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Weed to fend off other addictions/cure after binge bad health effects

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Ok july has been a pretty debaucheristic(is that even a word) month for me, the summer was just too nice in general (temperature) also my birthday is located in it.

I've started the month with doing a bunch of LSD, PCP, 4-aco-dipt, 4-aco-dmt (well 7 doses of these psychedelics in total, not of each) and the afterglow of these experiences lifted me up from a moderatly sever depression so I felt like I could party again and stop isolating myself from my friends and especially girl-friends ;)

I smoked weed for 9 years errday since I was 19, so almost a decade of extreme cannabis use (yeah there is such a thing), I sort of gave it up because it was starting to give me more bad effects than good, apparently that happens to many people who use it a lot for a long time. So it had been a while since I had smoked regularly (maybe 4 bowls in 4 months before july).

I always liked the meth pills (yeah, a canadian thing meth comes in pills here and they are easily identiable, meth/amphs pills are always white while other chemicals are mostly in colourful pill forms so tweekers knwo exactly what to look for.

But I had stopped all that shit during my last years of college before getting my masters because I felt I couldn't handle all these hedonistic and somewhat damaging drugs, as I have a tendency to go on binges. But somewhere around mid july I met this girl who had some of the best speed pills I ever had (I was surprised to see that rectangular amph or meth pill press since I hadn't done any in almost 3 years, but I knew those were the cleanest of the cleanest so I gave in and bought 4 a bit before my birthday and then, bam, too many women got in my life to have sex with who were also on party mode this summer and I did a shitload of oral/snorted meth, almost everyday but in controlled dosages and with diazepam/oxazepam to put me out during the horrible comedown.

I dosed speed for the last time 5 days ago because I was starting to get sick of feeling shitty from all the overstrained muscles from sex/sitting 15 hours in front of a computer/jerking off I did during that month and stopepd there, but then I felt really fucking drained with not only muscle pain but also I was sick of my heart always beaten really hard and I was starting to get some weird paresthesias all over my scalp and pain between my ears, neck pain/stiff neck, painful chest at times etc.

I refilled my oxazepam script but i have to wait on refilling my valium which I found is several times more effective for me because I overused it during the speed binge. I still had some high quality weed from the 1/4 or so that I got 3 months ago and after taking a 40mg OC i was given because my friends always were hearing me complaining about how painful I felt and a lot more oxazepam that I would normay lluse 120mg made me a tiny bit better but not much, I was still not able to feelsgoodman you know. I decided to take a very small hit from a bowl and bam, I feel completely fine, I mean, the pain is still there but its much less severe, my heartrate went back to normal, appetite came back too, that might be unfortunate because I lost 20 lbs this month and i'm still rather fat I find 6'0 245 lbs compared to 265 where I was starting to feel uncomfortable and finding clothes that fit me was starting to be difficult too, but that's somethintg completely different.

My whole point here is : has anyone read or has personal experiences where with no marijuana tolerance, toking a bit to feel better while fending off harder drugs made them not only feel better but totally remove any cravings left for the drugs they had ? Because I tried to google about how weed can fight addiction to others drugs and how it can be a medicine this way too, with good quality weed and very small hits so you don't hurt your lungs too much either in the process and only found one discussion on another forum talking about this. It's the first time I realize this in my whole decade of being a major drugs user of any kind. Although I had never ever taken a break from weed and after doing that, weed itself was the best medidine for me yesterday and today after wanting to restore myself and stop the hard drugs (amphetamines) mainly. I don't feel totally back to normal again but damn, I don't feel like getting more oxy either for the pains and i could get it very easily if I wanted. It feels like what weed did to me a decade ago when I started it, zero negatives only positives and i'm not talking about giggling like an idiot like in your first times, but all the other good things of weed cancelling/helping over getting way overboard and feeling like crap from amphetamines was a very big surprise to me, hence probably the very long post heheh.
 
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I only read 1/4th of the last paragraph, but yes, I used weed to help battle insane W/Ds from a huge opiate addiction. Been clean for a decent bit now, since I kicked it months back - I stopped keeping count of the months. There are a bunch of threads here about that.
 
o be honest, I don't think replacing harder drugs with a less harmful drug, but still a drug none the less, is going to help you long term. I've had friends who smoked after rehab for H to help ease the wd's, but it doesn't get at the root of the problem and it kind of prevents you from really every getting there. you have a drug problem, and weed is a drug as well. in my opinion, the cold hard truth is that you will never learn how to deal with life independent of drugs unless you are exactly that: independent and free from drugs. again, imo because i have never tried your shoes on for size, you will never be able to use a drug in moderation until you can live without drugs. I've seen some really close friends fight with addictions, few of them just jump from one drug to the other until they land themselves in the same shithole: rehab.

so, to answer your question, yes weed can help with the withdraws, but only on a short term scale. Long term, you will have to eventually break all dependencies if you do not want to be an addict.
 
you have a drug problem, and weed is a drug as well. in my opinion, the cold hard truth is that you will never learn how to deal with life independent of drugs unless you are exactly that: independent and free from drugs.[

Long term, you will have to eventually break all dependencies if you do not want to be an addict.

Having been through the whole 12 step, rehab bullshit (before I dropped out, cold turkey quit, and refused suboxone), this shit drives me nuts. It's a physical battle at first, yes, and weed can help... But comparing weed to an opiate or meth... it's just naive. They are nothing alike.

No offensve, my belief system just doesn't line up with yours. I get infuriated when people go "Oh you were addicted to opiates for a year? Well then, you can never touch an opiate again, huh!" I have no plans on ever taking opiates unless, like, my arm explodes, but that doesn't mean my mentality is "I cannot have an opiate because I am an addict" - in reality "I cannot have any opiate because I KNOW THAT SHIT IS NOT GOOD FOR ME". It's always been and will continue to be a horrible mental battle.

If cannabis helps you with that, more power to you. Don't replace habits, but cannabis will not grab you and steal your fucking soul like most hard drugs out there. There is really no comparison... IMO.
 
o be honest, I don't think replacing harder drugs with a less harmful drug, but still a drug none the less, is going to help you long term. I've had friends who smoked after rehab for H to help ease the wd's, but it doesn't get at the root of the problem and it kind of prevents you from really every getting there. you have a drug problem, and weed is a drug as well. in my opinion, the cold hard truth is that you will never learn how to deal with life independent of drugs unless you are exactly that: independent and free from drugs. again, imo because i have never tried your shoes on for size, you will never be able to use a drug in moderation until you can live without drugs. I've seen some really close friends fight with addictions, few of them just jump from one drug to the other until they land themselves in the same shithole: rehab.

so, to answer your question, yes weed can help with the withdraws, but only on a short term scale. Long term, you will have to eventually break all dependencies if you do not want to be an addict.

I disagree completely. Weed is a wonderful thing and most definitely not a drug, its a plant. It will help you short term with the withdrawals. And long term, because its great.

Just like Chainer said, comparing marijuana with opiates at all is absolutely ridiculous.
 
To carlifiy my post - I know cannabis is a drug, not just a "plant". Try growing it without giving it any care, nutes, curing, light cycle, etc, it won't come out the same.... But to compare it to hard drugs... I just don't see the connection besides maybe easing out of one mental addiction into another.

FYI: When I quit blowing oxymorphone up my nose, I started using a water spray. Everytime I had a craving, I would blow a whisp of water up my nose, and it would actually feel like a solid hit for about 10 seconds, which was enough. I don't see much difference between that and cannabis. I no longer use either cannabis nor the water up my nose, and no longer associate either to opiates. I don't see a problem if you are mentally prepared for what you will be going through.
 
I disagree completely. Weed is a wonderful thing and most definitely not a drug, its a plant. It will help you short term with the withdrawals. And long term, because its great.

Just like Chainer said, comparing marijuana with opiates at all is absolutely ridiculous.

Mushrooms and poppies also grow naturally. If I smoke a joint I can get as much anxiety as a meth comedown. Yes it's a plant which contains the drug THC.
 
To carlifiy my post - I know cannabis is a drug, not just a "plant". Try growing it without giving it any care, nutes, curing, light cycle, etc, it won't come out the same.... But to compare it to hard drugs... I just don't see the connection besides maybe easing out of one mental addiction into another.

FYI: When I quit blowing oxymorphone up my nose, I started using a water spray. Everytime I had a craving, I would blow a whisp of water up my nose, and it would actually feel like a solid hit for about 10 seconds, which was enough. I don't see much difference between that and cannabis. I no longer use either cannabis nor the water up my nose, and no longer associate either to opiates. I don't see a problem if you are mentally prepared for what you will be going through.

chainer what i meant when i said weed will not help someone with their long term battle against addiction is that weed can be an addiction in itself. it is a drug, like you agreed, and it can be habit forming and used an escape from one's problems. I don't believe i was being naive in my comparison, i even noted that weed is much less harmful than most other drugs. Again, like you stated yourself it is a drug, so I fail to see how comparing a drug to another drug is naive, however i didn't mean to cause offense i understand it can be a touchy subject for some. my only point in the comparison is that switching from a smoking meth all day to just smoking weed all day doesn't solve the problem, its simply choosing the lesser of two evils. From my experience, the same things have driven me to both smoke weed and put powder up my nose. the problem is within.

and Number love, I agree, weed is a wonderful thing and it is great, but that still proves nothing other than you are good at stating opinions like they are facts.
 
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