Change your ROA... for example, if you were smoking, snort in small quantities more frequently to keep your use more under control. Smoking is a blast (literally) and repeated such blasts deafen your dopamine receptors so you sort of stop hearing the blasts but keep firing anyway... that's when things get insane, for me anyway.
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MDPV - So how dangerous is it?
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JillyBean81
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I started using MDPV about a month ago and at first I hated it. The first week I was on it (didnt take it everyday) I puked my guts out. Later I was told that the stuff my friend had was mixed with other types of salts......DONT MIX. I swore I would never do it again but a couple of weeks later I gave it another try and had a much better experience. There was only one time where I had hallucinations due do the fact that I was doing bumps so close together. The best experience was doing xtc with it, I couldnt stop laughing. Do a couple of small bumps with e and all is well. I have also mixed it with coke and that gave a intense high, but not too intense. Lastly I have take percocet with it and that as well gave an intense high. I must tell you that I weigh less than 110, 29yrs old, and have high cholestrol....yes I know I shouldnt be doing these things with my health condition but.....wtf. Some of my friends have tried taking a bath and they did not get good reactions so the bath is going to vary from person to person (duh) If I do too much and Im running around I sweat a lot........drink plenty of water!
I started using MDPV about a month ago and at first I hated it. The first week I was on it (didnt take it everyday) I puked my guts out. Later I was told that the stuff my friend had was mixed with other types of salts......DONT MIX. I swore I would never do it again but a couple of weeks later I gave it another try and had a much better experience. There was only one time where I had hallucinations due do the fact that I was doing bumps so close together. The best experience was doing xtc with it, I couldnt stop laughing. Do a couple of small bumps with e and all is well. I have also mixed it with coke and that gave a intense high, but not too intense. Lastly I have take percocet with it and that as well gave an intense high. I must tell you that I weigh less than 110, 29yrs old, and have high cholestrol....yes I know I shouldnt be doing these things with my health condition but.....wtf. Some of my friends have tried taking a bath and they did not get good reactions so the bath is going to vary from person to person (duh) If I do too much and Im running around I sweat a lot........drink plenty of water!
FlippingTop
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I started using MDPV about a month ago and at first I hated it. The first week I was on it (didnt take it everyday) I puked my guts out. Later I was told that the stuff my friend had was mixed with other types of salts......DONT MIX. I swore I would never do it again but a couple of weeks later I gave it another try and had a much better experience. There was only one time where I had hallucinations due do the fact that I was doing bumps so close together. The best experience was doing xtc with it, I couldnt stop laughing. Do a couple of small bumps with e and all is well. I have also mixed it with coke and that gave a intense high, but not too intense. Lastly I have take percocet with it and that as well gave an intense high. I must tell you that I weigh less than 110, 29yrs old, and have high cholestrol....yes I know I shouldnt be doing these things with my health condition but.....wtf. Some of my friends have tried taking a bath and they did not get good reactions so the bath is going to vary from person to person (duh) If I do too much and Im running around I sweat a lot........drink plenty of water!
Shouldn't is a Massive understatement. Value yourself mate...
ebola?
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It's hard to tell for sure, though it clearly has something to do with rapid, dramatic peripheral vasoconstriction coupled with increased BP. Perhaps it's just that MDPV's wide therapeutic index allows people to go further on binges more frequently than with other stimulants. Why not visit a doctor?
ebola
Well said, CapitalSigma. I've done this substance a couple times, at first taking small doses orally, after which I got rid of it because I didn't "get" the drug. I saw no reason to try it again; no euphoria with slight (but not readily usable) stimulation. Alas, months later I got some for free, and figured I'd give it a shot one more time... this time eyeballing bumps out every half hour or so until the desired effect was reached. I "got" the drug. Incredible stimulation, huge push to communicate, mainly through writing, massively satisfying. Later on in my 48 hour session, I would come to notice after a bump would come 30-60 minutes of good dopamine satisfaction followed on by lots of jittery, scatterbrained stimulation. Writing was not easy during the jittery stimulant phase, but still flowed upon readministration of a 5mg bump. Eventually, I felt myself succumbing to the "one more" phenomenon. After a bump, I would call it quits and put it away. The jittery stimulation would come back, and I'd be logically arguing with myself to redose, time and time again. This scared me deeply, so I flushed the remaining 3.9 grams. I have never flushed anything before, and I really thought it was stupid to do so, until this experience. I am glad to see this one under legal scrutiny in the US, as I find the positive is far outweighed by the negative. This is just as powerful and addictive as any illegal, scheduled drug, and the fact that the smallest quantity you can typically buy is enough for two-hundred 5mg doses. This, combined with a short peak drenched in dopamine confidence and satisfaction followed on by a lengthy, anxiety ridden stimulation is a perfect recipe for losing control with redosing and staying up/doing much more than you intend. I know, this is just another one of "those" MDPV stories, and you might play this off as someone with weak self-control... because I thought the same about every one of the negative MDPV stories I heard.
tl;dr notes:
-extremely satisfying dopamineric aspect, at least for the first 12 hours or so
-causes intense verbal diarrhea. despite this, not good for "working" writing.
-jittery, long-lasting, anxiety ridden stimulation following a soaring dopamine high = redosing, even if you think it won't happen to you.
-aforementioned anxiety-stimulation turned into a full blown anxiety ridden panic state that lasted for far, far too long
-therapeutic ratio seems to be very high with this one, at least physically speaking.
Measure your doses. Have a benzo/z-drug/ethanol on hand to terminate the experience.
Better yet, pass this substance by, as there are much better things out there.
tl;dr notes:
-extremely satisfying dopamineric aspect, at least for the first 12 hours or so
-causes intense verbal diarrhea. despite this, not good for "working" writing.
-jittery, long-lasting, anxiety ridden stimulation following a soaring dopamine high = redosing, even if you think it won't happen to you.
-aforementioned anxiety-stimulation turned into a full blown anxiety ridden panic state that lasted for far, far too long
-therapeutic ratio seems to be very high with this one, at least physically speaking.
Measure your doses. Have a benzo/z-drug/ethanol on hand to terminate the experience.
Better yet, pass this substance by, as there are much better things out there.
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While I am not a dermatologist, what you're describing sounds a lot like minor petechiae.
Wikipedia has a good example of nonthrombocytopenic purpura if you view the Henoch–Schönlein purpura page.
Should that prove true, you definitely need to take a break, or find some way to lower your blood pressure.
Rusted Chains
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Ah yes, the "had a marginal experience with a drug and now wants it banned" syndrome. Is prohibition ever the right answer? Will making pv illegal really solve any problems? Think long and hard on these questions young Jedi. Interesting how you try to justify why it should be banned. You slid down the slippery slope without even realizing it...
I would prefer that drugs were legalized, as I think if other stimulants were legal (d-amp, methamp) people would have never turned to MDPV in the first place. The fact that MDPV is easily available to uneducated consumers is a disaster waiting to happen. At least with illegal stimulants, you have to come into contact with a dealer who is probably experienced in the use of the drug, and can recommend a starting dosage, routes of administration, how much is too much, etc. Prohibition is not the answer, but in this case I believe it is the lesser of two evils.
Please bare with me as this is ramblings/thoughts from a person on MDPV/Bath Salts (ME!!!):
This is my first post on here and its coming from a side of concern and confusion as I sit at my computer typing away having just experienced MDPV for the second day in a row(yesterday 1/2 a bag, the smaller one over a 8hr span, not sure on the mg and now today 1.5 bags in a 7hr span doing .5 of a small bag in one snort, as i find my tolerance to this NEW drug induced stupor). I have experienced many other drugs such as: marijuana (makes me much more paranoid than MDPV), LSD (shrooms and blotter acid), PCP, crack, cocaine (almost as addictive as MDPV but the side effects for cocaine are worse for me: bad upset stomach and chest pains...due to the cutter used), pain killers which turned to heroin(2.5yr addiction/still battling), and now MDPV. MDPV seems very dangerous because of how it is making me feel: very stimulated, my concentration is through the roof but very hard to type, slightly paranoid but not to much (scared my fiancée will walk in as i type this), very social (can't sleep as I sit here and want to talk to someone because my fiancée is sleeping, hence the long ramblings, it's 12:35AM here now), and VERY ADDICTIVE!!!---this is the dangerous part because the only bad side affect I've had was a bad migraine last night when it wore off (not sure if this is a common side affect or not?) Like i mentioned before I've been on painkillers and heroin now for 2.5yrs and this seem a lot more addictive (never tried Meth but from the story's and documentaries MDPV seems very similar). Also, I think I'm lucky so-far because I've had no such thoughts of suicide or doing bodily harm to myself or hallucinations( i think that is a side affect of the lack of sleep or dosage; in which i snorted half a bag in one shot on my second time). Sorry for the long and drawn out fragments of thoughts that i attempt to put into sentence form, but as many of you that tried MDPV may know, it is tough type and think clearly but makes you want to talk (hence the long drawn-out post).
Point of the post is this: I just wanted to share my thoughts of this experience and hope that I don't become ADDICTED like many I've heard about and that I become sober for my 2.5yr old, soon to be 3 yr old daughter and fiancee...they don't deserve a drug addict Dad/Husband. Hopefully I will be able to practice what I preach, so to say, and PLEASE BE CAREFUL with this sh!t it's only been 2 days and this stuff has me feinin' it BADLY (it's Friday night now 1:07AM I started typing at 11:00PM and I have work tomorrow at 7AM and I'm scare-fully considering pulling an all-nighter On this stuff, because I still have almost 2 full bags left...but I'm also considering taking some Ambein to go to bed...what to do give in to the urge or do the best thing and attempt to sleep???
THANKS to anyone who read/listened to my thoughts and opinions on MDPV/bath salts...
This is my first post on here and its coming from a side of concern and confusion as I sit at my computer typing away having just experienced MDPV for the second day in a row(yesterday 1/2 a bag, the smaller one over a 8hr span, not sure on the mg and now today 1.5 bags in a 7hr span doing .5 of a small bag in one snort, as i find my tolerance to this NEW drug induced stupor). I have experienced many other drugs such as: marijuana (makes me much more paranoid than MDPV), LSD (shrooms and blotter acid), PCP, crack, cocaine (almost as addictive as MDPV but the side effects for cocaine are worse for me: bad upset stomach and chest pains...due to the cutter used), pain killers which turned to heroin(2.5yr addiction/still battling), and now MDPV. MDPV seems very dangerous because of how it is making me feel: very stimulated, my concentration is through the roof but very hard to type, slightly paranoid but not to much (scared my fiancée will walk in as i type this), very social (can't sleep as I sit here and want to talk to someone because my fiancée is sleeping, hence the long ramblings, it's 12:35AM here now), and VERY ADDICTIVE!!!---this is the dangerous part because the only bad side affect I've had was a bad migraine last night when it wore off (not sure if this is a common side affect or not?) Like i mentioned before I've been on painkillers and heroin now for 2.5yrs and this seem a lot more addictive (never tried Meth but from the story's and documentaries MDPV seems very similar). Also, I think I'm lucky so-far because I've had no such thoughts of suicide or doing bodily harm to myself or hallucinations( i think that is a side affect of the lack of sleep or dosage; in which i snorted half a bag in one shot on my second time). Sorry for the long and drawn out fragments of thoughts that i attempt to put into sentence form, but as many of you that tried MDPV may know, it is tough type and think clearly but makes you want to talk (hence the long drawn-out post).
Point of the post is this: I just wanted to share my thoughts of this experience and hope that I don't become ADDICTED like many I've heard about and that I become sober for my 2.5yr old, soon to be 3 yr old daughter and fiancee...they don't deserve a drug addict Dad/Husband. Hopefully I will be able to practice what I preach, so to say, and PLEASE BE CAREFUL with this sh!t it's only been 2 days and this stuff has me feinin' it BADLY (it's Friday night now 1:07AM I started typing at 11:00PM and I have work tomorrow at 7AM and I'm scare-fully considering pulling an all-nighter On this stuff, because I still have almost 2 full bags left...but I'm also considering taking some Ambein to go to bed...what to do give in to the urge or do the best thing and attempt to sleep???
THANKS to anyone who read/listened to my thoughts and opinions on MDPV/bath salts...
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Please bare with me as this is ramblings/thoughts from a person on MDPV/Bath Salts (ME!!!):
This is my first post on here and its coming from a side of concern and confusion as I sit at my computer typing away having just experienced MDPV for the second day in a row(yesterday 1/2 a bag, the smaller one over a 8hr span, not sure on the mg and now today 1.5 bags in a 7hr span doing .5 of a small bag in one snort, as i find my tolerance to this NEW drug induced stupor). I have experienced many other drugs such as: marijuana (makes me much more paranoid than MDPV), LSD (shrooms and blotter acid), PCP, crack, cocaine (almost as addictive as MDPV but the side effects for cocaine are worse for me: bad upset stomach and chest pains...due to the cutter used), pain killers which turned to heroin(2.5yr addiction/still battling), and now MDPV. MDPV seems very dangerous because of how it is making me feel: very stimulated, my concentration is through the roof but very hard to type, slightly paranoid but not to much (scared my fiancée will walk in as i type this), very social (can't sleep as I sit here and want to talk to someone because my fiancée is sleeping, hence the long ramblings, it's 12:35AM here now), and VERY ADDICTIVE!!!---this is the dangerous part because the only bad side affect I've had was a bad migraine last night when it wore off (not sure if this is a common side affect or not?) Like i mentioned before I've been on painkillers and heroin now for 2.5yrs and this seem a lot more addictive (never tried Meth but from the story's and documentaries MDPV seems very similar). Also, I think I'm lucky so-far because I've had no such thoughts of suicide or doing bodily harm to myself or hallucinations( i think that is a side affect of the lack of sleep or dosage; in which i snorted half a bag in one shot on my second time). Sorry for the long and drawn out fragments of thoughts that i attempt to put into sentence form, but as many of you that tried MDPV may know, it is tough type and think clearly but makes you want to talk (hence the long drawn-out post).
Point of the post is this: I just wanted to share my thoughts of this experience and hope that I don't become ADDICTED like many I've heard about and that I become sober for my 2.5yr old, soon to be 3 yr old daughter and fiancee...they don't deserve a drug addict Dad/Husband. Hopefully I will be able to practice what I preach, so to say, and PLEASE BE CAREFUL with this sh!t it's only been 2 days and this stuff has me feinin' it BADLY (it's Friday night now 1:07AM I started typing at 11:00PM and I have work tomorrow at 7AM and I'm scare-fully considering pulling an all-nighter On this stuff, because I still have almost 2 full bags left...but I'm also considering taking some Ambein to go to bed...what to do give in to the urge or do the best thing and attempt to sleep???
THANKS to anyone who read/listened to my thoughts and opinions on MDPV/bath salts...
Follow up of my third straight day of snorting MDPV and the only negative I've experienced has been not being able to sleep and slight paranoia, but other than that its made me very, very social and been very euphoric(hence the continuation of use). I just can't see how using this does any good to my internal organs and brain function.
I posted this in another thread but I think that a copy would be relevant here:
Well..............don't ask how I obtained this; but this what one of the more popular 'bath salt' brands (on the west coast; I've seen patients and even some hospital staff with these bags) does NOT contain, and is now legal in all US states (the original formulation contained MDPV, at a surprisingly high purity). The new formulation as pictured below likely contains some stimulant (probably NOT dimethocaine), so im curious as to what it actually DOES contain....
Well..............don't ask how I obtained this; but this what one of the more popular 'bath salt' brands (on the west coast; I've seen patients and even some hospital staff with these bags) does NOT contain, and is now legal in all US states (the original formulation contained MDPV, at a surprisingly high purity). The new formulation as pictured below likely contains some stimulant (probably NOT dimethocaine), so im curious as to what it actually DOES contain....
cj
Bluelight Crew
Be careful man I was up for 5 days the last binge I went on and was fully convinced the DEA was about to kick in my door I mean I was fully fucking dillusional. It it with little warning like I went from spun to dillusional really quick.
LogicSoDeveloped
Bluelighter
I'm afraid to try this stuff and reading these horror stories, among others, I am glad I've stayed away from this drug. Other stimulants should be legal, they seem to have negative consequences from abuse but not so quickly like this stuff.
After six months of daily PV use the negatives are finally starting to be to much. The constant vascon sucks. And the other day I was at work and hit my arm on something. It hurt but was nothing to crazy out of the ordinary. However I woke up the next morning to find myself with this bruse on my arm. Is it pv related you think?
I have had it for four or five days now and its not got any better at all.
I have had it for four or five days now and its not got any better at all.
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In the beginning it made me really high compared to what i was used to. I got jittery, jaw claws, could not sit still, mucle cramps etc... But that went away, but then the psycosis started. So I won't do these mdpv binges anymore. I was admitted and had to go to a hospital and shit. I never told them about the mdpv, they thought the psycosis came from 4 days with no sleep, no food, dehydration. Never asked about any drugs...
jbm242
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I've done many stimulants in my time and only twice have I had full on psychosis. First with massive doses of insufflated methylphenidate and later with smoking MDPV. I'm cured of it. MDPV sends me straight into "the DEA is in the bushes" thinking and the cardiac symptoms are horrible! No other stimulant has ever had me as spun as MDPV.
FlippingTop
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I was heavily addicted to MDPV, and with constant high dosing/lack of sleep+food pretty much everything goes wrong with your body that can, including bruising easily.
I would stop all together if I was you, eat healthily and get enough rest and exercise. I have fully recovered from any negatives and I was dosing into the hundreds for a bit.
If you want any help/advice with this feel free to drop me a PM.
I would stop all together if I was you, eat healthily and get enough rest and exercise. I have fully recovered from any negatives and I was dosing into the hundreds for a bit.
If you want any help/advice with this feel free to drop me a PM.
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After six months of daily PV use the negatives are finally starting to be to much. The constant vascon sucks. And the other day I was at work and hit my arm on something. It hurt but was nothing to crazy out of the ordinary. However I woke up the next morning to find myself with this bruse on my arm. Is it pv related you think?
I have had it for four or five days now and its not got any better at all.
Curious... is it possible you hit yourself a lot harder than you thought, but you were all coked up on PV so it didn't feel like much? This could happen I reckon (well, to me anyway-haha).
BTW, community, I will share my MDPV research soon. It'll be a LONG post, but I really hope it will help someone. I feel I have a bit of a unique perspective/experience with this stuff. This chemical has had such a profound effect on my life, it is hard to put to words. I always learn things from "drugs" but this one has been a real surprise to me at this point in my life (age 37, approx 20 years experience with other kinds of "research").
Need some time, to pull this all together, though. Super highs, rock-bottomesque lows (I thought I might actually die a couple of time recently). Will explain soon... but in the meantime, please be careful folks... and take a few days off between days on ; )
Sounds scarily similar to my situation also. Although to tell my story would be just too long and a bit too personal to fully explain on a public forum. Life changing stuff, in so many ways, some explainable, some unfathomable, and some that could just not happen any other way imaginable. Look beyond the gut wrenching lows, heart warming highs and mental "tornado" of thoughts and feelings though, and there is a priceless, otherwise unobtainable perspective on everything previously unexplainable or undecidable . Very strange, yet so ridiculously true, but ultimately priceless
