The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine Thread - 4th Dose (don't overdose)

[oSpherical]

So I'm wondering if 15mg made me feel sick if I should just give up on MXE or try a bigger dose

Yes. I tried 10mg my first time and disliked it, it felt cold and uncomfortable. Higher doses really liven things up and get rid of many of the bad parts and worries of MXE

 

[frontbluntt]

Yes. I tried 10mg my first time and disliked it, it felt cold and uncomfortable. Higher doses really liven things up and get rid of many of the bad parts and worries of MXE

This gives me some new hope, I just want to be sure that it won't be twice as bad as the first time, because my first time sucked, felt like I had the flu for hours and hours. Should I try 30mg then?

 

[drugs]

Had another attempt at mxe a few days ago. Probably around 20-30mg. It was hard to really tell if anything was different at all, things felt a bit softer around the edges, vision was slightly blurred, and I felt a bit more relaxed. My heartrate increased somewhat, but nothing alarming. I must say I find this compound rather uninteresting so far, after two separate trials. Im starting to think I might have impure mxe. I will probably try a larger dose next time to see if there is anything worthwhile to this chem at all.

 

[missimoo]

ive been sunbathing with headphones on. ive had 3 100mg lines so far. i have CEVs and feel quite relaxed but im not at all dissociated. closing eyes and listening to music is nice but im not being sent into space or carried away (which is probably a good thing as im sunbathing on my roof).........tea?

 

[e1evene1even]

I'm still really enjoying MXE, but have noticed a bit of the magic is gone (still lots of magic though!). I finally got the crystalline batch, and too my surprise it was noticeably stronger. I only have 250mg of it and 10gr of another batch so I'll probably use the other stuff for the most part.

Had a panic attack/apocalyptic trip at a festival with had been taking MXE throughout the day then took a hit of acid, then another 25mg of MXE. Everything was fine until I smoked weed, then I was convinced that the universe showed me the lesson I was supposed to learn in my life and now I was going to die.

I had gotten a lot of sun so my head was really hot which made me think I was overheating which didn't help.

It could've been a pretty rough time (or transformative mystical experience), but I just knocked myself out with xanax and woke up feeling fine.

Going to another festival soon and I'll probably be using a lot of MXE, but I'm going to avoid combos and weed especially...

 

[transitioneer]

I found mxe to be a very fun, warm drug... Not quite the "raw" feeling of dissociation like ketamine, but I still found walking to be a bit of a task on higher doses. At a festival I recently went to, I started off the 1st day by dosing mxe all day, from 2am-8pm I was doing sublingual "bumps" from my bag fairly often. I was aiming for 25mg each time but I don't know the exact amount I was getting. At around 3-4pm I dosed 20mg of 4-aco-dmt and smoked plenty of weed. The ensuing closed eye visuals were very rewarding. Smoked DMT a little bit later on was also pristine. I had imagined smoked DMT to be great on mxe when I was on 50mg plugged, but I did not have the motivation to get up and load/smoke my pipe lol.

I felt very grateful for how smoothly everything was going, as last time I dosed 4aco at a show, I was a little too "in my head" ... but there was nothing going on in my head... very odd. Although I did dose 35mg, and it was my first time with the compound. I don't know if the mxe warm-ness overrode any weird emptiness that 4aco would have brought me, or whether it was the substantially lowered dose...

Either way, I clearly found mxe to be a worthwhile chem, but perhaps a bit more addictive than ketamine already is. The warm-ness of the body high is, for me, what causes this. When I'm on ketamine I'm more inclined to think deeply, but from a different perspective than usual... On mxe, I find it very easy to meditate/turn my brain off, while feeling all warm and fuzzy.

 

[oSpherical]

The last 2g I got off (imo) the most reliable vendor in the UK lasted me 3 days... and this is still after a large tolerance break.
Doses of 300mg were still leaving me able to talk and walk fine.
2 months ago, after constant usage for a few months, at the peak of my tolerance, 100mg would have me absolutely floored and 2g would last a week minimum.

I believe that there is a bad batch of MXE going around from even the top vendors. It tasted of MXE and and had a few of the effects, but so much seemed to be missing and it simply wasn't trippy.

I had some MXE back in May after a rest over a month and all the MXE magic was back... I can't see where it could have disappeared.

 

[AndroidsDreamofBTC]

The last 2g I got off (imo) the most reliable vendor in the UK lasted me 3 days... and this is still after a large tolerance break.
Doses of 300mg were still leaving me able to talk and walk fine.
2 months ago, after constant usage for a few months, at the peak of my tolerance, 100mg would have me absolutely floored and 2g would last a week minimum.

I believe that there is a bad batch of MXE going around from even the top vendors. It tasted of MXE and and had a few of the effects, but so much seemed to be missing and it simply wasn't trippy.

I had some MXE back in May after a rest over a month and all the MXE magic was back... I can't see where it could have disappeared.

Walking and talking on 300 mg? WOW! Things already start getting pretty weird for me at 20 mg - it become difficult to talk to sober people/non-users. Got to be a bad batch then.

 

[InterzoneAgent]

oSpherical you should really cut you usage down, those are starting to be absolutely insane dosages. This is a really compulsive to dose chemical for me too. I remember Shambles writing on this thread that he used something like 600 mg in one go, but he had a huge ketamine tolerance already. I wonder if he got any of the "deep" effects with that kind of tolerance... this thread was really entertaining to read when he was still posting. He seems to have disappeared althogether, hope he is still ok considering all the sad news lately at bluelight....

I believe that there is a bad batch of MXE going around from even the top vendors. It tasted of MXE and and had a few of the effects, but so much seemed to be missing and it simply wasn't trippy.

I think one way of making sure it's mxe is to test it sublingually. It should numb your mouth very noticably. This was something people reported early on in this thread.

Gotta be careful with these fake/bad batch rumours but that's excatly what i was thinking when i got my second mxe batch on last march. That was coincidentally the point when the really juicy effects disappeared. I mean i got the best trip ever scraping the remains of the first bag (~58 mg's). At the time i usually did 80-100 mg's at a time to hole really good. Then after few days break i got my second bag from same place and it did absolutely nothing compared to the first. I would use something 140-160 mg's althogether on the day i got it hoping to hole. I just had weird trippy and stimulating effects and blacked out (as happened easily also if i used too much mxe of the first bag). Same happened on few following days. Thinking it was shit i tried another vendor and their mxe would be maybe little better but it didn't give me the effects the first bag did. This weird coincidence between the new bag and effects disappearing has been really plaguing me....

Anyway few days ago i said i would try 140-160 mg's by plugging part and sublingualing part of it. It did actually work. I got the flying feeling with deep though patterns connecting all kinds of things together and extremely good euphoria. Not as deep as the typical mxe experiences but it was similar to the aforementioned very euphoric 58 mg trip. I'm starting to think it has also more to do with set and setting than we think.

 

[Spacemonkey5000]

I too got a few grams of a new vendor that didnt do the trick...

My first try it worked good when i dosed a little with some caapi tea...

But every time i 've tried to hole it hasnt worked for me, can´t be sure about dosage since i eyeball but less has gotten me further before.

It´s weird cause in low doses it worls fine but i have a really hard time getting to the level before holing =(


ps: my tolerance shoulndt be too bad, ive done about 2grams in 6months of mxe and no ket tolerance.

 

[twelvesevndi]

i just wanted to pop in and say that many people may find that this 1 is more enjoyable if you don't seek to hole off it.
shooting for a minimum effective dose can do a lot. i've gone through a few grams and 20 mg still does me right.

 

[DwayneHoover]

^ yea I think that is a spot on observation. Problem is the K-obsessed people with HUGE tolerances who think "Oh boy an easy to find not yet controlled lower dose K alternative for when I blow an entire 5g stash of K in one night like an idiot" who proceed to suck up their noses 500mg doses of what is supposed to be a 20mg drug. Fools IMO. I have a friend who went nuts with K, then when I got a couple grams of MXE begged most of my slowly used stash of K and did it FIRST because he could not stand waiting the longer comeup time of the MXE, then ended up wanting to buy 600-800mg of MXE for 1 night's partying. I went along few times because of his pathetic begging, but I finally just said, "Get it yourself... you are NOT using up in one night what ought to be ***40*** separate doses! You're not gonna WASTE my stash like that, so NO!"

It's just a really obsessive asinine idiotic pattern. I don't know what makes these K-heads so damn desperate, but its irresponsible, dangerous, and WILL eventually result in deaths that will get MXE banned, purely a result of this pathetic buzz-greed.

Sorry if some are offended, but doing hundreds of mg of MXE in a day is just totally batshit stupid and pointless and you know it. Please stop it, you are going to ruin it for the rest of us. Somebody had to say it.

 

[FPU4eva]

had my first time with mxe(on about 70mg) its amazing i cant beleieve this shit is legal, compared to ket i like this alot more

 

[missimoo]

i know there has been a lot of talk about the higher dosing of MXE and tolerance and stuff.

i got a sample of a new batch and recently i admit i have been doing stupid doses and getting nothing, or passing out. my partner has found me out cold a couple of times, the MXE has just stopped working. or it just knocks me out.

i got a sample of a new synth today to try, and i did a 100mg line expecting nothing. and it blew me away, very trippy, still is, not floating away. it has all the magic that had gone.

so. both be careful with with dosing, but also with this new batch working again, it shows there has been obviously a quality issue with batches i guess as well as the tolerance (....the new one BTW is very crystally almost. i didnt do the taste test unfortunatly


#edit to add: the sample came with a order on the tongue taste test did not have a numbing effect. it had the right taste but not the numbing effect.i cant remember a numbing effect from it ever though

 

[InterzoneAgent]

#edit to add: the sample came with a order on the tongue taste test did not have a numbing effect. it had the right taste but not the numbing effect.i cant remember a numbing effect from it ever though

I have always had a very clear numbing effect when used sublingually. Can't say for sure but i think the first batch caused this most, on the other hand tho i didn't use much of my other batches sublingually (only tested occasionally). And my first batch (at least ) was definitely mxe effects wise. Haha, seems this thread is becoming a collection of ramblings from crazy mxe-heads doing unhumane amounts of the shit and making up different explanations for lost effects which they long for so hard. You're never gonna catch the dragon you know... The numbing effect or much anything other about mxe hasn't really been proven scientifically, it's all just sweet frustrating speculation...

i just wanted to pop in and say that many people may find that this 1 is more enjoyable if you don't seek to hole off it.
shooting for a minimum effective dose can do a lot. i've gone through a few grams and 20 mg still does me right.

Yes, that's a good point which applies to every other substance too. If you are waiting for the effects too anxiously you're likely to miss them.

 

[bbx4]

Going to another festival soon and I'll probably be using a lot of MXE, but I'm going to avoid combos and weed especially...

How do you take your MXE at a festival? Plugging is, IMO, absolutely the best way to do MXE but I don't think it's that practical at a festival. Orally works good on an empty stomach but if you just ate it's a complete waste. Never done it insufflated though.

 

[polidelaiko]

If you are waiting for the effects too anxiously you're likely to miss them.

You can´t miss MXE´s effects.

 

[cocoabud]

i was under the impression that initially there was only one lab producing and a handful of *authorized* vendors in the uk. if that was the case then it now seems that has changed somewhat. a lot of new vendors, 'crystal' batches, powder batches. maybe multiple labs. i think the can of worms has been opened with methoxetamine.

 

[morbiddoctor]

I'm having trouble finding the perfect spot with this chemical. It seems like I keep overshooting it. Maybe I'm not. I've started out with SL dose of 15-20mg, let it soak for 15-30 and swallow. Usually effects are gradual and I've ended up redosing in the hour after the initial dose, usually by insuffilation of around 15mg. When effects actually peak its more of a light headed antihistamine sort of buzz or disassociation. Can be uncomfortable. It sort of feels like I'm overshooting it but then it settles into something more manageable and pleasurable after a time. It reminds me a lot of when I've taken upwards of a gram of DXM.

My thought is that I should obviously avoid the compulsion to redose, and that perhaps the sublingual dose is kicking in right about the time the insuffilated dose kicks in, causing an overshot. Also I get wicked hangovers from this one. Is this normal with this drug? Any thoughts?

 

[mcwally]

never got hangovers from it perhaps its the longer acting opiate affect people report though

initially it might be tricky getting a sweet spot i'd suggest just unsufflating a dose and small bumps after 10min if you want to up it. Different routes are going to be harder to manage