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just stocked up ! (RC combination questions)

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My mouth got pretty sore after I did MPA mixed with MDAI for one day, not that much maybe 200-300 mg MPA and <50 mg MDAI, spread throughout the day. Then I did some more MPA the next day (I did sleep that night some), not nearly as much as the first. All plug to help the stomach handle it (MPA makes me nauseous) and keep dosing lower. Then my mouth was real sore lol. I had done MPA previously a few times but not with the MDAI and never 2 days in a row. Meth mouth. =(

Well, I still got a ton left for a bunch of rainy days, over the next 10 years because I won't be taking it very often. Although it does increase my productivity quite a bit. =)

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Also I find 6-APB combines well with tryptamines, as long as you keep the tryptamine dose low. Just avoid the urge to redose the tryptamine. 5-10 mg is all you ever need with those things!
 
Don't combine any of them, there are too many reports on unexpected stimulant drug-drug interactions already and the number is still growing unfortunately. :(

If you just stocked up on them you should take a good while to try them on their own and wait the appropriate time in-between instead of wondering how to use them inappropriately. No offense.
 
been a great weekend on abp's :)! just mixed them both the together and started takin small bombs... wasnt to inteanse didnt think i had taken enough for the come up etc to be epic. personaly i think one of the abp's mightve been alot weaker ? maybe just the company i purchased from sellin shit ? maybe i was just that fucked lol. either way they mix well :D !
 
Solipsis said:
Don't combine any of them, there are too many reports on unexpected stimulant drug-drug interactions already and the number is still growing unfortunately. :(

If you just stocked up on them you should take a good while to try them on their own and wait the appropriate time in-between instead of wondering how to use them inappropriately. No offense.
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I agree that they should be taken first before in combos for various reasons, but 5/6-apb is a combo I've read enough trip reports on to see that it seems pretty benign. I can't imagine any serious contraindications between them given how similar they are, rather just a sort of stacking effect with the unique differences between the two synergizing.
 
IamMe90 said:
I agree that they should be taken first before in combos for various reasons, but 5/6-apb is a combo I've read enough trip reports on to see that it seems pretty benign. I can't imagine any serious contraindications between them given how similar they are, rather just a sort of stacking effect with the unique differences between the two synergizing.
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I suppose one danger to look out for with a 5/6-APB combo is overstimulation. Probably causes massive serotonin/dopamine/adrenaline release too. Prepare for a GOD AWFUL comedown. Brain zaps that shake your body through and through. Buy plenty of 5-HTP from Holland & Barrett to see you through the following week.
 
JSPete said:
I suppose one danger to look out for with a 5/6-APB combo is overstimulation. Probably causes massive serotonin/dopamine/adrenaline release too. Prepare for a GOD AWFUL comedown. Brain zaps that shake your body through and through. Buy plenty of 5-HTP from Holland & Barrett to see you through the following week.
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I am skeptical that the come down would be any worse than amphetamine-cut rolls, MDMA/stim combos, or other stim combos that are pretty well tested and enjoyed such as 4-fa/m1 (which aren't so bad - people survive meth cut rolls all the time). But eh, YMMV.
 
Hmm my comedowns always involve brain zaps and off-moods. YMMVFTW.
 
Also before mixing these possibly hazardous chemicals with eachother try mixing each of them individually with Cannabis, if you're into that sort of thing:)
 
IamMe90 said:
I agree that they should be taken first before in combos for various reasons, but 5/6-apb is a combo I've read enough trip reports on to see that it seems pretty benign. I can't imagine any serious contraindications between them given how similar they are, rather just a sort of stacking effect with the unique differences between the two synergizing.
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Apart from what JSPete is saying I agree that it seems 5-APB + 6-APB would be the least harmful or the least different from either one alone, it makes sense that this would be so and experience seem to confirm it at first glance. I had not realized this when I posted earlier, so that one is exempt.

Things like MPA though... I would not even try by themselves let alone combined with other things.

And everyone should be damn careful with MXE. I soon lost appetite for it and don't trust the stuff to be honest. I also have little desire to see people find out the hard way what is not yet clearly known about addiction potential, long-term (adverse) effects or drug-drug interaction. But there are other designated threads for that.
 
Solipsis said:
Apart from what JSPete is saying I agree that it seems 5-APB + 6-APB would be the least harmful or the least different from either one alone, it makes sense that this would be so and experience seem to confirm it at first glance. I had not realized this when I posted earlier, so that one is exempt.

Things like MPA though... I would not even try by themselves let alone combined with other things.

And everyone should be damn careful with MXE. I soon lost appetite for it and don't trust the stuff to be honest. I also have little desire to see people find out the hard way what is not yet clearly known about addiction potential, long-term (adverse) effects or drug-drug interaction. But there are other designated threads for that.
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Whats wrong with MPA? I rather like MPA myself (though admittedly, I tend to use small amounts day-to-day, and can't really see the utility in using it to get wasted).
 
I think Solipsis' issue with novel research stimulants such as MPA is how VERY new they are to human consumption. Until something has a generally accepted level of safety in a given dosage range there is no way for you to kno if you are the one in 50 who will die at a given level of stimulation. Look into the term "LD50" and see how willing you are to dose exotic and new chems...... Look at the dose response curve in something like 2c-t-7, something with comparatively long history of human consumption... 30mgs oral and you'll probably be ok when you come down, insufflate that same dosage and you are treading very dangerous waters...

I, like Solipsis, refuse to take substances which are not at least a year or two under the belt of our "research" community.
 
Not exactly, I am willing to try 25X-NBOMe compounds for instance. It's rather the combination of being a research chemical that indeed does not seem to have been researched apart from that German chem publication... combined with the fact that it's a meth analogue. It is a little hypocritical of me since I was okay with testing pyrrolidine compounds when they first became available like MDPV and a-PPP which of course are cathinone analogues. I have also tried a good number of amphetamine analogues and similar stimulants but a while ago I came to think that most of them are bad ideas with worse things waiting to happen. I now refuse to take almost all of those stimulants which brings me back to my stance on MPA: it's the epitome of that refusal.
 
dont try mxe and methylone I had around 50mg MXE then 2 hours later 100mg Methylone (both very mild doses) and had mild seretonin syndrome like effects, heart rate up body overheating had to get into bed was crippled for a couple of hours then rather suddenly became fine. This and the guy who died from MDAI and MXE leads me to believe there are potentially serious hazards with mixing MDXX substances with Methoxetamine
 
Well, I guess I'll refresh this thread.
I also just recently ordered my first batch of RCs.
I will of course research each compound independently before combining them, but I want to get some research done.
I'll now give you a list of my compounds: 2C-E, 2C-P, DOC, AM-2201, JWH-210, MXE, 5-MeO-DMT.
Please, any recommendations or information would be appreciated.
 
^ I would recommend reading this forum and other forums to get as much information as possible before researching further. Erowid is also a great resource to get information from. You may want to look at researching each compound in the order that you have them listed, with the exception to the cannaboids and possibly MXE (i.e. 2C-E > 2C-P > DOC > 5-MeO-DMT). Happy researching!!
 
This thread is not meant to become a place where you can dump a list of substances and let people give you generic advice. You need to do research yourself on every single compound separately and proceed slowly and carefully from there. I will consider attempts at advice that undermine this correct approach counter to harm reduction so it may be modded.

So yes after that warning has been issued.... to sound more positive you are welcomed to read this forum, most of all checking each thread on every separate compound. You can find most of them using the Psychedelic Index, a link to which is in my signature below. If you have any general questions about that, shoot. Until then: realize that ordering a shitload of research chemicals and digging in like they are just random powdered drugs that make you feel wonky or good, that's a good way to get yourself hospitalized or worse.

A few ground rules: do NOT combine anything until you have built yourself a good basis of experience with each of the drugs themselves. Also first investigate if there are any counterindications, meaning check if there are drugs you cannot combine because it would be dangerous. Check first, don't be a fool who takes things first and asks questions later, or you are just asking for it and tempting fate. I'm not trying to be a dick but instead want to prevent you from becoming another train-wreck statistic who can add their sorry account of misery to the erowid archives. I also don't necessarily presume you would be stupid enough to get into this sort of trouble but rather want to send a message out to other people reading this thread with some kind of mindset.... like a thought similar to "I've got this and this and this, can I just dig in?". You say in your post yourself that you will research each compound seperately. So what then would you like of this thread?
Sorry but we really do avoid threads that come close to 'which ones of these should I buy?', because it's all the same nonsense of seeing if someone else can do your homework. :)

/harsh

Respect the chemicals and take good care of your body and mind.
 
been offline for a while but im back :)!

i had told my friend about RC's and he wanted to order a little of amt as i still had mine, so he got 100mg's! he done his research and i shared what i knew with him. we agreed we would drop it on friday at a party we were going to.
We split the 200mg's into ten capsules so we could ensure we were safe while redosing ;) we had 3 and half each.... fuck me ! the jaw is crazy, i couldnt really talk ? it was bouncing like i was in the artic lol my friend on the other hand spoke verbal shit about parshnip's, springonions and his step dad coming from the cabbage patch lol ! sayin "unite with us be one with the veggies!" it was brilliant !

i didnt get all the much visuals but i started to get chasers when stuff got moved. at one point i got a massive rush! the jaw stopped, my leg stopped rattling, i was kinda blown away like i was gettin fired into a full on trip ! it was like the floor slipped one way and the roof went the other lol. it only lasted a few minutes then i was back to my normal jaw swinging way but with a trippy feel, colours were brighter, still getting the chasers and sometime objects seemed slightly warped .

it was great ! :) comedown wasnt to bad. once i ate and started smoking some weed i was sorted ! still very tired but nothing to moan about :)

anyone think its like a very clean clear E high ?
 
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Yes well I think it's definitely MDMA-like, but not necessarily more clean and clear. It may seem that way if your MDMA is not up to par perhaps. To me, aMT is more dilated and drawn out, it feels like more quality time and less like the world is so great and perfect that it almost must be coming to an end soon. I have appreciated my MDMA experiences a lot but honestly part of the effect is a bit 'too much' and superfluous too me. Over the top is a better term probably.

I think you didn't dose very responsibly, those are quite high doses. No wonder you got such unworldly effects. I'm glad it was positive for you but I wouldn't recommend either doing that too often or doing it in such high doses. 50 mg seems more reasonable. Results do vary between people but I'm not getting the impression you assayd it yourself that much to come to that conclusion. I also think it's irresponsible to give someone such a dose for their first time. Not trying to rain on your parade and you can make your own choices, I just have my own opinion and I am saying: I wouldn't. :)

I'm also not surprised your jaw was out of control, that is exactly a sign that you are exaggerating it with your dose, whether its MDMA or aMT or another empathogen or stimulant. But again: I'm glad you had a nice time so if there is no harm done, thats good. Though the harder you keep pushing something like this the sooner it will cause you to get more side-effects and perhaps things like depression. Prevent that from happening, will you?

Also, why not post this in the Big & Dandy aMT Thread? If you want your own personal place to post things I believe we have a blog function for that now.
 
my friend was very experienced in other drugs and had a good few years of getting wasted on me so i was confident he would be fine. still i understand where your coming from :) i was expecting alot more visuals, certainly on that dose. do you build a tollerence quickly ?!

love this stuff lots!!!
 
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