• LAVA Moderator: Shinji Ikari

MEGA - Jobs, Resumes, Interviews

Rule of thumb for resumes is that you don't want to include any jobs that you have not held within the last 7 years.

MSN, monster, yahoo, etc .... job information is Bullshit. Since the recession hit things have changed as far as resumes and interviewing. Do yourself a favor and got to this great site that these professional headhunters run and are at the top of the industry. I have always thought I knew how to write a resume until I listen to their podcast and saw an example of "your resume stinks". I know somewhere in there between the resume section and the interview section they talk about gaps of employment and how to handle that issue on bothe your resume and during the interview.

Resume information is here: http://manager-tools.com/podcasts/career-tools?filter0=30

Interviewing information is here: http://manager-tools.com/podcasts/career-tools?filter0=23

Let me know if you need any help.... Good Luck!
 
Rule of thumb for resumes is that you don't want to include any jobs that you have not held within the last 7 years.

MSN, monster, yahoo, etc .... job information is Bullshit. Since the recession hit things have changed as far as resumes and interviewing. Do yourself a favor and got to this great site that these professional headhunters run and are at the top of the industry. I have always thought I knew how to write a resume until I listen to their podcast and saw an example of "your resume stinks". I know somewhere in there between the resume section and the interview section they talk about gaps of employment and how to handle that issue on bothe your resume and during the interview.

Resume information is here: http://manager-tools.com/podcasts/career-tools?filter0=30

Interviewing information is here: http://manager-tools.com/podcasts/career-tools?filter0=23

Let me know if you need any help.... Good Luck!

Nice links. I'll use these myself and in the advice I give.
 
nothing can possibly go wrong. until it goes wrong. what happens when you're required to draw on this incredible experience in your new position and you have no idea what to do?

lying on your resume is really just lying to yourself. the worst lie of all? probably.

if you think things are bad now, wait until something happens that you didn't foresee, you're found out, the whole thing blows up and you've made yourself completely unemployable.

alasdair
 
Well.. I've got periods of my life where I spent months in rehab after rehab.. I also went to school/college. for example,
in 2007 I was 18, and in rehab in Baton Rouge.. So instead of putting down I was in rehab.. I put down I was at LSU, until I moved/transferred schools, went to rehab closer home.. So I put I was in college at Aub.Univ.. Next I moved even closer to home.. and once again I put down I was @ school at UAB.. Now its close to 4 years and I'm no where near a 4 year degree.. I'm at a community college now.. so if anyone ask's why did i transfer from a well known univ to a shitty cc in the projects.. I don't know what to say.. closer to grandma's house? lol
 
why did you transfer?

there's nothing wrong with saying that you moved for personal or family reasons and leave it at that.

alasdair
 
why did you transfer?

there's nothing wrong with saying that you moved for personal or family reasons and leave it at that.

alasdair

Rehab..
from 2007-present the only thing that looks good on my resume is my education, even though I don't have a highschool diploma (i did obtain my GED at one of the rehabs). Other then that, I've worked at Quiznos,Subway,Pizza places.. most 'career' type jobs don't look at that shit i'm guessing. so why even bother putting that on a resume?
 
What is your actual education? I don't mean what's on your resume, but what have you completed so far?
 
I have short certificates for underground & surface mining,industrial electricity,automotive,welding, and graphics design. (which only took about 6 months to get certified). As for *college. I have completed roughly 53 hours of college.. most of those hours are from class's such as English092-100;Math092-100,College Success 101,College Reading,College Orientation 101,ROTC+lab,ROTC PT(fucking running around PT at 5am),Music & Art Appreciation.. the list goes on lol, but havn't taken ANY science courses, or history.. or anything worth a fuck on a 4 year degree. sucks, but spending up this PACT thing before it's to late.

as for completed... nothing at a Univ.

only at a technical school.
 
Well there's nothing wrong with omitting rehab from your resume. Sure, it's technically where you spent a good amount of time, but it's nobody's business, and it's accepted that people will stretch out work or school to cover that gap.

Maybe you need to sit down with an academic counsellor and put together a long-term plan, where you can work toward a degree or designation. Are you worried that funds will run out before that can happen?
 
There is actually a pretty good spin you could put on your resume with the things you have accomplished, as long as those jobs lasted more that a few days.
 
I know someone who has a well paying white collar job that he got through using false details on the cv about previous work experience just because he could do that kind of work but had nothing to prove it. Worked out fine, still has it 6 years later.
 
^The key point there being he could do that kind of work.

One of the biggest problems is people who invest in education with no idea of how it will financially benefit them other than they have a degree and think that is the be all end all. More professional degrees (e.g. nursing, engineering) mean you can work in field, but if you take history/philosophy/biology then you should be planning on being a poor researcher or working out of field. The fact that most people get post secondary education in a field they find
'interesting", but picture themselves in a business administrative position later in life irrelevant to their degree, is foolishly spent money.
 
^ To be fair though, there are an incredible amount of cushy administrative positions held by people with unrelated BA degrees (or sometimes no degree at all) in both the public and private sector. But those aren't usually given to people based on education. They usually are given to friends, family, and the lucky few who sneak in through the cracks.
 
lying on your resume is really just lying to yourself.
...Is it?

the worst lie of all? probably.
Who made ourselves so important? :) I don't care if I lie to me, so it isn't that harmful a lie and thus not the worst life of all.

He isn't talking about lying about knowledge you would need to draw on. That would obviously be a stupid idea. He is talking about being in employment (whatever that may be - nothing skilled or anything complex that again, may require interrogation of knowledge) simply to make it look better than a gap of unemployment.

To the OP....I was unemployed for nearly a year and there was NO work available, but still didn't want it to look bad on my CV so simply wrote that I was working for a friend's self-employed Carpentry company as a Labourer - simple but effective. I actually did do that for a short while, so it wasn't wholly false.
 
it's just a little 'white' lie, right?

hell, op, why don't you say you were the chief technology officer for microsoft? maybe you once used excel so it's not wholly false, right? just make something up completely - anything you like - simply to make it look better than a gap of unemployment...

anything to avoid taking responsibility for the choices you made and the things you've actually done...

:\

best of luck.

alasdair
 
I hear you - probably more than you think.

Believe me, I've analyzed all aspects of it from a very honest perspective. And I am suffering the consequences. But how long am I supposed to suffer for?

How long do you want me to feel bad?

Forgive me for being like this, but after watching the world from many different perspectives I really don't think that there are too many lines in the United States that shouldn't be crossed. I wish my history had something better to offer - I really do. But I'm here now. I could try to shut the greed off. But who would I be doing it for, while I sit impotent in a crusty apartment, working for people who constantly reinforce the fact that it doesn't pay to fly straight? I can understand how someone with this mindset would seem completely flawed as a person, believe me, but I didn't ask to be born - and now that I'm here, I don't think it's reasonable to voluntarily put my muzzle on since we only last so long here anyways.
 
Getting hired at my 1st job required a resume submission, although i had no prior work experience. So for the jobs i put Superman's psychic: I find the crime before it happens and let him know their location. It was a bit more detailed than that, but in the end i got the job. :)

On future resumes I have lied on my resumes and massively exaggerated (fibbed at the interviews even on my greatness, and past achievements) but i have been hired every time but one. Do i feel bad? ...Am i going to work at this shitty job forever? ;)
 
What happens when they contact these people then and realise that you have made it up? You should get a friend to agree to use his/her phone number as the contact number for a fake company who will give a reference for you when called on the specific number, ...

I have actually done this for a mate before and it worked; pretended to be his old employer, gave him a good (but not unbeleivable) reference when called and he got the job :D
 
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