up to 40 seeds:
Kash said in the thread “Kash’s advanced LSA extraction” back in 2012:
https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=35607
Kash is correct, in that if the LSA is not mixed with 3grams of the Aojiru 100% Japan domestic grown young barley grass powder, the experience is just like your typical LSA experience: uncomfortable and sedating with no visuals. LSI and LSV are stimulating and VERY POTENT psychedelics on the other hand. Don't use peppermint oil as it contains 100 times less isovaleraldehyde as barley, always use AOJIRU barley, it comes in 3grams nitrogen sealed packs. Just snip open the pack and pour it into your 2oz (60ml water) with the LSA extract, spin for 10 minutes, and consume.Just took a 40 HBWR seed portion of LSA extract that was mixed for 15 minutes with peppermint oil yesterday and tripped his face off with a friend. It was very clean and relaxing. Rainbows and vibrant fractal energy danced all over the skies and throughout his surroundings and music sounded great. The head-space was very acid-like but different. Was a bit intense but he was able to keep it together lol. The whole trip was about 8 hrs long. I have tried a 20 seed extract without peppermint oil and it seemed uncomfortable and sedating with no visuals, while every time he has added peppermint oil he has gotten visuals.
Keep in mind, we are extracting PURE LSA from the HBWR seeds, then converting it to LSI + LSV (main alkaloids) in record time in 3 super simple steps. There is ZERO or no side effects, as we are leaving the nausea causing seed pulp behind at the bottom of the shotglass, which gets thrown away.
For decades, people have been consuming the whole seeds crushed, which is the wrong way, as the seed pulp is what is nauseating and has side effects galore, the pure LSA has none of this at at all, just like Kash notes above.
Start off with just 5 seeds if you want, just as I did....I was cautious just like you in the beginning.
I have taken 40 seeds (equivalent to 160ug of LSD) x twice now, spaced 1 month apart, and she is my all time favorite psychedelic, that I will respect for the rest of my life:
She is even better than LSD imho: No anxiety, hours and hours of closed eye colored visions just like LSD, extreme mescaline like euphoria all night, just as colorful and music enhancing as mescaline, tracers as powerful as lightning strikes, whereas LSD can have choppy visuals, the visuals are flowing with LSI, continuous diamond like shimmering of all visuals, LSI is the most bad ass psychedelic equal to mescaline and Ayahuasca that I've ever had the pleasure of trying, yes, she is that good, and she is super cheap to make, with no nastiness to the 2oz brew, down in 2 gulps.
As there is zero or no anxiety with LSI + LSV, I plan on even taking her at 40 seed dose converted to LSI + LSV and walk down the street and trip all morning and early afternoon long at one of the world's largest waterparks, which we live down the street from.
I know this will be absolutely incredible! As I used to take zero nausea bridgesii cactus tea at least 20 times at the waterpark. This LSI + LSV is just as incredible as mescaline, my other all time favorite psychedelic.
From 2.1.2026:
Read the last few sample pages from ebook to learn of the dozen bad ass psychedelic effects from LSI + LSV: https://www.amazon.com/Ancient-Secret-Eleusis-Kykeon-Vedic-ebook/dp/B0GD1TG6LL/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0This time I stirred for only 10 minutes for each of the 2 stirring steps (instead of 20 minutes each) and it worked just as well as before, it shortens the procedure time in half. Instructions in chapter 5, 3 super simple steps illustrated. You can use 40mg pure ascorbic acid (pure vitamin C powder) for the 1st stirring step, and 20mg pure vitamin C powder for the last stirring step, works just as well as DL tartaric acid or citric acid.
The LSA residue scraped up from the pyrex dish (40 seeds) LSA weighed 180mg, took this LSA residue and stirred it in 60ml water with the 3g of aojiru for only 10 minutes, and drank, just incredible.
--> Remember, even though LSI + LSV is stimulating just like LSD, it's way easier to fall asleep on than after LSD, I can take LSI + LSV 2oz brew at 3pm, and be able to fall asleep at midnight, whereas with LSD, I would still be up till 3 or 4am in the morning, a huge benefit to this very powerful no anxiety LSI + LSV Sacred ancient Elixir <--
Search amazon for "LSD", the book has been in the #1 spot for weeks now, with over 60 copies sold in 1 month, which is good as I will be able to make sizeable donations here to bluelight every 3 months to help support its operation.
Don't forget my interview with Dr. Mckenna goes up in just a few days: Podcast McKenna Academy of Natural Philosophy | Archives
perpetualdawn said:
Wow young barley greens eh? Not what I expected at all. I can't find anything published talking about isovaleraldehyde, valeraldehyde and crotonaldehyde content in aojiru, how do you know this @tregar?
1-s2.0-S2212429222000074-main-2.pdf 3.29MB 41 downloadsAssessing the product quality and biological activities of barley Hordeum vulgare L grasses at different harvest times, 2022, see PAGE 5, ALDEHYDE TABLE:
Isovaleraldehyde, Valeraldehyde & Crotonaldehyde levels eclipse the levels of the other 10 aldehydes in young barley, resulting in a triple action LSI, LSV and LSCr experience when simulating the Eleusis Kykeon. Aldehydes strongest at Z21 young growth stage:
Propionaldehyde = 2.18
Isobutyraldehyde = 1.41
Butyraldehyde = 0.69
2-methylbutyraldehyde = 2.28
→ Isovaleraldehyde or Butanal = 7.52 (converts LSA to LSI)
Hexanal = 3.73
Trans-2-hexenal = 1.60
Trans-2,4-heptadienal = 1.17
Benzaldehyde = 1.12
2,6,6-trimethyl-1-cyclohexene-1-carboxaldehyde .3
→ Valeraldehyde = 13.40 (converts LSA to LSV)
→ Crotonaldehyde or 2-Butenal = 7.63 (converts LSA to LSCr)
2-hexenal = 1.39
The levels of isovaleraldehyde in AOJIRU young barley grass powder is x100 (one hundred times) the levels found in peppermint, which is what we need (these super strong levels of these 3 aldehydes to form LSI + LSV + LSCr) for a profound triple psychedelic action when the 2oz Sacred Psychedelic Elixir is consumed.
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