I wrote a bit of a lengthy bit down below so I can get to the topic on hand first, and then side story later. I'm basically looking to emulate the MDA ride, I'm not expecting anything to come close to being exact, even MDMA feels different, but I think I'm gonna get my hands on the APB's.
Initially I was only going to get 6-apb because it had the trippy aspect to it, but then 5-apb came about and I hear that it actually starts off more intense initially and feels almost the same as 6-apb, but without the trippyness; almost sounds like MDMA and MDA switched the body high aspect with each other. So I hear a mixture of about 40:60 ratio of 5:6-apb to be absolutely the shit.
And if I get around to this, the only thing I'm a bit clueless on now is the dosage. My usual MDxx dosage I wrote down below, so I'm thinking of doing something like 120mg 6-apb and 80mg 5-apb bomb, and I'm told not to redose, because this lasts longer than MDA even. I'm really curious as to how similar the body high and emotions this will bring about and exactly what type of psychedelic effects I will be expecting. I doubt it'l be anticholorgenic character that MDA has, but something more along the lines of low dose of 2C's. Anyways, what do you guys thing?
Story time
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So i came back to this thread because I'm thinking that it is my obligation to get 5/6-apb since recently got my hands on shard quality MDMA, and I'm rather surprised from how I view it and MDA. I always had an interest in MDA initially because of the psychedelic features it promised, but now that I'm just shy a year from being introduced into the lovely world of empathogens, I think I can pick out when I had the MDA or not, or I can be completely wrong but I'm fairly confident.
Now, whenever I do this, I usually bomb 200mg, then about an hour in, usually 1.5hrs, I boost with 100-120mg. My girl too.
The first time felt almost identical to the intensity I had rolling this previous weekend. It is a great loved up feeling but I only get energetic the first 4 or so hours and then I'm just tired, still rolling a bit but not too much energy. It hits gently, gets you where you want to, and then gentle ride down. I wasn't unimpresssed, but I wasn't overwhelmed. I liked it, but for some reason I was expecting more. Some visuals noted, but nothing major, weed enhanced it, especially when going to sleep. There could of been some MDA in it, because my girl said she noticed some mind movies when trying to fall asleep, but if it did, the mixture was heavily on the MDMA:MDA ratio.
My second time about two months later, weighed out the same dosage, but holy fuck did I start to feel it within maybe 25 minutes of me dropping. It was the same sort of feeling, but much more pronounced, more intense, more satisfying. I really fucking liked this. It came on faster, stronger, and the sex this time was really quite something. We could go at it, or rather it was more dependent on me hehe, much more and got more 'creative' and kinky. Visuals sort of got pronounced after the peak was established, weed extended the tail end of the peak a bit, but this stuff definetly lasted longer, not too much longer, but definitely a full 5 or 6 hours before it was residual stimulation and time for bed. Had a little more energy, still on the sedating side, but I had more in me. This had to of had more MDA in it.
Third time was about three months later, first time I got a white, clumpy, mixture. Looked like the first two batches, didn't smell that strongly of licorice however and was also the first time we went out on the stuff to a small little party. Intensity was more similar to the first roll and same sort of time frame, and the first time I started to nasally administer the booster. This I liked much better than just oral boost, since I actually felt the second dose.
Fourth time was my first and last time I'll buy pills without a test kit or sampling it beforehand. We were going to do molly, but I had just got these yellow doves, and only had about 500mg of molly so I decided I would take the dove, just one, and boost with molly, and my girl would just have the molly because, thanks to the power of the interwebs, I knew pills were notoriously adulterated. So I ended up coming up on something, probably a pipe, vaguely felts omething in my stomach, got stimulated but nothing easy to distinguish, the molly booster was what actually triggered the roll. After the molly wore off and it was time to hit the hay, I could not sleep till the next day. I just ended up rolling around the whole night, somewhere about 4 or 5 in the morning I was sick of it all so I went to the kitchen, downed two beers in a few seconds, and had a few bowls and still couldnt sleep. So yeah
Then the fifth time was off some what was sold to me as MDA, and it was exactly like the second time, same sort of body high, but more intense, pleasurable, and euphoric, and the empathogenic properties were still there. This also resulted in some of the most memorable sex sessions I've had so far. Let's just say, she discovered her lack of a gag reflex and that she was a squirter
. I got the batch in a single solid .92g rock, which was nice to see. We did our usual dosing and some stupid thought came into my head thinking it'd be okay to just finish up the rest of what was left between us. this is the only time we broke the don't redose past the booster rule, but I don't think I will again. Not because of the side effects but more so that the initial booster only does so much to begin with, and the third dose just seemed to prolong the stimulation. I learned shortly after this that serotonin is first released in the synapse, then the transporter is inhibited so I guess this means unless you get your dose all in a short span of time, you're not really going to get much out of it.
Then the last time I rolled was this weekend and the body high felt quite nice again, but not as intense to the last time, but more so the first and third time. Also the gag reflex was a little present, reduced, but wasn't missing this time. And we were both just kinda exhuasted by the four our mark. Sure I, being the male, always want to fuck, but even I just wanted to lay around in bed. This was probably the only time the visuals were almost absent, somewhat noticable, but greatly reduced.
The only thing that this last particular time I rolled I sort of regret is a about a month prior I had done methylone, stupidly this was the second time in a span of three days but the second time didn't seem to have dimished effects. I will say though that although methylone does have like 70% of that coming up rolling feeling of molly, after peaking and around the three hour mark, the roll is over and it's just pure dopamine release, and not too fun either, like by that point I wish I didn't take anything. I highly suspect though that this was because I boosted it, so maybe just asingle dose would of done fine. Anyways, the reason I mention the methylone was because I was afraid that there might of been some reduced effect in my last roll from the methylone use, and it sorta gave me a depressed little thought that I might already be losing the magic. I highly doubt it now, since I pre/post load everytime, I've done this a handful of times, and I've decided to space out the time between rolls even more so, to keep that same feeling there. By the way, to any of you who have been doing this for years, but responsibly, like spaced out, nothing too crazy, maybe a slight deviation or binge, but are all the effects you know and love still there or is it becoming more dull?
