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I would assume you have a fairly highly cut version of PV... If under pressure it clumps, that is a good sign, as all PV will do this (it's possible to even press into a pill, so I hear)... Just be careful mate/miss. Small mg first, then work your way up. Sounds like the vendor is stretching their supply to increase profit cutting it with weird shit (which would be totally inactive, trust me on that). No one in their right mind would cut PV with something worth more than the substance itself. So you would be pretty much safe... Just small dosages until you hit that sweet spot... IMO.
 
What AHA and AyahuascaSeeker13 have said is really good advice...always try a very small amount of a new batch to gauge its potency. I can't imagine how bad it'd be to snort a point and a half of pure stuff if you were used to heavily cut stuff. Just two puffs of pure stuff has got me looking for the emergency xanax and spending the first hour trying not have a heart attack...
 
footscrazy said:
What AHA and AyahuascaSeeker13 have said is really good advice...always try a very small amount of a new batch to gauge its potency. I can't imagine how bad it'd be to snort a point and a half of pure stuff if you were used to heavily cut stuff. Just two puffs of pure stuff has got me looking for the emergency xanax and spending the first hour trying not have a heart attack...
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^ Horrible huh! LOL Hence the advice I give to all the newbs. Always have Xanax (or similar Benzo, ANY benzo), close by to avoid really nasty shit possibly happening. :)
 
^^I'll also add that the 2 puffs footsy is talking about would be in the 2-4mg range. The amount that will fit inside an '0' is about how much pure MDPV you want in the glass pipe for starters. Pyrolysis happens very easily when vaping in a glassy. Most PeeVee smokers mix the powder through a carrier such as tobacco, bud etc. (aka 'poison mix').

It's an extremely potent chemical and it has the potential to mess you right up if you re-dose or take too much at once. Psychosis is common in intolerant users at doses around the 10mg range.

I doubt they're getting it from a vendor if it is that mild. I'd say the hook up is on our shores and BJH is getting cut down product from a local who is importing through a vendor. Even more reason not to smoke said product because the cut could be toxic when heated, heck, the cut could be toxic even without heat :\

I recommend staying the hell away from this one all together but, most people will learn their lesson with MDPV the hard way. I smoked and bumped it every day for many months and it rates very VERY low on my list. I have suffered sever psychosis from it and so have many others.

Be very careful.
 
I'm not in the habit of doing it every day, can't imagine I ever will be (but then again no one plans on it)
As stated in my MDPV thread there's been plenty of times I have racked more than .15g at a time without thinking anything of it. I'm guessing its severely cut which is lucky in that case haha. And yeah of course I always test the waters with every new batch, just like any drug. Unfortunately I can't get my hands on any good benzos, I've taken valium on a couple of comedowns but it does almost nothing.
 
Low purity could be a major factor when it comes to less compulsion to use. Everyone is different and some people can use PV sparingly. I've seen the bad side of it time and time again. I know plenty of people who can put the meth pipe down but when it comes to this substance they compulsively use until they are psychotic.

Let's hope that you don't run into any trouble :)
 
haha I'm pretty bad on it on the weekend but showing up fucked at work on Monday isn't really an option so I have that to keep me in check. I was the same with the meth pipe when I had one.Recently it seems pretty much any drug I get my hands on I give it a fair slog Friday afternoon through Sunday morning haha.
 
Many of us have been there and/or still are ;)

Although I don't recommend it, one of my most productive work days ever was done while on 2-4mg MDPV taken orally. Oral ingestion is recommended because the slower the comeup, the less likely you are to get anxiety or psychotic effects. Puffing peevee is a good way to do your head in real quick...
 
Touche me lady!

MDPV and smack (ed bottoms) is a much smoother ride than the stimulant by itself.

Even cannabis has a calming effect on the pv if you are a choofer. Bud could also make the high even worse for those who don't indulge in cannabinoids so don't smoke up on pv unless you like it in your normal mind state. G also worked to some extent. Not to mention the calming effect of good company. You can't put a price on the latter...
 
I didn't like MDPV that much. The first couple of doses were good, gave a nice confidence like cocaine does but after that the compulsion to re-dose just gets stronger and I get scattered very easily from it. I used to find small bumps at work helpful though.
 
Mr Blonde said:
compulsion to re-dose
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Not wrong. I tested the stuff I got last night, started out as "testing the waters" ended up getting pretty fucking buckled. Once you have a bit it's hard to stay away from it, especially if you've got a 4g bag sitting on the coffee table all night.
 
MDPV is the devil; insane chest pain/heart beat/nightmares not to mention the duration it keeps one awake for you begin to hallucinate, hear and think some seriously insane stuff - in high doses though. Definitely a powerful stimulant yet easy to abuse if one has a large quantity hence its reputation for addiction.

What I found so interesting about MDPV is the intense demonic forces of the self it reveals - like MDMA where you experience love, energy, empathy, joy, confidence etc you experience the extreme opposite on MDPV (in high doses). One occasion I recall was in Sydney, never had I encountered such angst and drug fuelled hatred due to the horror of MdPV. Again, a good pick-me-up and vital to witness yourself as the devil - you need to first hand confront your demons in order to move beyond it - personally I think most drugs can change the outlook of life depending on the person and frame of mind using it.
 
A dose high enough to make one shivering outside the Arc club in Sydney, rocking back and forth across the street, randomly wandering and running all over Sydney streets seeing people chase you with strollers (why?) as you are screaming "Stop following me!" only to come back to the backpackers hearing your best friends voice whisper all over the walls and windows "dude!" and "mate!" and "faggot!" at 6:30 am in the morning...

Also, I know of a friend who dosed so high he ended up naked, in the corner of his room, hearing voices through the walls as he clenched onto his erection screaming "this is all worth it!" at some insane hour of the morning.

Hell.
 
basalamant said:
MDPV is the devil; insane chest pain/heart beat/nightmares not to mention the duration it keeps one awake for you begin to hallucinate, hear and think some seriously insane stuff - in high doses though. Definitely a powerful stimulant yet easy to abuse if one has a large quantity hence its reputation for addiction.

What I found so interesting about MDPV is the intense demonic forces of the self it reveals - like MDMA where you experience love, energy, empathy, joy, confidence etc you experience the extreme opposite on MDPV (in high doses). One occasion I recall was in Sydney, never had I encountered such angst and drug fuelled hatred due to the horror of MdPV. Again, a good pick-me-up and vital to witness yourself as the devil - you need to first hand confront your demons in order to move beyond it - personally I think most drugs can change the outlook of life depending on the person and frame of mind using it.
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Well, I might as well throw in this little gem. I was on 3 to 5 day journey with PV riding shotgun and I was sitting at my desktop computer, headphones on listening to some rather somber music and I hear clear as if someone was standing right behind me in the most sinister, slick voice imaginable, " Why would I have to make a deal with you when you doing all of the hard work on your own". Now I have my eyes closed when I hear this and immediately see myself on the edge of an abyss, and just go over the edge and free fall into the black. Needless to say it left me shaken. This was a while back and had some major losses occur in my life, that were PV related, so obviously my mind was in "precarious" state. As bad as this experience was it did shake me loose from a self-destructive path and a self-defeating mindset. This drug is wily one. It can take you places in the depths that you never thought existed. That being said, be safe, watch your dose, length of using, etc and be prepared to face to some "interesting" stuff.;)
 
SDBF said:
Well, I might as well throw in this little gem. I was on 3 to 5 day journey with PV riding shotgun and I was sitting at my desktop computer, headphones on listening to some rather somber music and I hear clear as if someone was standing right behind me in the most sinister, slick voice imaginable, " Why would I have to make a deal with you when you doing all of the hard work on your own". Now I have my eyes closed when I hear this and immediately see myself on the edge of an abyss, and just go over the edge and free fall into the black. Needless to say it left me shaken. This was a while back and had some major losses occur in my life, that were PV related, so obviously my mind was in "precarious" state. As bad as this experience was it did shake me loose from a self-destructive path and a self-defeating mindset. This drug is wily one. It can take you places in the depths that you never thought existed. That being said, be safe, watch your dose, length of using, etc and be prepared to face to some "interesting" stuff.;)
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Haha you... are one of us who know "all too much"?
 
My experiences on mdpv

Hello, this is my first post on this site. I thought I'd share my experiences with this drug with you. I first started using Mdpv in November last year. I used it almost daily for 7 months before taking a break. I went from using a gram every three days to using a gram a day (all with my girlfriend of course). This was 99.97% pure mdpv. I love it. I am a speed freak and I love it more than meth. One night I had been up for about 6 days straight. I hade a bunch of glass heat railers. I was trying to fix then with a torch. I was so out of it that I kept busting them and They would magically grow back. I didn't think this was the least bit odd and in fact I thought it was amazing. I ended up passing out or something and I was shocked to wake finding them all busted. I couldn't believe this because I plainly saw then grow back together lol. After several months of using I would start hearing little taps and peck on the side of my house. Another month and I was hearing noises and thuds on the side of my house. It progressed in this fashion until I heard and saw people trying to break in my house, steel my computers and iPod, and trying to murder me. I knew my girlfriend was in on this and was the ring leader. This went on for months. I was permanently scared for my life, I might add I haven't yet stopes mdpv at this time. I would run around outside all through the knight with knives and hatchets calling them out and calling them pussys. I swore they must of been on some king off speed because they was always there, day and night, for weeks on end. Or I thought they was taking shifts. My last night of using I went to take a shower. As soon as I got in, they was trying to get me. I jumped out of the shower, put on a pair of pants that was extremely to large, and started running to the woods. It was dark out, I had no shows on, no shirt, no underwear, lost my glasses, and I had no belt so my pants was constantly falling down. I was running for my life. I was so scared I pissed a little (but you'd never tell because of all the creeks I ran through) and I couldn't stop throwing up. The cops ended up picking me up in the woods because my mom called 911 so they was out looking for me. See I'm on probation so I can't use any drugs so my mom and I said I was bi-polar and off my meds, witch was both true. But I've been off my meds for years. They took me to the hospital and sent me to a psych ward for a week and let me out. It took months before the paranoia stoped. I have been off of it for 5 months. I love the stuff. In fact I have 8 grams ordered that will be here tomorrow. I'm sure it'll go beret this time around because I've learned a valuable experience. I just want to point out that I started snorting 15 mg at a time at the beginning, and by the end I was snorting and heat railing lines of (no lie, I developed an extremely high tolerance) 100 mg. I would also like to say that I've had three strokes on this stuff, and they hurt. This is my favorite drug in the world and I don't plane on sopping using it. If your gonna use it please be very careful. 15 mg is enough to get u tweaked until you build a tolerance to it. I was a heavy daily user and to me it still seemed that the tolerance built up pretty slowly. As for other Stims, I still get geeked on meth, lisdexamfetamine, and Ritalin. So no change there. Just be careful, and have fun.
 
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