Opioids New Member, Please Read, Please Help!!!

[MindOverMatterr]

Hi everyone, new to these forums as a member but been reading around here for a while. I'm Mike from New York State and I'm 22 years old. I got alot of good things going for me, just graduated college with a bachelors in Finance and got alot of people that want me to do well. Only problem in my life is my cat has a opiate problem that's getting more and more out of control, its basically getting to the point of stopping or no return.

Anyways I'm here to help my cat, hes ready to kick it opiate addiction for many reasons. He just has so many negative influences around him, some many dealer friends, so many junkie friends, he really needs some help from other people, especially ones who have been though the same things.

It all started for my cat in late 2009 as a member of the glorious fraternity, Kappa Sigma. A good amount of brothers would do a little blue pill called a roxy before a party with sorority chicks, or chick sports teams, or the bar or what have you. Of course they already abused coke, MDMA, benzos and basically whatever on a strictly weekend worrier code so he figured 'hey why not, whats the worst that could happen?' not knowing what he was getting into.

Well moderation worked for about a semester doing 30-60mg tops a weekend and staying focused on school on extracurricular activities such as pick up basketball and weightlifting on the weekdays. But then the down word spiral started, doing them before class, doing them before the library, doing them to get outta bed it got worse and worse. They were always around and he had some of the best connects and TONSS of customers to sell to so it was never really an issue.

Fast-forward to 5/19/11-- As we walk across the stage to get our diplomas, my cat is on 160mg of Oxycontin, its only about 12pm around 4pm he will need around 80mg or theirs no way hes gonna make it to dinner with his parents without seriously WDing. Around 12am he will prob take another 60mg to get to sleep. I'd like to say I dont know how this happened, but I do and my cat has no one to blame but himself. Oh lets not forget opanas here and there and sometimes smack right off the street. Not the type of life anyone should want to live....

Now its 7/8/11 and hes slowly and painfully dug out of this hole. He has missed out on job opportunities from good companies with good starting salary because he cant go take a drug test. Currently hes down to about 40-60mg a day and continues to try to slowly taper. Hes tried totally kicking it before but can't do it just quite yet.

Can anyone realate to my cats story? can anyone please help? I need some postive motivation or help of any sort. Mr. Whiskers almost ready to kick the habit completely but just not quite yet. Thanks for reading, God bless

 

[sekio]

Your cat isn't an opiate addict (we know it's you), how about you read the rules. FWIW if a cat had even a small maount of oxycodone you would have a dead animal on your hands.

It's up to you to make the decision to quit. From what I have seen anyone who is "ready to quit but not quite... just let me taper a little more..." is using it as an excuse to avoid the pain and suffering of WD (which is pretty much unavoidable) and chase a high. Even "recovered" opiate addicts often keep thinking about doing opiates.

You have to seperate yourself from your addiction, get a friend or family member to watch over you while you W/D (60mg a day is a lot but it's not insurmountable) and move far away from anyone who uses or supplies opiates. Get them entirely out of your life and find a constructive sport, hobby, or activity to keep you entertained and occupied.

Whatever you do, please realize that the longer you use opiates and let them have power over you, the harder it will be when you discontinue the drug use. Opiates definitely do have a physical component to addiction, but the largest part of quitting is psychological.

 

[MindOverMatterr]

Your cat isn't an opiate addict (we know it's you), how about you read the rules. FWIW if a cat had even a small maount of oxycodone you would have a dead animal on your hands.

It's up to you to make the decision to quit. From what I have seen anyone who is "ready to quit but not quite... just let me taper a little more..." is using it as an excuse to avoid the pain and suffering of WD (which is pretty much unavoidable) and chase a high. Even "recovered" opiate addicts often keep thinking about doing opiates.

You have to seperate yourself from your addiction, get a friend or family member to watch over you while you W/D (60mg a day is a lot but it's not insurmountable) and move far away from anyone who uses or supplies opiates. Get them entirely out of your life and find a constructive sport, hobby, or activity to keep you entertained and occupied.

Whatever you do, please realize that the longer you use opiates and let them have power over you, the harder it will be when you discontinue the drug use. Opiates definitely do have a physical component to addiction, but the largest part of quitting is psychological.

I appreciate the tough love and advice, its really not that I wanna chase a high anymore I haven't wanted to do that in a while, but you are right about trying to avoid the pain of W/D. It really is more psychological then physical too your 100% right on that as well and luckily I think I have a pretty strong mind, I just think I need a little outside support sometimes.

sorry about the rules I thought swim and cats were always necessary to show no self incrimination. I read the FAQ but didn't see the clear answer

 

[ss2brandon]

swimming cats on oxycodone. whats the world coming too.

 

[morphonorconic]

Many of us can relate, as many of us are or have been high-functioning poly-drug addicts. You get in over your head without realizing it, and before you know it your inner self has lost its way, but meanwhile you continue to keep up appearances and get your shit done. To the outside observer all appears to be well, but on the inside you feel your life falling apart at the seams. The stress of maintaining both worlds as it were, becomes unbearable.

I'm not exactly clear on your question; it seems like you've got a good idea of what you want to do, which is get away from your habit. It won't be easy, but it will be worth it. Keep tapering down until you are at a point where you feel you can stop, and then stop. I know it's easier said than done, and it probably seems impossible, but it's not. It can be done, and you can do it.

Also, I believe there is a tapering megathread, which might offer some insight regarding different approaches or methods, which you might use to help ensure success [tapering].

 

[Pegasus]

Why not get on bupe? IMO it's easier to taper than an opiate like oxycodone. It's also not as bad on things like androgen suppression which was a big motivator for me quitting. You say you're almost ready to quit... well, this puts you in a better position when you are ready to quit IMO.

 

[eternalDamnation]

i can relate. i have had an oxy love affair for several yrs. i intend to quit and have in fact cut my daily dose by half. that is too much though and i have suffered w/d. but it does get easier just hang in there and taper slowly . good luck to ya.

 

[MindOverMatterr]

Many of us can relate, as many of us are or have been high-functioning poly-drug addicts. You get in over your head without realizing it, and before you know it your inner self has lost its way, but meanwhile you continue to keep up appearances and get your shit done. To the outside observer all appears to be well, but on the inside you feel your life falling apart at the seams. The stress of maintaining both worlds as it were, becomes unbearable.

I'm not exactly clear on your question; it seems like you've got a good idea of what you want to do, which is get away from your habit. It won't be easy, but it will be worth it. Keep tapering down until you are at a point where you feel you can stop, and then stop. I know it's easier said than done, and it probably seems impossible, but it's not. It can be done, and you can do it.

Also, I believe there is a tapering megathread, which might offer some insight regarding different approaches or methods, which you might use to help ensure success [tapering].

wow, you basically hit the nail on the head sir/mam. I have a 3.4 undergradute gpa and am currently studying for GMATS and want to pursue a MBA. On the outside I look fine, in still in shape, athletic and very active. I feel like it would blow some peoples mind if they knew what I did behind closed doors.

Its crazy the most functional and 'normal' people can hide the biggest secrets and have the worst habits. btw I truly appreciate your positive words, thanks for giving a noob to the thread some faith instead and positive feedback. Looking into the tapering megathread now. Thanks again, wish I had some rep to give

 

[MindOverMatterr]

Why not get on bupe? IMO it's easier to taper than an opiate like oxycodone. It's also not as bad on things like androgen suppression which was a big motivator for me quitting. You say you're almost ready to quit... well, this puts you in a better position when you are ready to quit IMO.

I strongly considered that multiple times, I am also a ex-athlete, all-division high school football and basketball. I still play pickup basketball alot and have a love for weight lifting. Every time i blow down some opiates I kick myself in the face lately, I know i'm messing up my natural T production and hormone panels and a long term habit leads to a permanent low T problem, my worst nightmare. Another hugee reason I am ready to stop this shit and get out of this trap.

Is it true a partial antagonist such as bupe does not effect T levels like full antagonists do?

Thanks for reading and responding.

 

[MindOverMatterr]

i can relate. i have had an oxy love affair for several yrs. i intend to quit and have in fact cut my daily dose by half. that is too much though and i have suffered w/d. but it does get easier just hang in there and taper slowly . i am a ccw permit holder and in my state if you have been to rehab or have ever been addicted to a "controlled substance" you cannot hold a ccw permit. that has always kept me from trying to seek help. so i am left to my own devices.
good luck to ya.

Thanks and yes were in the same boat, if I go to rehab or detox it means my parents figure out my whole family knows and just word spreads fast and people love to talk. My mother is a prominent figure in our school district and a town official and i would never dream of bringing that negative attention towards our family. Good luck to you too I have a gut feeling your a strong individual as well. I would love to help support each other.

PS-- I have a shotgun too and I love shooting my clays, I would not wanna hand that in either

 

[lethe_drowned]

go to the doctor an get a maintenance!

 

[Pegasus]

I strongly considered that multiple times, I am also a ex-athlete, all-division high school football and basketball. I still play pickup basketball alot and have a love for weight lifting. Every time i blow down some opiates I kick myself in the face lately, I know i'm messing up my natural T production and hormone panels and a long term habit leads to a permanent low T problem, my worst nightmare. Another hugee reason I am ready to stop this shit and get out of this trap.

Is it true a partial antagonist such as bupe does not effect T levels like full antagonists do?

Thanks for reading and responding.

Yep, bupe studies show no androgen suppression. There seems to be a bit of an effect on sex drive still but not from testosterone suppression.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

Please note that "SWIM" And "my cat" are you, and it is against the rules to say those words instead of actually refering to your self.

You can use the edit button on your original post to correct it. Finally, please read the rules and guidelines about Other Drugs.

 

[canarylove]

swimming cats on oxycodone. whats the world coming too.

LOL how come people dont read the rules on posting???

 

[drewbocop]

It's apparent you aren't ready to quit. Get on Bupe, take that job, move away, pass that drug test, and don't worry about quitting for good until you are absolutely ready or all attempts will be a waste of time. Trust us.