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Has anyone ever done Desomorphine?

no ,the homebaked well for lack of better word SHIT they are injecting is whats fucking them up not the desomorphine ,they are injecting IMPURE SUBSTANCES ,SUCH AS IODINE phosphorus

THATS whats messing tthem up
 
Charleston_Car said:
I'm not an opiate user myself, but after reading this...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/krokodil-the-drug-that-eats-junkies-2300787.html

Not something I would ever try, looks horrible.

It eats your flesh, for fuck's sake...

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Desomorphine itself is not a problem. Its when it is made improperly.
 
^ Exactly right.

It's not the desomorphine itself that is the problem. This drug was first made in USA and was actually marketted in a european country i forget which one. It's not like there is crazy opioids out there that eat your flesh lol.

Desomorphine (Dihydrodesoxymorphine, Permonid, also known as Krokodil) is an opiate analogue invented in 1932 in the United States, that is a derivative of morphine, where the 6-hydroxy group has been removed and the 7,8 double bond has been saturated.[1] It has sedative and analgesic effects, and is around 8-10 times more potent than morphine.[2][3][4][5] It was used in Switzerland under the brand name Permonid, and was described as having a fast onset and a short duration of action, with relatively little nausea or respiratory depression compared to equivalent doses of morphine.
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I've seen the most fucked up shit from this as we all have, have you guys seen that girl that has like most of her forearm bone exposed? The phospherous is what is eating the flesh and god knows what else. They are using industrial grade chems and you could imagine how dodgey they do things.

I'm guessing if your doing krokodil from codeine pills then you're not really worried about how clean your syringes and shit are. Theres many many reasons why these people are so fucked up.

You could imagine they just draw it straight out of whatever they cook it in no filtering or anything. They say if you miss the vein with krokodil it's a guranteed abcess.

So yeah it's not the drug itself that is harmful.
 
8L4YN3 said:
^ Exactly right.

It's not the desomorphine itself that is the problem. This drug was first made in USA and was actually marketted in a european country i forget which one. It's not like there is crazy opioids out there that eat your flesh lol.



I've seen the most fucked up shit from this as we all have, have you guys seen that girl that has like most of her forearm bone exposed? The phospherous is what is eating the flesh and god knows what else. They are using industrial grade chems and you could imagine how dodgey they do things.

I'm guessing if your doing krokodil from codeine pills then you're not really worried about how clean your syringes and shit are. Theres many many reasons why these people are so fucked up.

You could imagine they just draw it straight out of whatever they cook it in no filtering or anything. They say if you miss the vein with krokodil it's a guranteed abcess.

So yeah it's not the drug itself that is harmful.
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Switzerland is where it was prescribed.
 
These are my subjective feelings after taking lab grade >99% clean desomorphine HCl.

It hits very fast, there's no such thing like that "slow" onset of morphine when you feel how it brings up the high to both your body and your mind ("pins and needles" feeling is something I love about morphine so if someone took morphine and e.g. heroin, then he/she knows why I prefer morphine to heroin). But it doesn't cause something I call "hammer strike" after i.v.'ing heroin (nothing, nothing, nothing, bang!). It has a great rush and it' very euphoric. But it lacks another morphine's characteristic - it doesn't add that much positive sedation. It's kind of speedy. If somebody has ever taken oxymorphone i.v., this can be compared to some degree. Also, desomorphine high lasts quite short. While morphine or heroin could satisfy me then for 6 hours, desomorphine would wear off after 4-4.5 hrs. On a weight basis I can say it was 8-9 times as potent as morphine. IIRC I used to take 100-120mg of morphine sulfate pentahydrate back then and I took from 10 to 15mg of desomorphine HCl; 15mg felt similarly strong to 120mg of morphine but let's keep in mind morphine in ampules (and that's what I was mainly addicted to) is morphine sulfate pentahydrate (there is ~75,2mg of freebase in 100mg; with desomorphine there's about ~88,2mg of freebase). As for me desomorphine kind of lacks "soul". The same thing happens with semi-synthetics with MOR/KOR and MOR/DOR ratios higher than morphine's (a good example is N-phenylethylnormorphine; just like I wrote in "Krokodil Chemistry" thread in ADD).
 
Ignant said:
Desomorphine itself is not a problem. Its when it is made improperly.
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This needs to be stressed. Don't blame the drug, blame the people who aren't using HR procedures when they IV it, and/or the people who are attempting to IV something that's still loaded with by-products from the synth.
 
adder said:
These are my subjective feelings after taking lab grade >99% clean desomorphine HCl.

It hits very fast, there's no such thing like that "slow" onset of morphine when you feel how it brings up the high to both your body and your mind ("pins and needles" feeling is something I love about morphine so if someone took morphine and e.g. heroin, then he/she knows why I prefer morphine to heroin). But it doesn't cause something I call "hammer strike" after i.v.'ing heroin (nothing, nothing, nothing, bang!). It has a great rush and it' very euphoric. But it lacks another morphine's characteristic - it doesn't add that much positive sedation. It's kind of speedy. If somebody has ever taken oxymorphone i.v., this can be compared to some degree. Also, desomorphine high lasts quite short. While morphine or heroin could satisfy me then for 6 hours, desomorphine would wear off after 4-4.5 hrs. On a weight basis I can say it was 8-9 times as potent as morphine. IIRC I used to take 100-120mg of morphine sulfate pentahydrate back then and I took from 10 to 15mg of desomorphine HCl; 15mg felt similarly strong to 120mg of morphine but let's keep in mind morphine in ampules (and that's what I was mainly addicted to) is morphine sulfate pentahydrate (there is ~75,2mg of freebase in 100mg; with desomorphine there's about ~88,2mg of freebase). As for me desomorphine kind of lacks "soul". The same thing happens with semi-synthetics with MOR/KOR and MOR/DOR ratios higher than morphine's (a good example is N-phenylethylnormorphine; just like I wrote in "Krokodil Chemistry" thread in ADD).
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Thank you for this post, I was very curious about the effects. They do sound quite decent, I can understand the Russian junkies going for it, especially as the precursors are legal and very cheap to get. Maybe I'll look into making some, removing the poisons of course.
 
NeighborhoodThreat said:
This needs to be stressed. Don't blame the drug, blame the people who aren't using HR procedures when they IV it, and/or the people who are attempting to IV something that's still loaded with by-products from the synth.
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is anyone else completely fed up with how drugs have been 'regulated' in the US (and apparenty the rest of the world, afaik (or at least as far as I've seen and heard and read about, but I was born and raised in the US, and I would not be surprised at all if people like me have been kept in the dark about what the fuvcking hell is really going on)) ??

3 decades of this shit... enough is enough. I don't want to keep this bullshit going any longer.. people are doing unspeakable things to satisfy their needs, wither they be real or imagined, for things that we produce on mass scales sooooo easily (typically, I mean sure theres greedy or bored or whatever people who might be robbing banks because they want a porshe... but the vast majority of people stealing, violent robbing, prostitutes, are just trying to get some dope.... and its all so fucking cheaply produced... and the percentage of people who 'need' this dope is most likely so small .... can't we do something about this shit?

We have come a little ways at least lately, in washington state we have legalized marijuana. its just like buying booze now (well like buying booze was, aka when it was only sold in liquor stores, now its in grocery stores... but same legal age limit)

Its bad enough that this country is in massive violation of the Geneva convention..... we are supposedly all like superherosih with or military when other countries are murdering each other, but afaik all those news stories could be just that, stories... to keep us in our places..

Well... idk what else to say exactly, except that I want to fix situations of this nature so badly .... well I think I would damn near qualify as a terrorist (due to fact that I don't know what else to do aside from something like that to get this bullshit fixed). I'm not saying I'm going to do anything like that... but more or less just saying that just about how desperate I am.
 
I guess I could be wrong... like if these drugs are actually difficult to produce, as in they take vast amounts of farmland and farmland is limited, or large ammounts of energy, or produce large amounts of unusable / in-disposable waste... but I[m guessing that this is not the case, and we are just being controlled. And even if these were true, should be let known, and possibly worked on and overcome.
 
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