The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - 5th Dose (you took too much, seriously)

[Darksidesam]

^ lets get Chemically insane on the case , That person might be able to hold bluelighters biggest MXE consumption amount

Someone please answer my question lol.

If i redose whilst slightly wonky, (say 5 hours later) would that be risky? I cant M hole in this ave lol ,Or am i better of using ketamine after the mxe is wearing off?

 

[ColtDan]

you'll be fine mate. redose on mxe. just make sure its 4/5 hours after

 

[Darksidesam]

okay, if i get in an m-hole and embarrass myself im blaming you Lol..

Im trying to set an okay impression that night ! (hence no mdma) LOL :D

 

[the toad]

^ lets get Chemically insane on the case , That person might be able to hold bluelighters biggest MXE consumption amount

Someone please answer my question lol.

If i redose whilst slightly wonky, (say 5 hours later) would that be risky? I cant M hole in this ave lol ,Or am i better of using ketamine after the mxe is wearing off?

I typically if I'm partying into the night... I prefer to take a nice dose of mxe and then use ketamine when its effects fade... I find that redosing with mxe ends up lasting longer than id like it to... but if its a daytime event and I will be partying into the night its mostly mxe then ketamine toward the end... but ketamine at the end is always nice and calming...

either way however I don't see any holing issues as long as you stay under say 0.5mg/lb and don't redose before the effects are wearing... as I've said... I give first timers 0.4-0.5mg/lb... id say I've had experience with this method on about 40-50 willing test subjects and all had great experiences...

What I find with mxe is that the hole isn't like a khole.. you are still up and talking and partying... unless you take a lot and go deeper like 0.75+mg/pound range... on a subject with no or minimal tolerance...

And I've only actually consumed perhaps 30g myself since I discovered it in june... the rest has gone to other people...

 

[pharmakos]

Specifically mouthwash with alcohol and menthol (i.e., Listerine and copycat store varieties)... both substances temporarily enhance absorption across mucus membranes and capillaries.

Learned this from Daniel Siebert (of SageWisdom) instructions for getting the most out of his marvelous Emerald Essence Salvia tincture (much much better and more comprehensible than smoking it btw).

Speaking of which I wonder if anyone has been foolhardy enough to try Salvia while on MXE? I know from experience that Salvia synergizes with LSD really well and seems to give more sensible (but still weird) coherent stable "alternate reality" experiences and less of the random WTF? trips salvia on its own is known for. As they are both dissociatives, I would not expect to have any idea what just happened... but who knows, could give unexpected results... perhaps on a background of a longer lasting substrate buzz salvia might "behave" better?

i learned about that trick from Siebert as well

i haven't done it personally, but i know a lot of people use DXM as launch pad for Salvia. its supposed to work better than smoking Salvia while sober (the experience is less scary i've heard)

 

[Darksidesam]

I typically if I'm partying into the night... I prefer to take a nice dose of mxe and then use ketamine when its effects fade... I find that redosing with mxe ends up lasting longer than id like it to... but if its a daytime event and I will be partying into the night its mostly mxe then ketamine toward the end... but ketamine at the end is always nice and calming...

And I've only actually consumed perhaps 30g myself since I discovered it in june... the rest has gone to other people...

Ahh generous then , giving all that mxe away =)

, erm well when i go out i like to go on an all weekender haha.

Like be on it/ get on it for a good 24 hours
Being wonky after the rave is finished is not an issue, im sure ill get guided along to an after party hehe

 

[the toad]

Ahh generous then , giving all that mxe away =)

, erm well when i go out i like to go on an all weekender haha.

Like be on it/ get on it for a good 24 hours
Being wonky after the rave is finished is not an issue, im sure ill get guided along to an after party hehe

I have given a little away... this is a research chemical... I have a few colleague's that sponsor my research...

 

[the toad]

I also added a bunch to my ealier post #804

 

[Darksidesam]

i really enjoyed it at 20mg but i wont dose higher unless i think i need more to get that same feeling,
I see it like, long lasting energised stupid grin wonkyness,
Low dose ket for hours that way.
I love it

 

[Tromps]

Tolerance is really an issue with this one. Last night it took 250mg just to get me in the zone. I've only been using it a little under a month too, but like everyday so go figure. I'd be careful with this one people.

 

[Xamkou]

Tolerance is making my question my future with it. Is there cross tolerance between other similar drugs? I plan a 9 day break now

 

[sekio]

Expect significant tolerance with drugs like e.g. DXM and Ketamine, and perhaps moderate tolerance with dopaminergics like MDPV, MDMA, methylphenidate, amphetamine and so on and so forth.

You're going to need a lot more than 9 days of break to reset it. Try 9 years.

This thread sort of reads like the eraly introduction of e.g. cocaine or morphine- a miracle cure, used daily and touted by many, that turns out to have tolerance and bad effects after all, and will no doubt be banned soon. History repeats itself I guess.

 

[Survived Abortion]

This thread sort of reads like the eraly introduction of e.g. cocaine or morphine- a miracle cure, used daily and touted by many, that turns out to have tolerance and bad effects after all, and will no doubt be banned soon. History repeats itself I guess.

Agreed. It's quite astonsihing to see how many people keep upping their doses and redosing daily expecting it all to turn out okay, when there is already a whole load of anecdotal information pointing to the contrary. I just hope everybody stays safe during their experimentations.

 

[Darksidesam]

thats why im being strict with it,

the house has been empty for over a week, and yet ive not used the mxe much ,

I only used it to see its effects, so i dont have to go Shit i dont like this at a rave . lol



i cant see how people need sooo much ,

Ive done not masses of ketamine but a fair little bit and even 20mg of this stuff does what i want it to.

 

[wayab]

10-15 grams later i come to the conclusion that for my great disappointment mxe has nowhere near the mystical/psychonatical value of ketamine.
its quite cool for the purpose of getting fucked up with friends or as a antidepressant
dxm and ketamine are way better and true "transcendogens"
at least in my experience

 

[Tromps]

I still consider it by far my favorite substance and DOC. I really wish there were more available dissociatives, we need more analogs chemists! I don't really see how tolerance correlates with negative effects, even though tolerance itself might be a bad thing, but how does that equal it being substantially more harmful on the body?

 

[Darksidesam]

even though tolerance itself might be a bad thing, but how does that equal it being substantially more harmful on the body?

maybe because you are Upping the doses to achieve the same effects ^_^ ,
Thus using more chemical

 

[proxopata]

Hi Folks I have a couple of questions regarding MXE.

1. Does it make you HUNGRY AS FUCK TOO? Whenever I take MXE in low sublingual doses 15-20mg I can feel how it drains my entire energy and I'm permanently hungry - not like cannabis type munchies but proper hunger.

2. In low doses it seems to make your brain work faster, the time is running more slowly but your thoughts accelerate. Also does it increase your physical capabilities? If the brain controls the muscles, can they work faster/better if the brain is functioning 'faster'/'better'?

3. How much does the tolerance build - SMALL DOSES ONLY - 15-20mgs , sublingually, once a day?

4. Does it speed up your metabolism?

5. Does it reduce tolerance to psychedelics like DXM is said to do ?

regards prox

 

[Limitbreaker]

4 samples. 4 sources. each. different. just saying. all visually the same shade / texture. but with different tastes.

anyone else noticed this when shopping around? i dont want to start vender talk. but i think its a worthwhile "health promotion" posting.

the effects of one in particular are exactly, had i never taken a dissosiative sound like k if i hadent taken it and just thought "animal traqualizer". no hallucinations, no positive feelings. just a VERY heavy stoning. like being under water. which is suspect is not MXE at all. (one of the cheaper batches). another one i brought 5-meo-pcp from the same place. both have the same HORRIBLE taste. that is not what i have experienced with MXE from my usual (and expensive) supply.

what is going on?

either its benzo-fury-sell-people-any-shit-we-can all over again all of a sudden. or ???!

anyone else noticed this? (am in uk)

Please elaborate on the effects if you can, I'd be very thankful

 

[Darksidesam]

1. Does it make you HUNGRY AS FUCK TOO? Whenever I take MXE in low sublingual doses 15-20mg I can feel how it drains my entire energy and I'm permanently hungry - not like cannabis type munchies but proper hunger.

Yes!