You need to get some better weed or some better rolls. People around where I live love tripping hard and this is a pretty popular combo. There are plenty of good reports on it around the web, too.
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You need to get some better weed or some better rolls. People around where I live love tripping hard and this is a pretty popular combo. There are plenty of good reports on it around the web, too.
el diablo918
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Could you show me some websites i've spent hours on google to no avail
Gladly. I won't be able to find everything out there but I'll see what I can do.
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=37874
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=16727
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=66684
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=384
MDMA alone, obviously enhanced by weed:
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/197722-MDMA-comedown-LSD-like-visuals
I'll try to find some more later, I'm getting ready to hit the sack right now. You mostly see people talking about it though, rather than posting trip reports. You gotta look through good MDMA threads to find people mentioning it.
jamaica0535
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Still a synthetic cannabinoid.... and it was a response to
"They DO the same thing as weed"
Structure determines functionality. My point is that synthetic cannabis vary drastically in how they behave in the body.
4fOhmeohmy
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Jamaica0535 is entirely right. I've been on a good stint with synthetic cannabanoids and the different jwh analogs all do very different things from eachother. 250 is by far the best IMO but a trip like the one op described seems like just an overdone tri-flip. The human brain is insane in it's versatility to use a substance in a way no one expected and with the many serotonin effectors in the body I'm not surprised. But nothing like that has ever happened to me on good old fashioned cannabis. Its always just helped my come down.
Yes, structure determines functionality. And HU-211's structure makes it a NMDA antagonist that doesn't effect cannabinoid receptors. So for the sake of this argument, it's not a cannabinoid. The point is that CB agonists have similar effects, people generally don't call something a synthetic cannabinoid in terms of drug effects if it doesn't have cannabinoid effects. People don't smoke synthetic cannabinoids because they like their chemical structures....
You're missing out then. Some of the best nights of my life were smoking bowl after bowl with friends after we'd come down from some strong rolls and go walking through a dark forest. Makes for some crazy psychedelic delirium. I've tried many synthetic cannabinoids too and they are all different but they're still cannabinoid highs, I've felt undeniable similarities between all of them. I will agree that 250 is the best JWH though (that I've tried anyway, I hear 122 is better).
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jamaica0535
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Unless someone puts a powerful NDMA antagonist in your spice, you smoke it and instead of stoned you go into a state like a k-hole for a while.
People would smoke it and be like "man i got so fucked up from that spice"
The point is that the subtle structure differences in the JWH series, and other chems that are put in spice make them all significantly different. Different dosages, binding affinities and minor actions elsewhere in the mind and body, different metabolic products... It gets you high, but there are a lot of different kinds of high, some amazing and others scary. And the simple fact is that we don't fully understand the JWH compounds and what else they do other than being cannabinoid agonist.
The man that made them expresses concern over safety. That alone justifies concern over safety, especially when you have no idea what your smoking. Might not even be JWH, could just as easily be an AM, RCS, URB, or WIN. These other types of cannabinoids are going to surge in popularity with the JWH becoming more and more restricted.
URB-597, I think it was acts by inhibiting the enzyme that breaks down endogenous cannabinoids already present in our bodies to a degree that results in them accumulating enough for psychoactive effects.... Sort of like an MAOI type action targeted at endogenous cannabinoids.
And people not liking chemical structures, its more a lack of appreciation they deserve? If they like getting high, they damn well should appreciate the chemical structures that get them there. We are nothing but a culmination of chemical reactions and electrical impulses so expansive that it goes beyond all our comprehensions. When you start throwing outside influences into the equation, it doesn't matter what drug it is, a single atom can be the difference between it being inactive or having a dosage in micrograms, a fluoroacetate metabolite that could be lethal or a novel neuroprotective drug.
People would smoke it and be like "man i got so fucked up from that spice"
The point is that the subtle structure differences in the JWH series, and other chems that are put in spice make them all significantly different. Different dosages, binding affinities and minor actions elsewhere in the mind and body, different metabolic products... It gets you high, but there are a lot of different kinds of high, some amazing and others scary. And the simple fact is that we don't fully understand the JWH compounds and what else they do other than being cannabinoid agonist.
The man that made them expresses concern over safety. That alone justifies concern over safety, especially when you have no idea what your smoking. Might not even be JWH, could just as easily be an AM, RCS, URB, or WIN. These other types of cannabinoids are going to surge in popularity with the JWH becoming more and more restricted.
URB-597, I think it was acts by inhibiting the enzyme that breaks down endogenous cannabinoids already present in our bodies to a degree that results in them accumulating enough for psychoactive effects.... Sort of like an MAOI type action targeted at endogenous cannabinoids.
And people not liking chemical structures, its more a lack of appreciation they deserve? If they like getting high, they damn well should appreciate the chemical structures that get them there. We are nothing but a culmination of chemical reactions and electrical impulses so expansive that it goes beyond all our comprehensions. When you start throwing outside influences into the equation, it doesn't matter what drug it is, a single atom can be the difference between it being inactive or having a dosage in micrograms, a fluoroacetate metabolite that could be lethal or a novel neuroprotective drug.
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