First time meditation question.

[freehugs]

So this morning I decided to give meditation a go. I wanted to do it after vaporizing some weed, so I looked up info on that, and went for it. About 10 minutes in, I think, my vision and it felt like my head started to wobble slowly and then it increased in speed a bit. It didn't hurt or anything, and was actually pretty euphoric. I also felt as though I was spinning sometimes, and was getting pulled to different sides.

Now my question is, do you think that these were caused by the cannabis, or do people experience things like these while meditating sober?

 

[Changed]

Meditation and drugs don't go together; what you did wasn't meditation.

 

[High Yogi]

Meditation and cannabis do in fact, go together. In india cannabis was been called the gift of the gods, and was used to expand the lungs in pranayam, as well as being used to realize the perfected state, a non dualistic state of being that cannabis gives. It allows one to feel uptight, and yet at ease. alert, but relaxed. Dualities are broken and dissolved through this medicinal plant.

Look at the shamans, they used drugs for thousands of years to attain enlightenment and astral travel as well as other strange phenomena.

And to say cannabis is bad in anyway is to go against god and say he is bad.

In the bhagavad-gita, Krishna himself says: "But it is I who am the ritual, I the sacrifice, the offering to the ancestors, THE HEALING HERB, the transcendental chant; I am the butter and the fire and the offering.

the perfection of meditation is found in the realization of gods unlimited mystic opulence, omnipresence and omnipotence, to understand god in his purest form and as manifest in all things.

 

[Dedbeet]

So this morning I decided to give meditation a go. I wanted to do it after vaporizing some weed, so I looked up info on that, and went for it. About 10 minutes in, I think, my vision and it felt like my head started to wobble slowly and then it increased in speed a bit. It didn't hurt or anything, and was actually pretty euphoric. I also felt as though I was spinning sometimes, and was getting pulled to different sides.

Now my question is, do you think that these were caused by the cannabis, or do people experience things like these while meditating sober?

It could have been a combination of the cannabis, and trying to focus.

IMO, meditation is best as the most boring activity imaginable. Sit still when you want to move, do something, go somewhere, but don't force yourself -- try to relax completely into the boredom and emptiness, and feel the sense of warmth and intimacy at the center of it, the total absence of need and the fulfillment and contentment that is one's natural state.

"Just be", and be utterly contented with simply being. To me, that is meditation.

Peace...

 

[CoffeeDrinker]

^This.

Meditation and drugs don't go together; what you did wasn't meditation.

You speak in these less-than-perfectly-well thought out absolutes somewhat often when it comes to talking about buddhism, or meditation, or lifestyles, or whatever. I hope you meet a fine spiritual instructor, but I also hope you take everything he says with a grain of salt, and be willing to move on and forget about what you read or heard just as quickly. He's just another man, if you do meet him. You can't be taught, you can only be shown things, and subsequently teach yourself, or just teach yourself, and it's so easy for things to get lost in translation, even for an enlightened person talking to you because they are forced to speak dualistically when describing such a simple, yet elusive, thing.
There should be a "Communication for the Enlightened" class at community colleges, where the professor talks about good ways to talk about good ways.

I agree that meditation isn't about any sort of euphoria though, but that doesn't mean that you can't be euphoric while you meditate.

There is no dogma when it comes to isness. It's just isness

 

[Treefa]

Lol yea bro all you did was get high and nod out for a minute lol. You havent been TRULY high untill you smoke then just chill with your eyes closed. Kinda feels like your flying eh? add that feeling to all the random shit i see in my head and its Almost mildly psychadelic ha.
Weed does somewhat make me 'meditate' if you will, i think about things and my life and often find solutions.
Never really tried medatation sober, it sounded so gay lol

 

[Blennz]

'first time meditation' in the title of the post,
given that i agree wholeheartedly with changed's statement.
It is imposing against the fundamentality of meditation and its purpose. Sure you could dismiss that statement and say its a tool for whatever you would like to achieve but in my opinion if you want to experience something take some DMT or something.
If you want to meditate i suggest being sober as it will allow greater introspection and will coincide with meditations roots more, being the art of ignoring distractions which weed is in itself along with the visualisations meditation can project.
Distractions that should be acknowledged but not held onto to allow you to go deeper and deeper where the depth of servitude is lessened and connection to your higher self is strengthened. You won't be able to recognise these things if you haven't meditated sober freehugs so if you want to get to the level where profound experiences occur you will have to seek the opposite and allow it to come to you from empty thoughts and letting the minor visualisations flow by and not holding any sense of attachment or awe.