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Codeine question

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englishcricket76

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Recieved Codeine phosphate 60mg Teva (no paracetamol so no need for cwe), packaging looks great and uk address. Took x2 (120mg) and felt absolutely nothing and gave it 2 hours. Previously some months ago took about 32mg of codeine (different make) and felt very high.

My usual drug useage (I dont take this with Codeine) is 4 valium, 2 swallowed and two under the tougue plus a double vodka and 1 ambien to send me off on my way. I do this about twice a week and found no need to increace the dosage.
Should I increase codeine dosage or do you suspect that it is fake bearing in mind 32mg of codeine blow me away?
 
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Teva does indeed manufacture a 60mg codeine tab (aka: Tylenol 4 generic), but it should also contain 300mg of acetaminophen. I'm not aware of a tab made by Teva that contains 60mg codeine alone...

So, if you felt nothing off of it, and you're used to taking approx. a quarter of that amount and feeling it (esp. since I'm pretty sure that there is no such beast made by Teva...I could be wrong though), it is most likely fake.
 
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You would absolutely feel 120 mg of codeine with your tolerance, even guys who have higher tolerance feel at least
something so they are more than likely fake or severely underdosed...
 
Did you order those online? If so you can expect to receive fakes, regardless of how nice the packaging looks. Remember, scammers make their money by fooling people so you can expect everything to look legit, it just doesn't mean that it always is.
 
ha yeah those online pharmacies are BS. I made that mistake myself with Valium. Spent like no pricing on 90 pills and they were fake. Bummer dude sorry that happened to you too.
 
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120mgs isnt that much if you have some sort of a tolerance. If your tolerance is really low, you will definitely enjoy 120mgs. If you have some sort of tolerance, you will need 240mgs.

240mgs even now gets me where I wanna be.
 
correct me if imwrong but u cant really od on codeine even if u have no tolerance unless u take an insane arge dose higher than the ceiling dose. like a gram or something. u wont die. the worst thing that will happen is u will throw up & feel really dizzy & have to lay down.

same with valium. if uve never taken one before & u take 100mg of so u wont die u'll just pass out or do some stupid shit u wont remember. some drugs arnt possible to od & die from in in there usual dose range.
 
You can die on both valium and codiene.
You can "overdose" on anything. I mean even water will kill ya if you drink enough for real. There are many people who are allergic to codeine too and will go into anaphylactic shock. And many, many people have died eating valium. Its a CNS depressant, if you take enough you WILL stop breathing...and then die.
 
I think Anon was referring to the 'ceiling effect' that happens with codeine, and to answer the question, yes. You could OD if you didn't have the tolerance.````````vvvvbbbbbbewwwwwwww <---- my cat wanted to say something too, he walked across the keyboard lol.
 
Is there any kind of extended release mechanism on these?
Had you taken anything else with the previous 32mg? That seems quite a low dose to 'blow you away' even with no tolerance (only in my experience though). Before I had any kind of tolerance I had to go above 200mg to even notice it.
Empty stomach?
Other drugs, including non-psychoactive ones can also affect the metabolism.

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Can you explain the ceiling effect to me? I have not heard about this i dont think.
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One train of thought is that some of codeine's effect is due to it being metabolised to morphine by CYP2D6. The liver can only do so much in one go as it only produces a fixed amount of this enzyme within a certain time period. Basically, if you take more than can be converted, you have hit the ceiling. A figure often quoted is about 400mg but obviously it will vary between individual body chemistry.

Some people claim not to experience this effect and some papers on codeine's analgesic properties suggest it is codeine-6-glucuronide (another metabolite) rather than the morphine responsible for the effects. I keep meaning to get round to trying some codeine while inhibiting the production of CYP2D6 to see if it still works, just so I have my own experience to be able to comment!
 
Even if your preparation is real, it would take much more than 60mg codeine to get you high. I remember the very first times I ever took any opiate - I needed about 180mg minimum to catch a buzz. 60mg is the sort of dose that would only do something if it was taken by an addict in withdrawal, and even then it would be more about minimising bad things than providing any actual or positive pleasure.
 
substance ID threads are not allowed, and that includes "are my pharms fake?" threads. the vast majority of non-tolerant users would feel at least something from 120mg. that's really all we can tell you, englishcricket.


and a reminder to others, no pricing in BDD.
 
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