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Blanch

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So here is a little story about an event i attended about a year back and how your attitude can really affect a good dose of mdma.

The night started out great, heading down the AC expressway in my friends convertible, the wind whipping in my face. I am already grinning from ear to ear and thinking aloud i say "man, this is going to be a great night". We drop everything off at the hotel room and sprint towards the show. right before we get in my friend looks at me and goes lets drop one right now! I eagerly agree and so *GULP* down the hatch. We get in line and all the sudden there is a lot of yelling and there is a ton of tension in the air. What the hell is going on?? I get to the front and the bouncer informs me that the event was shut down because P. Diddy had an after party there and too many frights broke out so the fire marshal shut down the venue for the weekend. WHAT THE FUCK!!! This has got to be some joke! i ask for a refund and they say they are not responsible and i have to go back and ask the original ticket-er. GREAT! FUCK YOU DIDDY!!!

My friend and I storm off and decide to play some poker or something to take our minds off the situation. An hour later we are both down a hundred dollars... This sucks. We go back to the hotel room and drink a couple beers. "Dude these rolls are fucking bunk, I though you tested em" my friend says. " Dude, I did! they are even on pill reports, 100% legit... i don't understand" i replied.

Fast forward several hours and we are waiting inline for a club at the casino. In a foul mood, my friend suggests we might as well take the other bunk ass pill as we still have one each. I begrudgingly agree and *GULP* down the hatch. we are in the club talking to some ladies and things are actually looking up. Seems everyone who had planned to go to the show is at the club, and Samantha Ronson(who i met %)) is spinning all the canceled artists hits!

Then.... All of the sudden.... WHAM!! I'm fucking rolling tits! How did this happen?!? I look to my friend and his eyes are huge. "GOD DAMN DUDE! I'M ROLLING SO HARD WTF?!?" he says. The rest of the night was awesome met some really cool people, one of which gave me a pair of lips for free! and we all ended up walking on the beach smoking a blunt as the sun came up. I Just wrote this so people could see that sometimes what is going on around you has a lot to do with how it will affect you.

Be safe guys!

-Blanch
 
I've heard of this happening to a few people, their roll hits six hours or so after ingestion. I'm not sure the reason for this
 
cool story. definitely makes sense. I wonder if someone got slipped x w/o them knowing..How would that hit?
 
I want time frames!

Maybe something with how you digested it or the capsule or something!!!
 
I really do think mood and setting have an extreme amount of influence on your roll. When I was at Ultra, my buddy had dropped for the first time but freaked out and left me all by myself when I had planned for it to be an epic night. I was pissed and reluctantly dropped. When it hit me, it was very weak and actually didn't improve my mood hardly at all. And this was pure, tested molly that i've rolled balls off of since then.

In the same vein, my first time at Bonnaroo last year was the perfect culmination of events that will never be topped, no matter how much MDMA I take. It's interesting how it works that way.
 
just so people have a better time frame:
Dropped first one at 7:30, by 9 i noticed i was a little more talkative but THATS IT
Dropped second one while in line for the club at 10, rolling hard by 11:15

im no neurologist but it must have something to do with your nero transmitters just not carrying any serotonin due to the fact that minutes before ingestion you were in a bad mood and thusly not predisposed for a normal transaction of serotonin and what not in the first place.

The key factor for me was that as soon as i started to have a good time at the club, i started rolling
 
I had a friend take some molly after a big meal. (he told me this btw, I wasn't there but I trust him on this) Anyways, after an hour or two, he wasn't feeling anything so he called up the person he got it from, told them off and went to bed. He said he woke up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom and was rolling REALLY hard. He ended up apologizing to the dude and was disappointed he fell asleep but said he knew not to eat before next time.

In another instance, I dropped some good stuff and my buddy and I went to a club. There was hardly anyone there and I was disappointed. He ended up mentioning having free tickets to a strip club and so we left the club and walked to his car. I was rolling slightly but really just not enjoying it. We ended up driving around for 2 hours but never found it. We did, however, find an adult book store where he looked at sex toys for him and his girl. I got irritated as I didn't want to wait around in the middle of the night downtown at some stupid sex shop we were only going in to get directions. The guy at the register didn't even know what club we were talking about. Long story short, my friend ended up getting mcdonalds and driving me to my car where I wasn't even feeling anything at that point so I just drove home, kinda down feeling.
 
Interesting to hear about these stories. The most I've ever heard of people waiting for it to hit them was about an hour and a bit. I would still argue that most of these cases are due digestion and are not neurological in nature. This is all speculative, but I feel that you'd have other issues if your head processed MDMA in such a different way. The 'subsystems' that MDMA targets are pretty fundamental to functioning normally in everyday life and I would imagine you would have other issues if the effects of MDMA were delayed by several hours due to neurological factors.
 
Logic, I'm so confused by what that second story had to do with rolling really hard later.

Yeah I've always found that eating before hand, your dosage, and just some other random factors can delay the effects. I believe it is all about your digestion. I've rolled in 10 minutes and over an hour later.
 
LogicSoDeveloped said:
I had a friend take some molly after a big meal. (he told me this btw, I wasn't there but I trust him on this) Anyways, after an hour or two, he wasn't feeling anything so he called up the person he got it from, told them off and went to bed. He said he woke up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom and was rolling REALLY hard. He ended up apologizing to the dude and was disappointed he fell asleep but said he knew not to eat before next time.
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I know form experience that some capsules are so cheaply made that they can take forever to fully dissolve, and thusly will take hours to affect you. Not sure if that is the case here but I'm just throwing it out there.
 
I took some tested MDMA (might have been MDEA) 2 days ago and felt nothing at all... ever. Took one full cap throughout the night and smoked a SHIT load of weed. I didn't eat very much at supper time and popped about 90 minutes after eating. That being said, we were supposed to party outside with loud music, a campfire and a laser but it started pourring rain, the power went out and my friends (who weren't rolling) start listening to heavy metal music and drawing pictures by candle light.

Worst roll of my life. All three of us who took it felt nothing at all. So I agree that with MDMA... the proper environment is KEY to a good roll. It's essential. For instance, had there been a fairly attractive girl there too massage me or play with my hair, It probably would have been enough for me to roll hard!!
 
Mac98 said:
I took some tested MDMA (might have been MDEA) 2 days ago and felt nothing at all... ever. Took one full cap throughout the night and smoked a SHIT load of weed. I didn't eat very much at supper time and popped about 90 minutes after eating. That being said, we were supposed to party outside with loud music, a campfire and a laser but it started pourring rain, the power went out and my friends (who weren't rolling) start listening to heavy metal music and drawing pictures by candle light.

Worst roll of my life. All three of us who took it felt nothing at all. So I agree that with MDMA... the proper environment is KEY to a good roll. It's essential. For instance, had there been a fairly attractive girl there too massage me or play with my hair, It probably would have been enough for me to roll hard!!
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Yeah, I think this especially true after the first few times you roll. Set and setting are fundamental to having a "peak" MDMA experience. I've also read reports (here on BL ED) about annoying rain killing people rolls. MDMA is not magic tonic as a solution to all of life's problems, it's only a key to a door that you need to walk through yourself (pardon the cliche).
 
I've had one incredible roll where the it affected me along a rather unusual span of time. I took a single pill at a festival on a pretty much empty stomach. I was about to conclude it was bunk, but at the 2-hour mark when I stepped back on to festival grounds it hit me all at once, I bounced right out of my body and snapped back in and proceeded to dance my ass off. It was beautiful. But here's where it gets odd. This pleasurable roll stayed mellowly resilient until late at night, pupils even more dilated than before. It was stimulating, but not the way Ecstasy normally is.. I could sleep just fine. The high was soo good though. The day after I had absolutely no hangover. I actually had an after glow that lasted me a good couple of months.

I really want to know what was in that pill.
 
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I feel ya! My very first time rolling, I was given a half tab and after 2 hrs I was just sweating and dry heaving, then nothing (I was at a huge after-hours club, I was not used to that at all...yet). Then in the cab on the way back to my friend's house, 2 more hrs later, I start ROLLING for the first time. still on 1/2 tab. All i could say was wow!

I've also been at a great club with great pills and great friends... when a GANG FIGHT broke out! I immediately had a panic attack and no benzos to help me, and had to sit outside for a couple hours till i cooled down. Environment can DEFINITELY affect rolls.
 
This happened to a friend of mine. We'd both consumed 20 mg of 2-cb, everything was going great for me, However my friend is feeling nauseous and not enjoying himself. About 2-3 hours into the 2-cb, he dropped a bomb of 110 mg. Hour later, nothing. So he dropped another bomb with the same amount in. Hour goes by. Nothing. So he dropped the 3rd bomb. Nothing until about 45 minutes later as the club was closing, he came up so hard he said he didn't know if he was going to throw up or shit himself! I know the 2-cb may play a role in this, but he's dosed this way before in the past and its worked fine, coming up in an hour on the first bomb.
 
Thizz_Machine_138 said:
I've heard of this happening to a few people, their roll hits six hours or so after ingestion. I'm not sure the reason for this
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It takes 45 minutes usually .. or up to an hour and a half for me once
Depends what ive ate too i guess.
Really 6 hours? Damnnn. I wonder why it takes that long for some people.



Main test i have is this.

Sitting on sofa coming up - 1 hour 45 minutes (werent counting i just though id look at the clock now, then ill look at it when i start coming up (it was out of view in another room)

usually 45 minutes at a rave when im dancing my arse off
 
The comeup on actual MDMA is often very rapid. In refenence to MDMA powder, the first 45 minutes are often not even the slightest amount of a head change, the then WHAM! and over the next 10 minutes there are drastic changes which then level off. I imagine with something pressed, that this would possibly offset the onset by some amount of time but MDMA is one that tends to hit hard and quick after 45 minutes to an hour of waiting.
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It taking several hours... Im not sure, could have been a lot of things, at this point all is speculation. Our mindsets and perception have drastic effects on how our brains perceive the gamut of experiences life throws at us. Some really shitty things could distract you from the drugs in your brain, but MDMA tends to make its presence very aware.
 
In my experience mood and setting are EVERYTHING. this was proven to me without a doubt when i had just started rolling extremely hard after tripple dropping at a rave. im 100% sure that this was a good mdxx roll. i got puked on and immediately all good feelings vanished and i was left feeling depressed and slightly nauseated. no euphoria whatsoever. i could tell i was still high but it wasnt anything close to enjoyable. i only rolled for about 20 minutes before getting puked on so there was still plenty left.

also, whenever im listening to an edm song i really like and i start remembering some of the awesome times ive had at raves i get a rush of energy and excitement right at the breakdown that feels just like rolling. although it only lasts a few seconds.
 
Proper MDMA is way too strong to be totally outweighed by your mood. No way can you not notice it because you're feeling a bit pissed off. There is some physical reason why this happened. Maybe only some of the pills were bunk, the time frame isn't as you remember it, you'd eaten before you dropped, the filler in the tabs was very indigestible or something. I do not buy that someone can take a proper dose of E and it not work because they're not in the mood.
 
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