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Switching to PURE Racemic Methamphetamine instead of Adderall?

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Addyman

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My euphoria tolerance to Adderall is 30mg-40mg+ of IR to have the slightest effect

My therapeutic tolerance to Adderall is 10mg-20mg of IR to have the slightest effect

I'm prescribed Adderall, but I don't get enough of it in my prescription (and I doubt my psych will raise it)

Does anyone think I'd have beneficial ADHD therapeutic effects (as in, it will help me on my work like Adderall)

I was planning to start at 10mg, 15mg-20mg if 10mg didn't work, the 25mg-30mg cap was more for if I develop significant tolerance

I just assumed it was racemic

UNDERLINED is why it is pure
You have to think of basic economics here. Almost all of America's meth supply passes through THIS city (right next to mexico border, NOT san diego)
You have SO much supply compared to demand...dealers aren't going to cut it because their buyers are frequent buyers, and this is a small city. If you sell uber-cut Meth here... your reputation is fucked and permanently known as "the guy sells cut meth" and you'll RARELY get a buyer at all, if ever.
It is crystal, only, by the way
I've done purity tests for people (can't say method on here, I don't think)

I'd save so much money... instead of paying for a Psych visit + Adderall prescription that hardly works

Let me sum it up again
10mg-20mg (up to 30mg if 20mg-25mg doesn't work)
of PURE Racemic Methamphetamine orally ingested, do you think it would help my ADHD as well, or better, than 10mg-20mg of Adderall IR... in terms of concentration/doing my homework etc.
 
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Meth is never pure unless you get it from the cook...and you're REALLY in good with the cook lmao...

When I smoked street dope It would take 2 points minimum to get something worth it. And it was really pricey as well...I know prices aren't allowed but it was about twice the price of coke around here...

And I'm not sure if it would help you...I could never get anything done on it...
 
I've done acetone tests for friends

Not to mention, when I say the dealer is the middleman for the cartels, I mean that literally

I'm in the armpit of America, less than 10-15 miles away from the Mexico border
 
No one requires street methamphetamine to treat ADHD and the risks and of this far outweigh the benefits - it's not even remotely close.
 
PURE d-meth is what, approx 5x the potency of amphetamine? It's something in that ballpark. So if you get therapeutic effects from 20mg adderall, 5mg of d-meth, 10mg of racemic meth, would be plenty. Meth is fucking potent stuff - the reason you hear of people taking such massive doses of it is that frequent users can rapidly build a huge tolerance, and are also using with the goal of getting high as rocket powered kites.

Of course, a few caveats:

1) Racemic meth?! Who the fuck makes racemic meth nowadays? 99% of meth is made from pseudoephedrine, which produces d-meth, not the racemate. The racemate is the product of a reaction scheme that starts without the amine on the beta carbon (traditionally made from phenylacetone, which is of course now tightly restricted). I can't think of any other routes to meth that would produce racemic meth.

2) Street meth is NEVER pure! Meth trade cuts their product more than the coke business, it's a really sketchy industry, even for the drug trade.

3) Don't use adderall recreationally if you want to use it therapeutically. Same goes for meth actually - the two are strongly crosstolerant (and crosstolerant with most other stimulants as well.

4) Used without caution, meth is a good way to boost your tolerance to stimulants, and fuck up your life hardcore; be extremely fucking careful with it. If I were doing this (which I considered before I realized I could just visit the psych and get a script, and let insurance pick up almost all of the bill - only i'd cook the meth myself if I was going to, since I don't trust street meth. Of course, when I realized I could just get a script, the choice not to try this was a no-brainer), I would probably* have to get creative to manage the dose measurement. Maybe liquid dosing? The stuff is stable indefinitely in solution.

5) I think using meth instead of adderall just to save money is probably a bad idea, in that when you get more money, you'll have trouble switching back (you'll likely end up raising your tolerance, but the psych will be like "well you were one 20mg before, so that's what we're giving you now", and if you admit to the psych what you did to save money, you'll be blacklisted for sure.

*Well, I would, if I didn't have a scale accurate to 0.1mg that I rescued from ebay (Only $75! Can you believe it? Accuracy is great too. Only problem is that the display is hard to read.
 
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If I knew how to keep just the D-Methamp and get rid of the L-Methamp I'd just take 5-10mg max 15mg and treat it as Desoxyn

I was planning to start at 10mg, 15mg-20mg if 10mg didn't work, the 25mg-30mg cap was more for if I develop significant tolerance

I just assumed it was racemic, the meth here is made in Mexico... and it is crystal form... always...
The supply here

You have to think of basic economics here. Almost all of America's meth supply passes through THIS city (right next to mexico border, NOT san diego)

You have SO much supply compared to demand...dealers aren't going to cut it because their buyers are frequent buyers, and this is a small city. If you sell uber-cut Meth here... your reputation is fucked and permanently known as "the guy sells cut meth" and you'll RARELY get a buyer at all, if ever.

I've done purity tests for people (can't say method on here, I don't think)
 
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TheAzo said:
2) How exactly do you think you're going to get pure meth? Meth is notorious for being cut (though crystal is usually pretty close, from what i've heard, being as it's hard to make convincing crystals that aren't pure).
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MSM=horse vitamin...MSM+water+microwave=crystal

there's other ways as well...
 
oops : o

I didn't go into detail on how to do it...just gave basic outline...sorry if I broke rules.
 
It's a gray area - if someone started a thread and asked how to cut their product, they'd probably get called an asshole and worse for a dozen posts then it'd be closed. Understanding what drug cuts are commonly used and how the cutting is done can have harm reduction value.

Outlining how to test for purity is certainly not against the rules and if you explained how you did it and showed your results, perhaps people wouldn't think you're projecting your claims out of the other end of your GI tract.
 
Simple test (Not uber-accurate)
Melt in pipe, if it takes under 3 seconds to snap back... it is typically of good quality

Typical purification
Get Anhydrous Methanol and Get/make Anhydrous Acetone
Do a typical Meth acetone wash, what stays in the filter is what you want
Dry it

OPTIONAL, after typical purification
Take product, dissolve in Anhydrous Methanol

Slowly dry in a well ventilated area

Do 1 more acetone wash

let filter dry
 
You know a lot for someone that hasn't done this before lol...or is google your friend?

Around here if it cracks back in 10 seconds its typically good...not necessarily superb...but good...
 
This is stupid as all hell

Unless you have a GC/MS or LC trace, melting point reading, or even a fucking polarimeter reading, assume street meth is D, and assume it's impure as fuck.

Methamphetamine "purification" is not as simple as a wash.

Here's a better one that the UN uses.
A mixture known to contain methamphetamine: Add in a beaker 25 mg of sample
to 20 ml of a 2:1 mixture of chloroform and hexane, and concentrate the solution
to approximately half the original volume. Add diethyl ether to precipitate
the methamphetamine. Filter, dry and obtain IR spectrum (methamphetamine
hydrochloride).
A mixture known to contain methamphetamine, pseudoephedrine, and ephedrine:
Place 100 mg of sample in a piece of filter paper and wash with 40 ml of a 3:1
mixture of chloroform and hexane. Wash the insoluble portion with chloroform,
and dry and recover for examination (ephedrine hydrochloride). Evaporate the
original solute to dryness and divide into two equal portions. Dissolve one half
of this sample in 20 ml of a 2:1 mixture of chloroform and hexane, concentrate
to approximately half the original volume, and add diethyl ether to precipitate the
methamphetamine. Filter, dry and obtain IR spectrum (methamphetamine
hydrochloride). Dissolve the other half of the sample in 2 ml of chloroform and
add 1.6 ml of hexane to precipitate the pseudoephedrine. Filter, dry and obtain
IR spectrum (pseudoephedrine hydrochloride).
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Doug2113 said:
You know a lot for someone that hasn't done this before lol...or is google your friend?

Around here if it cracks back in 10 seconds its typically good...not necessarily superb...but good...
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I learned from family members
They like to tell stories and I would ask questions like "howd u know it was pure"

Btw seriously; NO I will not assume its impure as fk

When I did washes I never got a change in amount of product

I live in a peculiar place; purity is something unconditionally HIGH here

Come over to El Centro or Calexico in California

You will see what I mean
 
This is getting off topic
I don't want fucking purification methods or debates when both parties are conversely biased

I want my question answered

You can harrass me on how I know things via PM
 
I...wasn't...trying...to harass you? O.o

And I did answer you. Street meth will not help your ADD...it will be too strong.

And on the economics bit...fiends don't care as long as it has something in it...meth has a VERY strong psychological hold on people.
 
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