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Legal pills. Giggle and Diablo

demon_463

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My 3 pack of giggle pills and 4 pack of diablo pills arrived the other day. I dropped one of the giggle ones at home, I was with two house mates and I just smoked cuple of cones. Sat around talking waiting for it to work, when it kicked in it was pretty hardcore. It felt very close to mdma, big rush, wanted to smoke more cigarettes and listen to music. didn't have the talkative part tho. Everything felt light and electric. I felt energy so I went out to see some mates. But the good rushing only lasted like an hr and a half at the most. Bout 2 and a half hours after taking the giggle I decided to take a diablo, they r the ones with the devils face. The gave me bit more rushing, felt trippy lost track of time. Feeling nauseous. Had a tally of jim beam. Feeling pretty fucked up. Probably bout 3 hrs after the diablo I had another giggle and everything got fucked from there. Got sum rushing, then I was sick for hours spewing all the time and I had extreme vertigo.

Conclusion: maybe just one pill per day lol I'm still guna take the last giggle in a cuple of days, need to get ova the sick feeling wen i think of them. I gave the other diablos away to friends.
Has anyone had the diablos by them self, wat r the like by themselves?
 
I wouldn't fuck around with that stuff man. Look for some real MDMA pills, it is around and I'd say it's A LOT safer then this legal bullshit. If you got sick off them why would you even want to try it again. Stay away from that shit man, I've heard nothing but bad reviews.
 
Hi demon_463, welcome to bluelight. Sorry to hear you had a bad time on them, though from all reports having 3 over a night with alcohol it sounds like a pretty typical response. Both of these have been discussed a lot before on this board so check out the search engine (search for giggle or diablo within AusDD). Here are some good threads for starters:

'legal' party pills
Too many legal high pills.
Diablo Legal Pills (Yes another thread like this...)
NEWS : 29.9.09 - Health risk in a Giggle pill that can kill
 
I've never heard anything good about these pills. In fact everything I've heard is exactly the same, a slight buzz for an hour or two, followed by a hellish comedown and awful illness.

It's disgusting that they're still allowed to sell this shit without so much as listing ingredients on the packet.
 
Haven't posted on BL for a while but couldn't help myself here - I had a very similar experience demon_463. I've had other products like these years ago, I hated them at the time and swore I'd never go near the legal high rubbish again. But a couple months ago after a bit to drink a friend offered me some of the diablos and giggles. I had 1, was having an OK time, felt like just a caffeine buzz really, maybe it was just the booze I don't know. I had a second one about 90 minutes later and holy shit - I was trashed. Could barely walk, struggled to coordinate myself to have a much needed cigarette. Very floaty, and weird tingling sensations (not the good ones like MDMA - just weird.) That lasted about an hour when I started having severe nausea. After vomiting everywhere tried to go to bed, felt like I was falling through space and spinning uncontrollably it was absolutely disgusting, I've never felt so sick in my life. My recommendation to anyone considering trying these - DON'T.
 
These cunts probably fill this shit with caffeine and nutmeg.....a nutmeg high is the WORST! Sounds much like it.
 
Has anyone had the diablos by them self, wat r the like by themselves?

Not personally, but I've heard from other people that the Giggles are about 1.5 times the strength on the diablos.
As a rule these legal pills are considerred fairly dangerous to be having a few of. If you have a read through the other legal pill threads there is a fair bit of info on them.
They get a very bad rap from most drug users. But try not comparing them to MDMA, because the chemical is completely different. Most people I've heard say it felt like shitty whip (meth)
at low doses, but having higher amounts of the legal pills is very common to make you throw up and feel nauseas as you said happened to you.

I know a few other bluelighters have a true hatred towards that drug because it's more responsible for alot of people getting sick at festivals then you would think (Far more then MDMA or Whip caused ;) )
When you try the other giggle by itself, report back on how it goes. See if you get any unwanted side affects from just one.

Party Safe.
Pillreports.com - Mod
 
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I personally wouldn't touch anything like that - by definition if they were anything like MDx they'd be illegal - but this is just my opinion. Each to their own! :)

However I am interested in what exactly is in these? Piperazines? Caffeine? Nutmeg? :\ All of the above? :S
 
I personally wouldn't touch anything like that - by definition if they were anything like MDx they'd be illegal - but this is just my opinion. Each to their own! :)

However I am interested in what exactly is in these? Piperazines? Caffeine? Nutmeg? :\ All of the above? :S

DMAA or Methylhexaneamine.
Methylhexaneamine (Forthan, Forthane, Floradrene, Geranamine), also known as dimethylamylamine (DMAA), is a drug and simple aliphatic amine used as a nasal decongestant, as well as treatment for hypertrophied or hyperplasic oral tissues, and as an active ingredient in party pills in New Zealand. Once trademarked under Forthane by Eli Lilly in 1971, the trademark has since expired, and so methylhexaneamine should not be confused with isoflurane, whose proprietary name in Australia is also Forthane. It is a vasoconstrictor, and can be administered by inhalation to the nasal mucosa to exert its effect. The trademark Geranamine is currently owned by Proviant Technologies. Methylhexaneamine is also a constituent of flower oil, sold as an integral component of nutritional supplements

Chemistry

Methylhexaneamine may be synthesized by reacting 4-methylhexan-2-one with hydroxylammonium chloride to give the oxime, followed by reduction via sodium in ethanol.

Uses

Although intended by Eli Lilly to be used as a nasal decongestant, methylhexaneamine has been marketed by certain companies as a dietary supplement in combination with caffeine and other ingredients, under trade names such as Geranamine and Floradrene, to be used as an OTC thermogenic or general purpose stimulant. Methylhexaneamine itself has not been studied intensively and its pharmacological profile has not been evaluated since Eli Lilly filed its patent in 1944, stating that the stimulant effects on the CNS are less than that of the related compounds amphetamine and ephedrine.

Methylhexaneamine is not FDA approved in its own right, although it is a component of geranium oil which is approved for use in foods, and so this has been used to justify claims that it should be classified as a dietary supplement rather than a pharmaceutical product. However while it may be technically correct to say that methylhexaneamine is a dietary supplement as it is a component of the oil from Pelargonium graveolens which is approved for use in foods, methylhexaneamine comprises only 0.66% of geranium oil, and pure synthetic methylhexaneamine is thus quite different from geranium oil.

Like all stimulants, methylhexaneamine carries a risk. Abusing any stimulant can have serious side effects and it is important to follow the proper dosing instructions and care must be taken to not abuse this substance past the recommended doses in products.

Use as a recreational drug

In New Zealand, methylhexanamine (under the name 1,3-dimethylamylamine or DMAA) is an emerging active ingredient of party pills, where it has replaced benzylpiperazine or BZP which has been illegal in that country since 2008. Serious adverse effects including headache, nausea, and stroke have been reported in recreational users of these products. In November 2009, the New Zealand government indicated that methylhexanamine would be scheduled as a restricted substance. Listing a drug as a restricted substance in New Zealand means it would be illegal to:

* Sell or supply methylhexanamine to anyone under 18
* Advertise methylhexanamine in the media
* Offer methylhexanamine as a gift or reward
* Sell or supply methylhexanamine from premises where alcohol is sold or from service stations
* Sell methylhexanamine from any premises where children or minors gather
 
I've tried Diablo and another blue downer sort of one. In conclusion, stay away! These pills are fucked. I don't know how they are still legal, you can feel the harm they are doing.
 
lol either your full of shit or u never had mdma mate......i've had giggles and hypotnics and so have alot of my friends and have all had bad results all these "legal" pills u cn buy in bong shops are DMMA do some reaserch before u stick shit down your gob............:\
 
Thanks for the info thestudent14. Really does amaze me what people will put in their bodies....like I said though, each to their own! :\ Who am I to dictate? :)

I do agree with junkie_s though, people need to/should know what they're ingesting!
 
Find it funny how there's so little said about these legal highs and yet kronic cops so much bad publicity when its obviously a lot safer to use than these things imo. Wish they'd do everyone a favour and ban these already..
 
^ Coz we all know banning something stops people taking it ;) More useful would be if every drug came with full information, so people could make an informed choice before taking them, and not automatically think legal = ok, illegal = bad.

thestudent14 said:
Made me sound fancy

Haha, I'm just fucking around anyway.
 
I don't want to de-rail the thread or anything but from my chemistry background with a little work these pills could be more useful than people think. Although I'm sure if too many people caught onto this it would be illegal very soon (or severly limited like sudo).
 
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