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Finding my "sweet spot" or chasing the dragon? You decide.

infinitejester

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At first, this may sound like all the posts in the dosage thread, but I've gone through a lot of threads here, and my situation sounds slightly different. I'll try to explain.

I have rolled seven times total. I love MDMA and have a great time on it, but - and here's where my post is like everyone else's - I've never been, like, ::whoa:: and been floored. I'm 5'11" and 150 lbs.

The details are where I think my situation is a bit different:

1) I have taken my current batch of molly in question on three different occasions, and each time I've rolled I've been with friends who have taken the same stuff as me (I've only done MDMA in powder/crystal-like form)

2) Although I haven't tested my current batch, it feels beautifully clean - not speedy, very chill.

3) I'm confident that my molly hasn't been cut to shit. A few of my friends have dosed from this same batch, and my girlfriend has rolled with me on each occasion. She has been completely hammered off of 100 mg of it on two occasions, and 110 mg was a bit too much for her when we were out dancing one evening (nothing crazy, just a little too much standing around on the dancefloor staring at the lights sticking her tongue out and crunching on ice cubes, by her own admission :)).

4) I am not on any medications, and I've never eaten a gigantic meal right before dosing.

5) The shortest time between any of my experiences has been two months.

6) Most importantly, I appreciate the subtlety of the MDMA experience, and if what I've experienced so far is as high as I'll get, then so be it - I still think it's a wonderful and versatile drug. That said, I'd still like to be completely floored by it.

Other potentially relevant facts: I don't roll for a terribly long time (about 2.5 hrs before I'm definitely in the comedown state, without a booster). I avoid having more than 2 drinks before rolling and don't smoke pot during the roll. Also, I have yet to have a rough comedown whatsoever, just a little dumb the next day.

Here's where my question comes in: For my first four trips, I took 100 mg each time (all from the same batch of molly). It was always great, but my friends were on a slightly different plane. The past three times, I've taken 130 mg, 140 mg, and 150 mg of my current batch, redosing with about 1/3 of the original each time. Although the set and setting was a bit different each time, each progressively higher dose seemed to get me higher.

Sometimes I wonder whether it's even possible to be satisfied with how high you are on MDMA, but my girlfriend and some other friends have definitely had subjectively ::enough::. Then again, maybe I'm just the type of person who always wants to go harder, better, faster, stronger and will always want more.

So what it comes down to is, how many of you have found your "sweet spot?" And are there others like me out there that have been through something similar and just have a high natural tolerance? If so, have you found that you've finally found a dose that works for you? Do more experienced users think it would be wise for me to take an initial dose of 160 mg next time? I like to take a booster because I don't roll for very long, so that would mean a total dose of 210 mg or more for the night. That seems to be getting into the "heavy" dose territory, which I'm a little wary of. Should I be wary of doses that high?

I'd appreciate any insight my fellow Bluelighters could provide. Thanks!

[Mods, if this belongs in the dosage thread, feel free to move it, and please accept my apologies for posting it as a new thread.]
 
from reading this, I don't think it would be a bad idea for you to start wtih a higher dose.
I like to start with 150 mg, re-dose wtih 100 mg, then redose with 100 mg and sometimes another 50mg-100mg.
I would say my sweet spot is some where around 250mg-300 mg.
You seem responsible with the stuff so don't be worried about going a little harder next time.
you'll be good as long as you give your body proper recovery time
 
It could be moved into the 'Mega Dosage' thread or even the 'Why doesn't MDMA work for me' thread ! It is possible that you naturally have a higher tolerance to the drug than your friends and you could simply not enjoy / appreciate the high associated with the drug. What other drugs (if any) do you use / enjoy? What type of person are you? Are you afraid / reluctant to simply 'let go' and enjoy yourself? The term 'being floored' is so subjective - I know from experience that my idea of being floored on MDMA is very different to my friends.

I personally do not know that many people who would need more than 150mgs as a starting dose to feel the effects (unless they had a tolerance / huge body size etc).

Maybe, MDMA isn't for you!
 
I just posted this in another thread but it's relavent here too: once you get to 150mg there's not much point in taking any more because your blood will be saturated with mdma for many, many hours. MDMA inhibits it's own metabolism.

It is illustrated here: Look at Figure 2 (page 108 ) of the following article: http://www.erowid.org/references/texts/show/382docid345
That's assuming his molly is 100% pure, which is very unlikely.
OP: I think taking 160mgs is reasonable, but if you really want to be floored it would probably be better to dose all at once considering tolerance builds up quickly. And evidence suggests that redosing does the most damage anyway. Although if you over-do it with MDMA I find that it ruins the experience because you aren't even really present enough to appreciate it. You could also consider plugging since it hits you much faster, but keep in mind that the BA is much higher with this ROA and adjust your dose accordingly.
 
When you consider if you were to have 100% pure MDMA 150mg isnt an especially high dose, i'd say no
I've found i like between .15-.17 if its good shit best.
 
That's assuming his molly is 100% pure, which is very unlikely.

Yes, that was assuming it was pure. I didn't realize molly was so commonly cut nowadays. If they say the average pill contains about 70mg mdma, what would be a good rule of thumb for molly? 80% pure? 50%?

Just goes to show how difficult dosing can be for most people...
 
Yes, that was assuming it was pure. I didn't realize molly was so commonly cut nowadays. If they say the average pill contains about 70mg mdma, what would be a good rule of thumb for molly? 80% pure? 50%?

Just goes to show how difficult dosing can be for most people...

Its completely random.

Since MDMA is illegal, nobody knows how much Molly of what purity is around. Molly is also cut for the most part (unless you have a good connect), either with inactive ingredients or completely different chemicals. They just busted an operation that was selling 4-MEC/4-MMC as "molly," which those two are clearly not MDMA.

Many people, even in the same city, are taking different sorts.

If Prohibition were done away with, none of this would be an issue.
 
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