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Tren and MDMA?
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Captain.Heroin
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Voxide answered this effectively, so I will go ahead and close this thread.
Please be aware that combining steroids with recreational drugs is generally not a good idea. The SD forum has a lot of archived threads which probably would have been able to provide you with an answer quicker than posting this thread and waiting for an answer would have.
Please be aware that combining steroids with recreational drugs is generally not a good idea. The SD forum has a lot of archived threads which probably would have been able to provide you with an answer quicker than posting this thread and waiting for an answer would have.
Renz Envy
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I've heard nothing about "Wasting a cycle" from MDMA while on cycle. Please post evidence or some form of scientific information.
As for heart risk. YES. You put your life on the line when using powerful stimulants such as cocaine and MDMA while on steroids. Has it been done thousands of times before? Yes. Have people survived doing it? Plenty of times. Have people died? Yes.
As for heart risk. YES. You put your life on the line when using powerful stimulants such as cocaine and MDMA while on steroids. Has it been done thousands of times before? Yes. Have people survived doing it? Plenty of times. Have people died? Yes.
1. You don't waste a cycle. Yes, your eating and training are fucked for a couple days, but nothing worse.
2. Heart attack isn't a concern, except from the stims. Steroids can cause cholesterol issues which may put you in a position to be more likely to have heart difficulty, but a blanket statement that it will cause a heart attack is bogus. Now, if your bp is high, the stims could further increase it causing a stroke. But, if you're smart you have your bp under control.
That being said, I have experienced zero issues on tren and using mdma. With coke, I do feel my bp rise significantly.
2. Heart attack isn't a concern, except from the stims. Steroids can cause cholesterol issues which may put you in a position to be more likely to have heart difficulty, but a blanket statement that it will cause a heart attack is bogus. Now, if your bp is high, the stims could further increase it causing a stroke. But, if you're smart you have your bp under control.
That being said, I have experienced zero issues on tren and using mdma. With coke, I do feel my bp rise significantly.
Snarky91
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I think he meant "wasting a cycle" as in the guy taking the mdma will be so debilitated for the week after use that it will set him back several steps. Not working out for a week and not eating enough in the aftermath of taking mdma could easily set a person back a few weeks, if not more. Not to mention, Tren causes blood pressure to skyrocket. Some users can't bear the side effects, even WITHOUT a powerful stimulant drug exacerbating things. Taking hard stimulant drugs alongside steroids is a moronic fucking decision and it throws into doubt what the user's real objectives and goals are.
Voxide
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Pretty much.
Taking rec drugs on any cycle is fucking dumb. It proves you don't have dedication to lifting and therefore have no need for anabolics in the very first place. Never mind the potential health catastrophes that could result, in the end, it all goes back to principle. At least wait until the cycle and PCT are both done if you insist on getting wasted, shit.
Renz Envy
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I don't think MDMA throws you back as much as people like to think. Not like banging grams of coke.
With that said, it also depends on how well you can maintain your diet while taking MDMA. Some people experience extreme appetite suppression issues, others don't. My theory is that the increased metabolic rate is highly overestimated.
With that said, it also depends on how well you can maintain your diet while taking MDMA. Some people experience extreme appetite suppression issues, others don't. My theory is that the increased metabolic rate is highly overestimated.
andyclark1225
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I'm taking winstrol (steroid) aswell as 160mg of clenbuterol (wish is fucking powerful!) which is a stimulant. I take mdma on the odd occasion aswell and to be honest the clenbuterol feels a lot strong like my hands shake like I've got parkinsons all day long, my heart beats really fast all day long and it beats really strongly and irregularly. On top of that I just went for a run and I'm alive so I don't think you're gonna have a heart attack unless you're in pretty bad shape and health which I doubt you are if you're lifting weights seriously enough to take steroids. Hope this helps! 
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Only Tren? No Testosterone as a base? And he wants to do drugs while on steroid known for serious side effects? Your friend is a fool.
Enjoy being found dead one day from an underlying heart condition you didn't know about that was triggered by combining Clenbuterol with MDMA by itself or MDMA cut with stimulants.
I'm taking winstrol (steroid) aswell as 160mg of clenbuterol (wish is fucking powerful!) which is a stimulant. I take mdma on the odd occasion aswell and to be honest the clenbuterol feels a lot strong like my hands shake like I've got parkinsons all day long, my heart beats really fast all day long and it beats really strongly and irregularly. On top of that I just went for a run and I'm alive so I don't think you're gonna have a heart attack unless you're in pretty bad shape and health which I doubt you are if you're lifting weights seriously enough to take steroids. Hope this helps!
Enjoy being found dead one day from an underlying heart condition you didn't know about that was triggered by combining Clenbuterol with MDMA by itself or MDMA cut with stimulants.
Voxide
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I'm taking winstrol (steroid) aswell as 160mg of clenbuterol (wish is fucking powerful!) which is a stimulant. I take mdma on the odd occasion aswell and to be honest the clenbuterol feels a lot strong like my hands shake like I've got parkinsons all day long, my heart beats really fast all day long and it beats really strongly and irregularly. On top of that I just went for a run and I'm alive so I don't think you're gonna have a heart attack unless you're in pretty bad shape and health which I doubt you are if you're lifting weights seriously enough to take steroids. Hope this helps!
Please, for the safety of those dumb enough to take you seriously, don't give advice again.
Wow. I just noticed that. Lolololol.
Natural selection is just going to have to take its course on this one.
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It's sad lol. A lot of people really don't know how to use steroids properly. Last night I got off the phone with a friend and he was telling me how some kid he knew ran Anadrol by itself for 12 weeks, followed up without any PCT and bitched about why he was pissing dark urine and why he lost all his gains.
theartofwar
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Have fun while your HPTA is completely shut down - and with zero synthetic testosterone you have a few problems on your hand.
a) tren - you are not competing - do not use it
b) no test - you are not ready to do a cycle if you don't know this much
c) no PCT - refer to test comment
d) mdma - look I've partied on cycles , and I've regretted it and I've had no problems - it really depends on your KNOWLEDGE of yourself , and the substances, esp when you just put out "mdma" - ya the purity of mdma pills has been SOOO good recently *rolls eyes*
bro just work on one thing at a time. For now, I'd suggest working on researching steroids, and if you wanna party far be it from me to judge, shit I do - jus depends on what's what in life / cycle / etc.
READ READ READ - if you want an anabolics guides pdf PM me and I will send you it - latest version is 698 pages I believe, if you spend the time and read it you will have 90% of your questions answered.
a) tren - you are not competing - do not use it
b) no test - you are not ready to do a cycle if you don't know this much
c) no PCT - refer to test comment
d) mdma - look I've partied on cycles , and I've regretted it and I've had no problems - it really depends on your KNOWLEDGE of yourself , and the substances, esp when you just put out "mdma" - ya the purity of mdma pills has been SOOO good recently *rolls eyes*
bro just work on one thing at a time. For now, I'd suggest working on researching steroids, and if you wanna party far be it from me to judge, shit I do - jus depends on what's what in life / cycle / etc.
READ READ READ - if you want an anabolics guides pdf PM me and I will send you it - latest version is 698 pages I believe, if you spend the time and read it you will have 90% of your questions answered.
theartofwar
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I'm taking winstrol (steroid) aswell as 160mg of clenbuterol (wish is fucking powerful!) which is a stimulant. I take mdma on the odd occasion aswell and to be honest the clenbuterol feels a lot strong like my hands shake like I've got parkinsons all day long, my heart beats really fast all day long and it beats really strongly and irregularly. On top of that I just went for a run and I'm alive so I don't think you're gonna have a heart attack unless you're in pretty bad shape and health which I doubt you are if you're lifting weights seriously enough to take steroids. Hope this helps!
Did you pyramid your clen dose - are you running keto w it ? Please realize that clen related deaths are not unheard of. The irregularity of your heart beat is what makes me nervous. Why not try using a simple ECA ? It is arguably as affective (some say more so) - without risking so many of the negative aspects of clen.
As for winstrol - shit makes me feel like a 90 year old man, and again where is the test base ? Winstrol is best run with deca or even eq to help lubricate the joints - and WITHOUT TEST it really isn't worth commenting on.