WeThePeople
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anyone ever tried or heard of someone who has used coffee enemas to help detox the liver for withdrawl? Was wondering how effective this would be in helping get through withdrawl from opiates...
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Opioids Coffee enemas for opiate withdrawl?
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phr
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You need to use fresh ground french roast. 
It wouldn't do anything for your opiate withdrawal. You're going through withdrawal due to changes made by repeated activation of your opiate receptors. The coffee enema won't help activate them and it won't mitigate any of the wd symptoms.
It wouldn't do anything for your opiate withdrawal. You're going through withdrawal due to changes made by repeated activation of your opiate receptors. The coffee enema won't help activate them and it won't mitigate any of the wd symptoms.
sekio
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Coffee enemas used to be a cure for opiate overdose, not withdrawal. They don't "detox your liver" either.
Plus, coffee enemas, what the fuck. Can you seriously not just drink the coffee?
Plus, coffee enemas, what the fuck. Can you seriously not just drink the coffee?
I understand the logics behind the connection between coffee and liver; there have been a few studies that show the coffee has beneficial effects on the liver. But I don't understand why you're trying to apply this to opioid withdrawal? Are you assuming that increased liver function would make detoxification easier?
While there may be a kernel of truth in this
a) opioids are not known for hepatotoxicity, so your liver could very well be functioning very efficiently right now, especially if you're young
b) drinking/using a coffee enema once is not going to provide much benefit even if you're liver function was impaired.
Also, wtf made you think a coffee enema might be a good idea? As others have said, can't you just fucking drink it?
And most importantly, coffee could seriously exacerbate some of the withdrawal symptoms, like nausea, anxiety, and insomnia. So all in all, I'd say scrap this idea.
While there may be a kernel of truth in this
a) opioids are not known for hepatotoxicity, so your liver could very well be functioning very efficiently right now, especially if you're young
b) drinking/using a coffee enema once is not going to provide much benefit even if you're liver function was impaired.
Also, wtf made you think a coffee enema might be a good idea? As others have said, can't you just fucking drink it?
And most importantly, coffee could seriously exacerbate some of the withdrawal symptoms, like nausea, anxiety, and insomnia. So all in all, I'd say scrap this idea.
'medicine cabinet'
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Just make sure you let it cool down first.
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but no, i dont think coffee would do you any good. caffeine is going to raise ur BP and possibly make you feel more uncomfortable.
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but no, i dont think coffee would do you any good. caffeine is going to raise ur BP and possibly make you feel more uncomfortable.
GlassAss420
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Maybe a placebo effect if your w/d's are very mild??
Naw the w/d's are from chemical/electrical reactions in your brain missing the extra external opiates they've been recieving for however long..
Naw the w/d's are from chemical/electrical reactions in your brain missing the extra external opiates they've been recieving for however long..
WeThePeople
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You are a moderator on this site?! I dont appreciate the WTF from you as i was just looking for some info. And you could not be more wrong about coffee enemas detoxing your liver. thanks for nothing but being a smart ass moderator sekio
sekio
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I agree, i'm a 100% SMART ASS.
Seriously, think about it, hot coffee up your bum hole. If that isn't "out of place" to you, you must come from a very.... interesting... group of people.
And if cofee enemas could detox your liver, so would drinking coffee ('cause your liver is not in, nor is it directly supplied with blood by the lower intestines/colon) perhaps more effectively 'cause the small intestine can aborb all the flavins and stuff. Doing some cursory reading suggests that the believers in cofee enemas think it increases secretions and modifies physiology in some way that drinking coffee wouldn't, and I have a hard time believing that when "evidence" is backed up by words like "probably" and "it is hypothesized".
Seriously, think about it, hot coffee up your bum hole. If that isn't "out of place" to you, you must come from a very.... interesting... group of people.
And if cofee enemas could detox your liver, so would drinking coffee ('cause your liver is not in, nor is it directly supplied with blood by the lower intestines/colon) perhaps more effectively 'cause the small intestine can aborb all the flavins and stuff. Doing some cursory reading suggests that the believers in cofee enemas think it increases secretions and modifies physiology in some way that drinking coffee wouldn't, and I have a hard time believing that when "evidence" is backed up by words like "probably" and "it is hypothesized".
WeThePeople
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^^100% smart ass?! more like 100% Not Smart
I figured it would be obvious to most that you wouldnt use hot coffee. And the fact that you think that drinking coffee would have the same effect on the liver as an enema would just proves to me that you know NOTHING on this subject.
I was more thinking along the lines of the damage that could be done to your liver via fillers in many pills, mainly APAP. Getting your liver to release this 'crap' and return to normal function may make you feel better and get better faster...that is all i was wondering...im sorry if putting something in your arse is too much of an adult converstaion for you sekio...you should reasses your purpose for using this site, because you sound like an asshole who just wants to make smart ass unhelpful remarks
I figured it would be obvious to most that you wouldnt use hot coffee. And the fact that you think that drinking coffee would have the same effect on the liver as an enema would just proves to me that you know NOTHING on this subject.
I was more thinking along the lines of the damage that could be done to your liver via fillers in many pills, mainly APAP. Getting your liver to release this 'crap' and return to normal function may make you feel better and get better faster...that is all i was wondering...im sorry if putting something in your arse is too much of an adult converstaion for you sekio...you should reasses your purpose for using this site, because you sound like an asshole who just wants to make smart ass unhelpful remarks
sekio
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Spoilers, the "toxins" from APAP metabolism are not magically "stored" in your liver any more than they are "stored" in e.g. vescicles, muscles, and fat cells all over your body via diffusion. Even if you shoot a bunch of enzyme inducing flavonoids up your bunghole you aren't going to do anything your body won't already do in its own - coffee is certainly not loaded with N-acetyl cysteine.
From my POV a coffee enema, at best, mechanically cleanses your colon and allows rapid and complete absorbtion of caffeine and other active compounds in the brew, which can cause vasodialation. At best this would allow some osmotic effects to take place in the colon, but I seriously doubt that it would "draw toxins out" any more than natural bodily processes or even simple diffusion. In fact, there are cases of deaths from excessive enema usage caused by electrolyte imbalances. Vasodialation would take place in your body regardless of the route of absorbtion of the caffeine - it is fairly water soluble and rapidly distributed in the body.
Enlighten me, how exactly is a coffee enema physiologically different from drinking coffee, aside from possibly speed of absorbtion? I'm not really inclined to believe in baseless attack posts from a person with a post count of 3.
From my POV a coffee enema, at best, mechanically cleanses your colon and allows rapid and complete absorbtion of caffeine and other active compounds in the brew, which can cause vasodialation. At best this would allow some osmotic effects to take place in the colon, but I seriously doubt that it would "draw toxins out" any more than natural bodily processes or even simple diffusion. In fact, there are cases of deaths from excessive enema usage caused by electrolyte imbalances. Vasodialation would take place in your body regardless of the route of absorbtion of the caffeine - it is fairly water soluble and rapidly distributed in the body.
Enlighten me, how exactly is a coffee enema physiologically different from drinking coffee, aside from possibly speed of absorbtion? I'm not really inclined to believe in baseless attack posts from a person with a post count of 3.
Secobarbital
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This seems like the last thing on earth I would want to do while I was detoxing.
WeThePeople
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I have a post count of 3 because im new and came here for help. I now quickly see that was the wrong decision. Thanks Sekio for making me feel so welcome. If anything you just made me want to use again, you my friend, are very ignorant
Secobarbital
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Hmmmm..... Coffee is basically a stew of chemicals, quite a few of which have been proven *not* healthy. Your liver has to work to metabolize caffeine. The point of detoxing is to save your body from having to do all that normal work, and "catch up" on whatever it is you health nuts think isn't getting done. This seems like just another bass ackwards health nut bullshit thing to do to live "healthier". I assure you, putting coffee in your anal cavity will do one thing, increase the rate of absorption of all the chemicals. This, in turn, will cause your liver to have to metabolize them into other things. Actually, more-so than it would if you DRANK the coffee, which *isn't* good for you. So basically you are doing something slightly worse than drinking coffee, you are plugging it. Then there's the basic fact of YOU ARE PUTTING COFFEE UP YOUR ASS. What is wrong with you people. Why would you even want to live to be 80 years old so you can cost thousands of dollars in health care per week, and have other people wipe clean up all your shit while you sit there and drool on yourself watching tv all day, or talking to the f*cking wall. Part of the problem we have right now is the 1-5 people every family in america has in a nursing home. If we didn't keep people alive for so long when they would have died if we didn't keep "saving" them, we might be able to afford to take care of the people that could do something with healthcare besides sit in a wheel chair in the hall of a nursing home hoping someone will take you home.
sekio
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This thread is devolving now.
The only advice I can give regarding coffee enemas is: don't.
The only advice I can give regarding coffee enemas is: don't.
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