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How High is North America? v. Higher than South America

back on my suboxone tomorrow. one other thing that i have read on here but have not found to be true at least for me anyways..... when i switch from my oxy/opana habit over to the suboxone i never seem to get the instant w/d's that i hear being talked about. and i dont wait t a long time to switch it up at all. obviously i try to wait as long as possible cuz of things ive read and stuff but i have waited as little time as just a couple hours from oxy to subs (basically cuz i was trying to go to sleep). do other people out there tend to fall in line with me on this or the other way...

I don't have a lot of experience with subos, usually a super last ditch effort for me if i have to when sick, but I'd say I'm the complete opposite from what you mentioned. I remember the first time I had any I knew practically nothing about what I was doing and I blew 2mg and ate 2mg (half of an 8 ). It was maybe 8 hours after my last dose. I had only taken about 30 or 40mg of oxy the night before so I thought nothing of it at all, and it was the next morning after getting a few solid hours of sleep so it didn't feel like that close of a time frame. Figured I'd be fine. Man I don't think I've ever felt that sick before in my life. Shitty ass day. Heh, I threw up on a drive up ATM and all over the bathroom in a grocery store (among a few other less stupid places that day). Haven't taken them too much but usually I will give myself a whole day after that experience.
 
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Have been noddin since 2 in the afternoon till now at 11 at night off of 3 caps of the most fire heroin ive ever picked up from my boy.
 
I don't have a lot of experience with subos, usually a super last ditch effort for me if i have to when sick, but I'd say I'm the complete opposite from what you mentioned. I remember the first time I had any I knew practically nothing about what I was doing and I blew 2mg and ate 2mg (half of an 8). It was maybe 8 hours after my last dose. I had only taken about 30 or 40mg of oxy the night before so I thought nothing of it at all, and it was the next morning after getting a few solid hours of sleep so it didn't feel like that close of a time frame. Figured I'd be fine. Man I don't think I've ever felt that sick before in my life. Shitty ass day. Heh, I threw up on a drive up ATM and all over the bathroom in a grocery store (among a few other less stupid places that day). Haven't taken them too much but usually I will give myself a whole day after that experience.

So do you think that it was precipitated withdrawals, or that the dose was too high causing you to be sick?

I know a few people that got really sick from taking suboxone, but they really can't recall how soon they took it after their last dose of whatever opiate they had taken prior. They didn't know about precipitated withdrawals at the time, so looking back at it years later, they can't really remember the time frame.

As for me, I am on the nod. This is probably the quickest I have nodded after sniffing 2 bags of some D.
 
So do you think that it was precipitated withdrawals, or that the dose was too high causing you to be sick?

I know a few people that got really sick from taking suboxone, but they really can't recall how soon they took it after their last dose of whatever opiate they had taken prior. They didn't know about precipitated withdrawals at the time, so looking back at it years later, they can't really remember the time frame.

As for me, I am on the nod. This is probably the quickest I have nodded after sniffing 2 bags of some D.

I would have to say it was precipitated withdrawals, even though it was years ago. I have gotten sick from high doses of things before, I know how that feels. And it was a pretty high dose I suppose, I never take 4mg even now if I have some, but man I just felt like death. Even when puking from high doses (I still do that to myself once in a great while with opanas and dope, I always like to go back and do more even when I shouldn't) I still feel all warm and cozy and high as shit then my stomach acts up on me for a sec, and I'm back to nod land when my face is out of the toilet. That time with the suboxone I just felt totally and absolutely sick to the point where I ended up curling up on the couch and eventually found my way to my bed later in the day.
 
:X So whatever <snip> worker wrapped my shit fucking did it INSIDE OUT so most of the H never even made it into the balloon, and what did was all over the place, basically an empty bag. So open the next one, but I was so pissed there was some, uh, user error in my waterlining...so depending on how well this kicks in I may haveta do another balloon. Fuuuuuuuuuuuck. I do have some pastis to drink (green anise liqueur, it's 90 proof, tastes like black licorice) to potentiate at least, haven't had any that stuff in a while) at least.

chemist said:
so, i tried tar the other day, just waterlined small amounts until i felt it. we got a 40 piece, and i havent touched opiates for a little bit (like my last post you see me mention them, that's the last time), so i was dissapointed when i realized that i had done about 10-15 worth of the piece and not nodding uncontrollably.

my water lining technique (i did this 3x thru a 1.5hr span) involved minimal heat to soften the tar and mix it with 1-2 fingertip droplets of water, when i inhaled the tar thru my nose, i used enough suction to settle it in my sinus cavities without getting any nasty drip.

Luckily you're not the only waterliner on here. Good news and bad news: the good, I find the best way to waterline is to get a rig, go through the cooking process just like you're gonna shoot, then just squirt it up your nose 5~10 units at a time till done. Bad news, a lot of socal tar (at least what I've gotten, live in the far east LA county where it meets San Bernadino county) will not get you nodding uncontrollably off any less than 2 bags intranasal. I mean, 1-1.5 might get you a slight] nod. The only effective way to get where you want off of that amount is going to by using alcohol/benzos to potentiate (pretty cheap to do), or boot it (I'm still not comfortable with the idea of IV-ing black, even though I am acquainted with the needle...maybe I'll get me some micron filters then do it). Unless of course you can find some of higher potency.
 
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^ I know this is a "how high" thread, but you can't be giving advice like that. The heroin/alcohol/benzo type combos are extremely dangerous, and advising someone to IV are all things that are against the interest of harm reduction. Way too many people die by combining CNS depressants, and it sure as hell isn't a good idea to start shooting up.
 
since yesterday i went to a free music fest, drank like a fish, smoked like a chimney (both tobacco + blueberry haze), and blew 10mg adderall.

now that my head hurts and i want to go back to bed:
coffee
moar blueberry haze
2mg bupe - nasal
1.5mg klonopin - sublingual

should be chilling for the day. <3 not having a bupe tolerance
 
rock monster said:
AAYYYYOOOO team nod wuz good?

Wass good? A balloon o' black up the nose (and I've been indulging in liquor, the main reason/excuse why I broke my don't use dope more than 2 days in a row rule). Din't take the blow that comes with, since I'm not shooting atm, saving those up to make a nice fat line.

Anyway, a query. Rock, you're a fellow black user, I've never chased it (well I tried once and failed, but that was some seriously sticky/gooey shit I cold copped at 2 in the morning), is the high worth it? I know it's shorter and more intense, but like, if I chased would one bag get me nodding good if it'd take at least 2 bags waterlined to do so? The lack of potency with these things is making me think about screwing my fear of shooting a solution that isn't perfectly clear so I can get a better high for my money, for seriously.
 
Wass good? A balloon o' black up the nose (and I've been indulging in liquor, the main reason/excuse why I broke my don't use dope more than 2 days in a row rule). Din't take the blow that comes with, since I'm not shooting atm, saving those up to make a nice fat line.

Anyway, a query. Rock, you're a fellow black user, I've never chased it (well I tried once and failed, but that was some seriously sticky/gooey shit I cold copped at 2 in the morning), is the high worth it? I know it's shorter and more intense, but like, if I chased would one bag get me nodding good if it'd take at least 2 bags waterlined to do so? The lack of potency with these things is making me think about screwing my fear of shooting a solution that isn't perfectly clear so I can get a better high for my money, for seriously.

ok bro ill break it down. chasing v. snorting. so i never liked snorting black for obvious reasons mkay. plus whenever i wouldnt have a lighter and id really wana get some dope in my system i'd snort it, and i could NEVER feel the dope when i'd snort it. honestly when i snort the dope thehigh is nonexistent. so chasing>>>snorting is how i see it





oh btw, im getting well already, smoked almost a .1, feeling that dope body feeling.

nodded out for a couple hours, came off the nod and popped 2mgs klonopin. folks, klonopin is a helluva drug


now i popped a few more mgs kpin, acquired a .15 balloon, popped some dph. gona be all nodin soon
 
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after my 2 classes today i popped 1 mg bupe and .5mg klonopin

now im laying in bed and blowing through my last 3.5 20mg adderall instant releases
and the last of my blueberry
and the last half of today's 1mg kpin (saving my very last one for tmrw)
hoping to find some painkillers
and trying to convince the love of my life that she really is the love of my life.

yep. it's Tuesday.
 
A few bags of some decent H. Not as high as I would like to be, but when am I ever?
 
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