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Rolling alone (solo), Thoughts?

I personally think that the fear / thought of being 'found out / caught' by your wife / kids will really spoil the experience for you. Do you often just stay up all night listening to music and rubbing yourself whilst groaning or rolling on the floor with huge dilated pupils and sweating (even if you can hold it together do you often just stay up all night without your wife? If not she will suspect something is up/wrong and if she walks in and 'catches' you high then she could get a fright/be annoyed at you etc )

Set and setting play such an important part in the experience - you need to be able to relax and just let go. Why don't you just tell your wife that your interested in trying the substance and she what her reaction is? If she is hell bent on you trying the substance then it’s up to you what your next move is. If she is ok with it then all the better :).

I think going to a family concert (that your not really into) alone and using (for your first time) could turn into a bad experience - you may notice how alone you are (having sneaked away from your wife/kids to try x substance) and regret the full thing. It’s different if it was a more upbeat concert where other people will be using as you can always meet up with somebody else who is also high.

Can you not just be open/honest with your wife and tell her that you want to try the substance? Do your kids never stay at friends / family? Could you not arrange one night alone with your wife?
 
I personally would say Roll with your Gf...
What i wouldnt give to have a gf i can roll with..............

I think that solo rolling would be boring, but i guess its up to you if youd rather have the freedom to do whatever you want
 
I have a buddy that rolled alone for his first time. I think he just rode his bike around our neighborhood for a while. He is a quiet guy though so this probably had to do something with it. He said he enjoyed himself. I think that is the important part. Since then, he has rolled with me and my other friends present twice. I think we were maybe just smoking and drinking or something like that.
 
squarerootof23 said:
I hope what I'm asking is close enough to be considered on-topic. If not, I understand, I'm sorry, I'll delete/move it or whatever I ought to do with this posting.

I would really like to try MDMA. A lot. But, the network of people I am connected with consists of people who do not have access to MDMA, and who think that ever using any drug even once is a HORRIBLE THING. (This includes my wife and grown children.) So, I really have no idea how I'd ever come into contact with MDMA. (Maybe I never will. Probably never will. This makes me sad.)

I have been able to obtain bk-MDMA (m1, or methylone). From what I've read, it seems this is something kind of (?) close to MDMA in terms of effects. So, I thought, I should actually try this stuff sometime. (By the way: Does the term "rolling" apply only to MDMA, or also to methylone, mephedrone, etc.?)

I have always felt that what I'm curious about involves the social aspect of these substances. I've always felt that taking something like this alone would be kind of depressing. (I seldom drink alchohol, and have very rarely drank alone - and when I did drink alone, I didn't like it.) I was warned (via an email conversation with someone very familiar with both MDMA and m1, who lives very far away from me) that I should *NOT* take the m1 alone, that it is something that will leave me yearning for socializing. But, as I wrote above, I don't know anyone with whom I could share this experience.

So, I'm tempted to just try this alone. (The only drug I've ever used is marijuana - once. By myself, of course. The person who gave that to me was someone I met who was only temporarily in town, but lives about 1,000 miles away, and has no plans to be back in my area.)

It just so happens that my wife and daughters will be gone all day this coming Sunday doing girl stuff. So, Mr. 4.795831523 - that's me, the square root of 23 - will be home all by himself. So, finally, here are my questions:

1) What are the factors I should consider that will drive whether or not doing this alone will be a positive experience?

2) If I do this alone, what should I plan to do? (I see that there is a "Crafts and Knick-Knacks" marathon on the "Knitting Channel" this weekend! :\ )

3) Would it be better to do this late on Saturday night when the family is asleep, or should I just wait and do it during the day on Sunday?

4) On Sunday evening - after the wife and girls would get home, there is a concert in town. Should I consider going there (by myself)? (Here is what is written about the performer: "This gifted singer/songwriter/guitar slinger craftily melds a dash of Skynyrd with a sprinkle of Clapton, plus a smidge of Robert Johnson with a healthy serving of Stevie Ray to put forth his own style of rockin' blues gumbo.") I'm not crazy about Blues, but I think I'd like it. There will be A LOT of people there, and A LOT of families, since it is outdoors, the weather is predicted to be perfect, and the concert is free. Of course, driving there and back might be a problem (???). Or, would I likely be able to hide the effects enough that I could ask the wife to go to the concert with me?

Sorry, lot's of questions. Well, thanks in advance.
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If you're even fortunate enough to find some decent mdma(the only thing that makes u roll imo)your first time is gonna be overwhelming..in a fantastic way and it's not something youll be able to contain. u gotta have the rite ppl and setting. and you being sotally tober most ur life is another factor I'd take in consideration.

Step 1-Score(Patience is a virtue, don't waste ur 1st exp on some look-a-likes.)
Step 2-Coordinate a perfect setting for yourself or whoever else.(Get anything you might want or need first, you def shouldn't drive rolling.)
Step 3-I hate lying, but you know your situation better than me..so handle the wife or include her.
Step 4-Post back and let us know how it went.
 
Squareroot: First, you sent me a PM and I wrote a very long reply, only to find out I am unable to reply till I have like 100 posts. Sorry about that. I tried.

I TOTALLY get where you are in your situation, and don't blame you one bit for 1.) wanting to try MDMA, or M1 and 2.) needing to keep it a secret. Many people just don't understand, don't want to understand and are completely closed minded when it comes to any kind of drug. There is often absolutely no reasoning with with them.

In this instance, I really agree with what Bearlove stated regarding the fear of being "found out" ruining the roll. I have faced this before. The paranoia that comes from the thoughts of, "oh shit... did they just get back early?" and stuff like that really blows. Is there any way you could get out of the house, say, get a hotel room for the day, so you know you'll be alone, with no interruptions, and no way to be "walked in on"? If I were in your shoes, I'd find a way to get a room where I could have the time/space to truly be alone with the drug. Set and setting are SO important to really enjoy the roll.

If you don't take bumps after you drop, the effects of the M1 should only last a max of 5 hours. However, if you can't hold yourself to not taking extra doses to keep the "roll" going, you might want to make arrangements to stay the whole night in the hotel, or, leave any extra at home - keep it out of reach. Some feel that M1 is very "more-ish". I typically take two bumper doses at 1.5 and 3 hours later to extend my "roll". You will ONLY enjoy it though, if you can do it in a setting where you truly feel safe. (BTW... DO NOT DRIVE while on any drug.)

I would not do it at night, while your family is sleeping.

I would not recommend doing it at the concert. Your first time, in my opinion, should be done with a LOW dose, in a SAFE setting, and if you can't get a friend to watch you, to make sure you're safe, to do it alone, in a safe environment. (For what it's worth, I always write a little note with what I plan to take, when and how much in my room, so if ever things go wrong, and someone finds me, they know what to do.)

If you are able to do it alone - either in a hotel room, or at home on Sunday, I would recommend you bring an iPod with some great music - I really enjoy electronic (Deadmau5, Armin van Buuren, etc.). Also, if you're like most men, there is no way in hell you'll be able to get hard, and in my research, I have decided for myself, that it's unsafe to take viagra or cialis to counteract the effects. (I do take viagra with MDMA though). But touching, rubbing and such feels really good. It IS possible to orgasm, but that's tough to make happen with a limp member. :) Anyway... Whatever you naturally enjoy doing that involves the senses - touch especially - will be extra good on M1. Other than that, you can get in a really good headspace (mood) and really just LIVE THE FEELING - get in the moment and totally enjoy it.

The danger of doing any of this is that you will want to do it again and again.

Whatever you decide to do, I wish you the very best.
 
LogicSoDeveloped said:
I have a buddy that rolled alone for his first time. I think he just rode his bike around our neighborhood for a while. He is a quiet guy though so this probably had to do something with it. He said he enjoyed himself. I think that is the important part. Since then, he has rolled with me and my other friends present twice. I think we were maybe just smoking and drinking or something like that.
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Is this your friend?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ73KS0uxlY&feature=fvwrel
 
One time I popped my rolls, meaning to go to a party a few cities away and my ride bailed on me, I ended up talking my face off to a lot of people on my phone and online, dancing in my room to some great music and having a lot of introspective cuddle time with my pillow while I was too floored to dance or talk. I don't really think it was unpleasant, but I would prefer to be rolling with friends.
 
Squareroot: Awesome. Sounds like you have a good plan. I love it that you have someone to check on you. Enjoy. But, as this is a harm reduction site, I also want to ask a question I haven't seen, and I neglected to ask earlier, namely, HOW MUCH DO YOU PLAN TO TAKE?

The other risk I see in your situation is that different people react differently to different substances. It also matters if you are on or have been taking any other medications (such as SSRI's). Not that you want to toss all your personal information out here, but as you can tell, we're here to help and reduce risk as much as possible.

How will you measure your intake? What form is your M1? Are you ABSOLUTELY sure it's M1? Can you trust the source?

My M1 comes in powder form, and I have a .001 mg scale that I use to measure my doses carefully. For the record, I'm 39, 6'2", 185 pounds, take no medications, eat an average diet, and don't work out much. My first dose of Methylone was 250mg, but I also believe I have a fair tolerance for substances that mess with Seratonin, due to my usage of MDMA. However, based on the research I did, it was a good starting dose. I would encourage you to also consider whether or not you are typically 'sensitive' to medicines, etc. If you are, you might want to use a lower dose. Depending on that, and your build, you can adjust accordingly based on your best judgment.

I hope all goes well for you, and PLEASE report back to us on Monday to let us know how it went. We all can benefit from your story.

Be safe.
 
Sounds like you might want to actually think through your plan. HA HA HA.... I kid. Wow... you definitely have a plan there. Sounds good. I don't have much experience with Piracetam, but I believe it only has a 3-4 hour time in your system, so the pre-loading probably won't do much - it never has for me. However, taking a nice 1.5g dose 30 minutes prior to my M1 really helped a ton. I've tried it both ways. I've also read, but not confirmed that pre-loading with Piracetam can mitigate your roll somewhat. But, I think at this point it's all still conjecture.

Anyway... work the plan... it sounds well thought out and I'm super excited for you. Keep us posted!!! :)
 
Nothing beats rolling with a partner of the opposite sex, that's all I gotta say.
Good luck with your journey!
 
I've done it alone before and had a really good time, with an ipod and somewhere like a woods/forest is perfect. You feel the love from nature *hippy* :D
 
^^^ Haha I know what you're saying with that nature sht man. I love doing shrooms in the woods and just enjoying how awesome the world is lol.
On topic: I tried it once, and while it was awesome, it's much better when you're with people. Even when you're rolling face, listening to dubstep and chain-smoking ciggs for hours gets a little old without others to enjoy it with you.
 
Squareroot: I am SO excited for you. I'm SO glad it was such a great experience. I can not wait to hear your thoughts. And, if you want to send me a PM w/ your email, I'd be happy to correspond with you that way in the future, too (and respond to your prior PM). Being an observer to someone's first time experience, even if it is remotely through Bluelight, is so awesome. Congrats man.
 
I've done it once...shower, played my drums in the dark with a strobe light on, went in my pool, music in bed with vibrating headphones....etc xtc....
 
i personally wouldnt plan on doing it again myself but i did it once and it was pretty nice to just melt into the sofa with a blanket and watch the beach (the film)
 
Everytime I roll alone I always end up calling all my friends at 2 in the morning to see if they wanna kick it. It truly is boring, a waste of a pill in my opinion.
 
its boring unless you wanna put headphones on or use a massage chair... especially if you just wanna dance your fkn ass off. well you could do that in your own room... but you might get caught.
 
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