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infectedmushroom

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Here's the brief background;

I have been cwe'ing codeine every night for the past week with no tolerance dosing from 60-120mg. Last night I finally ran out of codeine and decided to make some PST instead with 235 grams (about half a pound.) I slugged the murky brown liquid yesterday afternoon at about 3 and felt very little effect until last night after smoking a joint with a friend. Unfortunately I had driven to his and had to drive back home afterwards - and while I was driving (I KNOW this is irresponsible) I quickly realized I really shouldn't be driving as I was ridiculously stoned. My breathing was labored and my reaction time was very, very poor.

Anyway, I came home safely, and crashed like a pile of bricks at about midnight. Fastforward to this morning - I became semi-conscious at around midday, only to realize I felt incredibely sick. My brain and eyeballs literally felt as if someone was squeezing all three like a stress ball. I've spent the day rolling around in agony feeling my brain pulse and stomach turn with the slightest noise or turn of my head. I'm intensely sensitive to light and have had no appetite all day. It's getting slightly better now (it's 8.30pm as I write this.)

Can anyone theorize why this happened to me because i'm at a loss. All I know is it was a horrible waste of a lovely saturday. :p
 
What is PST? Given that you have such a small tolerance it is at least possible that the sickness you've felt is from other ingredients - paracetamol, epinepherine, caffeine etc. I've never felt an opiate hangover ever.
 
I'm not sure what PST is but I remember back when I had no tolerance, the first time I shot up I had a dope hangover from hell the next morning... Weed can intensify a lot of shit, especially opiates so I don't doubt that it had an effect on you. Maybe your body is just trying to re-cooperate. I'm not really sure what PST is so I can't really tell you anything else other than rest up && drink lots of water.
 
that is your bodies way of saying "too much man, too much, you took to much".

Keep in mind that any liquid derived from straight poppies contains a number of alkaloids including but not limited to: morphine, thebaine, codeine and oripavine.

All of these alkaloids have different effects and different half-lives in your body.

Thebaine causes symptoms similar to strychnine poisoning at higher dosages.
Oripavine is also an analgesic, but not used due to it's severe toxicity.

Certain poppies are bred to have high morphine and codeine content, it's those you want to use.
Most poppies available however, have been bred to be virtually void in morphine and codeine. Using these poppies for tea, you will get symptoms of severe poisoning.

It is not uncommon for those symptoms to last from 24 - 36 hours before you return to normal.

Then, i speculate that using codeine for a week prior will have caused extremely mild wd symptoms, but enough in such a case for you to feel like uber crap like you described.
 
A hangover is exactly what you had. Just be careful because people have OD'd on PST and died. With such a low tolerance stick to stuff you know the exact dosage of.

What you did was extremely careless. Chugging an unknown amount of opiate particles into your body?? You never know with PSD/PPT.

suessmayr said:
What is PST? Given that you have such a small tolerance it is at least possible that the sickness you've felt is from other ingredients - paracetamol, epinepherine, caffeine etc. I've never felt an opiate hangover ever.
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Instead of epinephrine did you mean pseudo-ephedrine? Epinephrine is like adrenaline. Can be given in the ER for severe allergic reactions. Not fun. I have two epinephrine shots sitting near by but never would anyone want to use it unless they had to, side effects include extreme vomiting and fainting, horrible stuff.
 
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I was well aware I was consuming an unknown dose however based on previous experience - and reading online that in most overdose cases the person had used atleast a pound of seeds (more like 3-4 pounds...) I wasn't going to die. Just...possibly get very sick. Which is what happened. 8)

Anyway I think i'll avoid PPT and PST in the future regardless...to much of a game of russian roulette in terms of enjoyment.
 
I have opiate hangovers...well i wouldn't call it that. A couple times lately i've woken up really fucked up still and it last for like 2 more hours. Funny shit i was on a mix of perc and k pin and when i went to bed i felt awake but was like in a real interactive dream. It was mostly like me dreaming i was talking to people and randomly i would actually say something out loud and open my eyes and be like wtf! Best night of sleeep
 
I constantly complain about opiate hangovers and I hear I'm full of shit, but I guess other people get the same feeling. After a night of opiate abuse, I wake up feeling nauseous, dizzy, have diarrhea, and a nasty headache. Although this also sounds like withdrawal and I've been using it a couple times a week, this has always happened so I think its an opiate hangover. My alcohol ones are pretty nasty too, so maybe some are just more prone to them than others?
 
opiates cause vasodilation, when they wear off there can be a rebound vasocontriction, so it could be a vascular headache due to dilation and constriction at weird intervals.

Opiates also inhibit serotonin in some areas of the brain while increasing it in others, when they wear off the change of serotonin can trigger migraines. Things like imitrex for migraines are serotonin agonists at certain receptors to cause vaso regulation.

Try drinking some caffeine and ibuprofen. Not tylenol, that sucks.
 
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