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Injecting crystal methamphetamine

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Good call on the water info, So, is the only place I can buy that is online? I can not walk into a local pharmacy or what not and buy it? Lame if that is the case, I guess I will stick with distilled water for now its the cleanest I can find till they come in mail. Besides of course (next best thing) lol
 
Dude I get those shakes as well, it's just nerves from missing or from just knowing all the potential anxiety that it will cause, at least during the comedown. When I used to shoot it I'd have to breath really slowly and never push the plunger fast so I'd get a rush. I would push it only 1/3rd the way at first, wait 10 secs, then do the rest slowly so I'd feel no rush at all. That's the only way I could inject without shaking from anxiety/nerves.
 
RIGHT!?!? It is like one day I am fine and then the next day comes and its a no go due to the anxiety... So I do have one issue, I made the mistake (after reading so many poeple saying rotate veins") and on the top of my forearm i don't know if I went to deep or just used it to many times. ( I just feel like when I hit if I go to the same spot it hits everytime that night. And well there is a hard mass (feels like a ball of tight muscle) where I injected. I used 29gauge 1/2 inch bd I believe. it has beem about 4 days and it has gotten smaller but seems to be at a stand stil for the past 2 days. Any one have any idea or recommendations? It isnt like a normal missed shit its harder and feels like I can moce it under my skin. no pain really, no swelling or redness either....
 
@Ziggo it is really hard to make my self do a quick jab at first to get it in its like I feel I am going to be to strong and go to deep so I prolly do it the most painful way and slowly insert it into skin...lol anyone have any technique hints to master this? And how long did it take you guys to master it so that you really never miss? I have been shooting bout 3 months almost everyother day to 3 days, sometimes a week straight(when I am lucky...JK) I eat, take vitamens, drink tons of water and average any wher from 3-7 hours of sleep a night, veins are good size too
 
drink lots of water and relax for a minute or two before doing your shot. youre thinking about it to much and youre bodys reacting to that. just relax, and it should be a guaranteed go.
 
Thanks that was the thing that helped, now...( as you guys roll your eyes) I have the shakes gone, but cant register for the LIFE of me. I used a technique someone said by right when you get the tip in pull back gentley so that as soon as it hit a vein I will know, and for the first one i registered right away BUT when I went to push in there def was resistance, at least it felt like it, and I am SO not ok with missing another shot that I pulled out right away. No marks, bubbles or anything. I was shoooting the vein next to thumb on left hand, the big yet not rolling one. Is it 45 degree angle or 30, i am reading everything from its supposed to be parralell wit your arm to its a 45angle? i swear it was never thing hard the past 3 months... i just want to get it off ONE time..lol Thank goodness I don't sit and dig or get real pissed, then we would have a problem
help anyone?
 
what gauge needle are you using? i find there's resistance on occasion with the finer tips such as 30 and 31g. personally i use a 27g and never have problems registering nor pushing the plunger down.

different brands, different all round quality as well. for example i picked up a pack of exell comfort points, 31g and their plungers can be very stiff and i've occasionally had problems registering because i'm assuming when puncturing the skin the bevel has been blocked. their overall quality control is reasonably ok but nothing in comparison to Terumo, my preferred and favourite brand.
 
I am using 29gauge and I sent my gf to get me a 10 pack and they told her that they could not give her 29g unless she buys a whole box cause they hadn't open any 29g boxes yet. I am just a little confused, if they can't open a box to sell in pack how will they ever open a box? LOL sorry being an asshole. So she bought a box of thm and I wont be needing any soon but they are Walgreens brand super thing 29g 1/2 inch. I feel like when I went in last time they were BD brand. So you recommend trying a different brand? I too notice RANDOM equipment from this box the plunger is a tougher then the others in the box... some seem to have a slight deformation ( not sure what you would call it) it is like some of them sat in the sun and started to warp just a little or something like that. But if getting another brand helps this situation I am going there tomorrow...lol

I would think that a 27g would leave a hefty mark on ya, or make it harder to miss but I def see how it could be getting clogged on insertion cause I go realllllllll slow, I could go a little faster but after missing a time or two i am afraid of going right through, isn't that what they say? They say the smaller gauge the easier to hit? I have/had lol I think pretty nice veins, I know I fucked some up but my arm is full of them budging out. People who shoot would be jealous but I envy the ones that have little veins and hit every time. How long did it take you to get to the point that you would hit every time? I feel like I was there and now I just suck! I think it was that my veins were so big there wasnt a way to miss
Thanks for the help.
 
a lot of people are seem to think that 27g is over board; they're not and they leave little to no mark. proper technique will leave you with a mark no worse than a 30-31g. it comes down to experience and technique. i'm not a needle fiend as i was, but when i go on a bender for a week or two on whatever im IVing i will have a slight track mark up the crook of my as i've been lazy and not rotated. they dissipate with a few days.

i'm like you and have nice healthy protruding veins on both arms, calves and in the extremities which are a last resort i've never ventured to beause i have good IV technique. i actually used a 22g for an oxy shot which are reserved for IM use and it left fuck all of mark.

what brand was the boxx\ of sharps you order. terumo 27g 1cc insulin is he holy grsil
 
disposition said:
what gauge needle are you using? i find there's resistance on occasion with the finer tips such as 30 and 31g. personally i use a 27g and never have problems registering nor pushing the plunger down.

different brands, different all round quality as well. for example i picked up a pack of exell comfort points, 31g and their plungers can be very stiff and i've occasionally had problems registering because i'm assuming when puncturing the skin the bevel has been blocked. their overall quality control is reasonably ok but nothing in comparison to Terumo, my preferred and favourite brand.
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I have had some trouble plunging with 31G's but only the 1/2CC model. I think the 1CC model has yet to fail me.

It typically happens the last few units of the shot, mostly blood from what I can see.

Anyways - I only use 31's and it still works fine for IV methamphetamine for me. :)
 
I have never tried a 31g I have always thought that my solution ouldl be to thick for that size equipment. And I am def not a fan of the 1/2 cc those were just hard to hang on to. I might try a 27g and 31g just to see if I get better luck. I thought I had found my match with the 29g super thin , and I might have but the brand of these are Walgreens so I am guessing the quality isnt AS good as it could be As I am noticing that they are have different resistance when pushing pluger(even when not in vein)

,. No biggie she doesn't know the first thing about this ROA actually she just know the size and CC I like but wishes I wouldn't do it this way. Hey, she tried, righ? I giess that is why shouldnt send her to do my dirty work. LOL

But last night I found a vein that has NOT been touched once, that crook of the elbow that everyone always talks about, ya know the one where you have to twist you arm to get... only thing is i couldnt twist long enough in a comfy position to make it happen. Oh it was a tease, a huge plump blood filled vein when I have not shot in 4 days almost I think. ( but dont think I didn't try the past couple daya) and i couldn't find a position. I will try today since I didnt even make contact to get even the smallest register.

ANy tips on how to get that one or a good position? thanks agian
 
i havehad this problem with my veins, missing shots from moving the needle too much, shaky, and just colapsed veins, what i do to make sure i register and hit my vein it carefully put the needle in my vein, clamp it in place tight, and have a friend register gently and push all in while i clamp the needle tight and hold it in place so it dont sliop out my vein
 
That is a good idea the only thing is that I really dont do it with others....only every now and then,no one really knows I do it this way(sad I know.) The ones that actually know I do this activity at all (and i am sure I am in denial about how many know) don't know my preferred method is this. My gf is the one I am normally around and she rarley even does the "activity at all and hates the way I do it. I think I might be able to talk her into doin that tho, I would feel like an ass but man, gotta do what you gotta do, plus its probably better then sticking myself over and over. I swear I cant remember the last time i was able to hit.... i feel like I get in but I think by that time i have clogged the point cause trying to pull and register is so hard, I need to try 27g and a better brand. These aren't working for me.
 
I have never used or even tried any veins in my legs at all. everything I have read says stay away, but wouldnt you have more control since you have bothe hands? any pointers? special tips for locations? I saw the diagram but would prefer personal experience better. And no worries I wouldn't even think of shooting in the femvein (groin) i think that is the name or part of it...lol
 
opiatekrzy said:
i havehad this problem with my veins, missing shots from moving the needle too much, shaky, and just colapsed veins, what i do to make sure i register and hit my vein it carefully put the needle in my vein, clamp it in place tight, and have a friend register gently and push all in while i clamp the needle tight and hold it in place so it dont sliop out my vein
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This works well in my experience. I've always been a shaky person in general so I tend to slip around when trying to inject.
What I usually do is, tie off, get it in the vein, release tie, register, hold the needle steady & have a friend work the plunger.
It seems to help. So you could always try having a friend help. I use 31g 5/16" 1cc of varying brands.
 
chrystian_cross23 said:
I have never used or even tried any veins in my legs at all. everything I have read says stay away, but wouldnt you have more control since you have bothe hands? any pointers? special tips for locations? I saw the diagram but would prefer personal experience better. And no worries I wouldn't even think of shooting in the femvein (groin) i think that is the name or part of it...lol
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IME, way too tricky. I have successfully used leg veins in the past, but I won't attempt doing so again. For the record - I wouldn't use a leg vein for meth; I was injecting buprenorphine.
 
Yea. I mean don't get me wrong when I have been trying to get one off for an hour the legs start to look pretty tempting but I have yet to even try a stick the gear into skin. Lol I read up and from what all I have read the legs are a place you want to steer clear of. I haven't been that desperate and I don't see myself ever getting to that point. Shit, half the time when I'm taking for ever I barley have even punctures my arm but three times in that hour. Let's just say after reading all about it I would rather not get to ahead of myself and go straight to an artery. On that note. I asked earlier but didn't see any answers.... 45 degree angle , 30degree or shallow at insertion then deeper? I have read that all these differnt angles are best for proper iv use but what do you guys think? I have a lotta questions I know, I apologize now lol I just like to have as much knowledge as possible. I have missed a couple shots and would like to prevent any future as well as master the correct technique.


Also. I think when penetrating the skin the gear is often getting clogged, cause when I try and register it is quite difficult to pull back. I know it could be different kinda of tips cause we touched on this earlier but also I insert at a really slow pace compared to the person that did my first shot ever. Could that be a possibility why it gets clogged so often?

Thanks again
 
Shallow angle = less chance of popping straight through the vein and missing your shot, but steeper angle = larger entry point in the vein and therefore less damage...
 
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