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bad trips!

I thought so, I can actually analyse and explain to myself what some of the fucked things I saw mean in my life.
 
Yeah, that's usually the case. It's scary sometimes, but if you can appreciate it, and utilize the experience, things will be better in every aspect of your existence. (:
 
Bad trips are just as important as the good trips. If you can take that bad experience, reevaluate it and turn that into an experience in which you've learned something about yourself, well in that case you've turned it into something good and beneficial.
 
Not to mention the fact the both "good" and "bad" are a part of Everything, and should be treated with the same respect and awe.
 
I've had far too many bad trips to even be getting into this, but there is one in particular that I just have to describe.

Me and two friends were getting these insanely good mushrooms for so cheap it just wasn't even okay. Well one night these two friends decide to eat just an eighth we are all experienced trippers and were just going to have a personal night together. Now to explain something, these to friends and me are a rare breed of psychonauts that can't stand nature at all, however we love the cities and in particular big industrial complexes. My favorite is the shipping docks in Oakland but that's for another time. So we eat these mushrooms and we begin to wander around the medium sized industrial neighborhood a little detached from town, a friend has his skateboard and I have my old bmx bike and my other friend is just walking. Well first we decide to go to the fedex banks which is this fedex shipping center that has an awesome loading area for skating. After about two hours there we decide to smoke some ganja. After around fifteen minutes of smoking things in my world go from being very bright and child like to very dark and menacing. I know this feeling, I'm slidin into the darkened of mushroom land. I've been there before and I begin to prepare myself. Now everytime I've slid into this world it's leveled off at a very dark place in my mind. This time however it continues to dive deeper down the stars begin to blink out one by one above me and the landscape infront of me becomes dark as if I am floating in the abyss on a small island. I be one irrational telling my friends that I am going to die and hat if they ever wanted to tell me anything they needed to do it now. My friends are no longer there however. I know they are but I can't see them. I tell them I need to tell my mother I love her a die in her presence. Well I take off to the protests of my friends and begin to bike home. I am completely lost at this point. If I look down the ground begins to break and fall into infinite black and if I look forward the trees lining the street are creatures only seen in necromantic rituals. And if I look into the sky behemoths of monsterous proportions are climbing down to me as my hands dissolve into dust. I continue to tell myself I don't want to be that kid on the commercial. At one point I stopped determined to smoke a cigarette and bare through this. I light up and look up at the same time. I'm sitting on a curb having the worst mushroom trip of my life chanting that I don't want to be that kid on the commercial through gasping breathes and I realize in a moment of clarity that I am sitting in front of the county honor farm. The jail. The institution. My death. I tale off again to find my friends. I fond my way back and collapse crying at my friends feet. He says to me that I am not going to die. And I believe him. The darkness fades and I am a child again. I feel like I have been tripping and gone for hours. I ask him when sunrise is because I was still tripping hard. He says in about five hours. I had only been gone for twenty minutes. The rest of the trip was amazing. But I'll never forget that fear.
 
i recently had a bad trip on 2ce..
snorted about a 50mg line, my face was burning so bad, that i went to turn the shower on. by that time, everything in the room is moving, and i start freaking out. so i get in the shower, and sit in an upwards fetal position.. thinking the whole time i was in some kind of Japanese bath house type thing being taken care of by some nurse.. not to mention my hairy ass legs, and pubic hairs made matters worse.
i had to keep telling myself that this was all part of the 2ce, after about 30mins or so i started to chill out, and the trip was very enjoyable.
 
I've had some uncomfortable experiences; well no that's an understatement some were beyond awkward.. but i wouldn't say i've had any terrifying trips. However i did endure a period of psychosis for while during my heavy days of psychedelics... i wound up in some really strange places during that time. But it ultimately lead me to where i'm at now.. so i have much gratitude for the journey, despite how insane it was for a while. :)
 
ive done mushrooms 3 times, and everytime i got freaked out and had some intense dark emotional feelings and fear, especially on my first 2 trips. everytime though i was in my room at night, so i pretty much just layed down and waited it out. acid on the other hand, ive done many more times, including in public places. one time i would say i was close to having a full on complete breakdown. i was tripping with my friend, and we went to hang out with a couple other friends and one of there houses (they werent tripping). first mistake i made was probably smoking weed, i smoked a little and was fine, but then i took a huge 3 foot bong hit, bad idea. also i was texting with this girl that was really hurting me at the time, which was a bad idea. lastly, the girl whos house i was at's parents were kind of rednecks, and gave off bad vibes. we were in there garage smoking weed and it was just super hot and sweaty, and there was all these tools around us and i just started feeling super suffocated. so me and my friend both went out for air, and i swear i was so close to just running away (i didnt know the area well and would have gotten lost). after that we went into the dark house, which was a bad idea and freaked me out. finally we all went into the backyard, and i was sort of able to calm down, the fear and panic turned more into sadness i guess, and i just rode out the trip.
 
Don't you think a change of scene might make the mushrooms more enjoyable? Like, outside during the day? My bad shroom trip was in my room at night as well. I don't think mushrooms like that setting very much.
 
D's said:
i recently had a bad trip on 2ce..
snorted about a 50mg line, my face was burning so bad, that i went to turn the shower on. by that time, everything in the room is moving, and i start freaking out. so i get in the shower, and sit in an upwards fetal position.. thinking the whole time i was in some kind of Japanese bath house type thing being taken care of by some nurse.. not to mention my hairy ass legs, and pubic hairs made matters worse.
i had to keep telling myself that this was all part of the 2ce, after about 30mins or so i started to chill out, and the trip was very enjoyable.
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Come on man! Snorting 50 mgs of 2c-e is a recipe for disaster. Thats essentially 100 mgs orally which is a huge dose. I find 2c-e incredibly safe and even that was probably a safe dose but with no tolerance your really asking for trouble IMO. Be safe, brother!<3
Sadner said:
I took too much mescaline and pee'd my pants because I was in such a deep psychosis.
When i was conscious I didn't recognise my friends and thought they were malevolent beings. Here is a list of some of the horrible things that i thought:
I was being held captive by a serial killer
I thought i had slit my wrists.
I thought my friend and i were trapped in our drug dealer’s house and we were rotting alive.
I thought i had been captured by a Brazilian drug cartel and they had no use for me so they were going to kill me.
I thought i was trapped in between those gaps you see in subways and every time i saw light i would scream for help.
I thought i was actually a little girl and had fallen under a bridge and was drowning while other people watched. (I am male lulul).
I thought i had aged and was a disgusting old man who was delusional and pathetic.

Bad trips suck and i wish my friends could have pulled me out of it.
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Man thats crazy! It seems since you did cactus(other post)that you actually had mescaline though your trip doesn't sound that mescaline. Its a pretty strong one, just as strong as LSD in high doses although!

J.Wallace said:
Bad trips are just as important as the good trips. If you can take that bad experience, reevaluate it and turn that into an experience in which you've learned something about yourself, well in that case you've turned it into something good and beneficial.
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Yeah true. I've never had a reallllly bad trip though I've had a few physically bad trips. Those are so annoying and not good. Their the kind where your just not feeling well, maybe sweating, some bad nausea, and chills/the like. Usually it happens with certain psychedelics on the come up and fades but it can linger. Only happened 5 or so times out of hundreds.
 
Frydea said:
maybe, but i doubt it. i feel like it would have been much worse if i was somewhere unfamiliar
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Even if it's just in your backyard or along a familiar fire trail during the day, I think it would be better than having four walls enclosing you. If you're going to do them again, give it some thought, a quite low dose would be advisable to start with. I understand if you don't want to risk it though, shrooms aren't for everybody, and they have a very nasty side for sure.
 
J.Wallace said:
Bad trips are just as important as the good trips. If you can take that bad experience, reevaluate it and turn that into an experience in which you've learned something about yourself, well in that case you've turned it into something good and beneficial.
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I'm not completely buying that. Honestly, my worst psychedelic experience ever involved me taking my clothes off, getting arrested and eventually being charged for some serious shit. There was nothing to learn from that. It was an anomaly, I'd taken higher doses of the same substance before this, and have subsequently taking much higher doses after this. 8o

On the other hand, an experience which is filled with fear can be beneficial if you overcome the fear; one of the great feelings, compltely twisted on mushrooms or ayahuasca (or whatever), feeling panicked and highly uneasy, and for this feeling to resolve whilst your tripping; its like walking from a cold, black cellar into a warm, light, sweet-scented, cosy room- the sensation of relief and euphoria is almost unrivalled. :)

I do feel that experiences that are emotionally negative can sometimes be beneficial, but slipping into psychosis rarely is.
 
Help?!?! said:
Man thats crazy! It seems since you did cactus(other post)that you actually had mescaline though your trip doesn't sound that mescaline. Its a pretty strong one, just as strong as LSD in high doses although!
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All my mescaline trips have been similar to my LSD trips, i can distinguish between the two but it seems everyone else has really different mescaline trips to me. I’m 100% certain that it was always mescaline because I was the one making it from cactus every time. What are they supposed to be like?

Cactus is very cheap where I am. The trip i was explaining i got 90cm of trichocereus and 16 monstrose buttons for what i would usually pay for 2 feet. The gypsie told me it was one dose but he was obviously trolling.
 
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It's supposed to feel a lot more natural than the synthetic, electric feel of LSD. The headspace feels less trippy and a lot more focused, though the clarity of mind is similar. It feels very earthy and far more profound and authentic than LSD. Just my experience.
 
^How much would the fact we generally ingest mescaline in the form of cactus create a bias towards earthiness and profundity? I have to say, that in my experiments with mescaline, as dried cactus, cactus gunk, crystalline extract and synthetic (in that order) the sensation of a natural, gentle trip gave way to a very chemical, cyber, electronic feeling. This paralleled the increasing distance between mescaline and its source, but is really only based on bias, as in a relatively recent trip on a primitive extract, the same aritificial/chemical sensation that I experienced with synthetic and pure extract, was present....

edit: oops, massively offtopic...I thought I was in a mescaline thread all of a sudden...:)
 
A cyber electronic feeling? Wow, I can't even imagine that on mescaline. But I've only had it twice. It could be a bias placebo effect, for sure. "It's of the earth so it's going to be an organic experience." And certainly, I find I didn't like heavy rock music and didn't hugely appreciate electronic, but soundtrack, ambient, classical and anything with a tribal beat was awesome. Similarly, being in an enclosed space like a house didn't quite feel right. It was best in the open light of the natural world. Even the philosophy and view of life it helped me see was extremely naturalistic and objective. But that might just be me.

It's important to remember that synthetic mescaline doesn't have a lot of the extra alkaloids present in the actual ground-up cactus. Those alkaloids are why san pedro, peruvian torch and peyote are reportedly quite different from each other. The extract presumably contains only the mescaline.

I'm sure no one will mind a little off-topic tangent if it doesn't derail the whole thread. But I guess we could talk about bad trips on mescaline, which are few and far between and tend to result from taking way too much. On the doses I've taken, I experienced pretty much no mind-bending at all, so I'm interested to find out if this effect kicks in around 500-600mg.
 
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