13.5 mg 2c-e (first time)- Fighting through Hell to make it to Heaven

[frontbluntt]

Male
150 lbs
6'1"
19 Years

I have experience tripping on mushrooms, one acid trip, salvia, and a couple of 2c-i trips.

So I had some 2c-e sitting in my room for a while waiting for some people to do it with, and after people kept backing out, I decided to do it on my own.

I woke up at 9:30am and ate a very small breakfast, not filling at all. I carefully weighed out some 2-ce on a not very accurate mg scale and I got somewhere between 13 and 14, so I'm going to call it 13.5 mg. I was very concerened with stopping the dreaded nausea I had been reading about, so at 11:00am I took 25 mg of diphenhydramine.

11:30am- I take the capsule of 2-ce, lay in my bed and start playing Mafia II.

12:00pm- Probably placebo, but I feel heavier and colors look more saturated

12:30pm- Obviously it was just a placebo, I feel rather normal now.

1:00pm- Feel some discomfort, not nausea but a bad feeling in my stomach area.

1:30pm- Feeling very bad now, intense body discomfort. No visuals but any way I lay my stomach feels awful. Feel like I need to get something out of me so I try to throw up but nothing comes out. I didn't feel nauseous, but almost felt like I needed to burp something out.

2:00pm- Body discomfort is horrible now, wishing I never took the 2-ce. I panic and take .5mg of Clonapezam, hoping it will help somehow (I have never taken Clonapezam nor do I know what kind of dose actually has an effect). I am getting visuals now, but nothing too crazy.

2:30pm- My girlfriend drives me to some food place as she picks up some food. I can't enjoy any of the continuously more intense visuals because I feel horrible, although walking to the car was helping get my mind off it. In the car, which is stiflingly hot (I live in Texas), I feel like I cannot breathe and am anxious to get out.

3:00pm- Back at my house with no signs of feeling better, I take another Clonapezam because I don't know what else to do and am still slightly panicking.

3:30pm- I am laying on my bed and the bad feeling in my stomach has gone for unbearable to bearable. Visuals are getting crazy now, some of the best I've seen. Posters are changing in size, my walls are changing color, and the writings and shapes on packages of things are flying around wildly. My girlfriend shows me some crazy Youtube videos designed to trip you out and they are beyond amazing. Her computer screen seems huge and everything is in 3-D. At one stunning point a form was shooting beams of light and they were actually coming out of the screen to my face.

4:30pm- The bad feelings have finally subsided and my body now feels amazing. I am captivated by my carpet which is flowing like an ocean and has intricate designs of Aztec people in it. At one point it ceased to be a carpet at all and I saw full on hallucinations of people looking at me dressed in all sorts of colors and holding some signs. The carpet flowing like the ocean seemed so real I felt like I could dive in it. The reputation that 2c-e visuals have are definitely merited. I have never seen visuals so real, beautiful, and captivating.

6:45pm- Trip has been amazing for last two hours. My body feels soooooo good now. I have weird, indescribable feelings in my fingers at one point that feels like some invisible, intense force massaging them. I've never felt anything like it before but it wasn't scary at all, it felt really good. At this time my girlfriend takes me on a car ride because she has to go take a picture for her school. The car ride was incredibly awesome. She parked and went to take care of the picture and I stayed in the car and stared at the car we were parked next to, which was doing crazy things and interacting with its own rims. Very difficult to explain. We then went to some yogurt place and as I waited in the car again for her to get a frozen yogurt, some people were hanging out in front of my car and I felt very uncomfortable, not knowing how I should be acting or if they could tell something was up with me.

8:00pm- We get back to my house, and I notice the trip might be toning down.

8:30pm- I am all of a sudden no longer tripping. It ended very suddenly, but my body was still feeling really good.

That night I took one more 25mg Diphenhydramine and 9mg of Melatonin and was out immediately. I woke up with a headache, but I assume that's just from not eating anything except a small breakfast the previous day.

All in all, the visuals and body feeling I got from the second half of this trip were so amazing that I want to do it again as soon as possible. However, the first few hours of absolute hell are making me nervous.

Can anyone answer these questions:

Would 50mg of DPH instead of 25mg have helped more with how bad I felt?

Do you think the clonapezam is the only reason I felt better? Or I would I have felt better mid-trip either way?

Would snorting help reduce body load (and yes I'm aware of all it's negatives)

Also throughout the trip I was very tired but awake at the same time. I kept finding myself having my eyes closed on accident or wanting to lay down and close my eyes. It was kind of annoying. I'm assuming the Clonapezam had something to do with it, but if it was only caused by the DPH then I am not sure taking 50mg would be a smart idea.

Please try to help me because I would love to do it again but do not want to suffer through that Hell again.

Thank you!!!

 

[RobbyG]

Tried 2c-I and got that unbearable body load, took 4mg Xanax to completely kill the high. Ended up giving my gram of 2c-e away because of the ci body load experience

 

[JBrandon]

The 2C-x nausea issues are so variable in my opinion. It depends on how much you've eaten as well for me. I had no nausea on T-2, yet insane nausea on C-E, go figure.

Regarding the 2C-E nausea...
The only way I've found to avoid it completely is to plug it (take it rectally) or snort it. However I don't recommend the snorting ROA - very painful and more intense / dangerous.

50mg of Benadryl will really help mute the nausea on the come-up, but for me I still felt it to a slight degree and my stomach still "ached" when I came down later. That being said I usually have a great afterglow and just go to bed.

Best of luck!

 

[bartlebooth]

Sounds like a pretty good time, even considering the unpleasantness of the first half.

The crucible of the 2C-E body load is, for some people, a necessary trial to overcome in order to appreciate the more desirable aspects of 2C-E, often including the fantastic body high of the latter portion of the trip. Many people don't experience it this way, but plenty do.

Diphenhydramine does absolutely nothing for me. You might try 50mg next time to see if it helps, but you might find like me that diphenhydramine simply doesn't help, at least where the abdominal discomfort is concerned.

What does help me get through it is:

1. No eating for several hours before taking 2C-E. I try to refrain from eating anything for 10 hours or more, although that much time may not be necessary.

2. Ginger - pill form works best, but tea with ginger root also has some soothing properties, although hot tea may be less desirable in the heat of Texas.

3. Movement - The first part of a 2C-E trip is always spent on a long walk now. I find that if I'm up and moving - particularly outdoors in the fresh air with natural surroundings to admire - my mind is removed from most of the discomfort I experience during the come up.

4. Experience - Over time somehow the body load has become less unpleasant to me. Not sure why that is, just seems to be the case. My first time taking 2C-E was excruciating for a good couple hours, but any body load I experience now is an annoyance at most.

Lastly, I don't know what affects the clonapezam had on your experience, but it seems plausible that it was at least partly responsible for your lethargy. I wouldn't want to dull a 2C-E trip with clonapezam.

 

[frontbluntt]

Sounds like a pretty good time, even considering the unpleasantness of the first half.

The crucible of the 2C-E body load is, for some people, a necessary trial to overcome in order to appreciate the more desirable aspects of 2C-E, often including the fantastic body high of the latter portion of the trip. Many people don't experience it this way, but plenty do.

Diphenhydramine does absolutely nothing for me. You might try 50mg next time to see if it helps, but you might find like me that diphenhydramine simply doesn't help, at least where the abdominal discomfort is concerned.

What does help me get through it is:

1. No eating for several hours before taking 2C-E. I try to refrain from eating anything for 10 hours or more, although that much time may not be necessary.

2. Ginger - pill form works best, but tea with ginger root also has some soothing properties, although hot tea may be less desirable in the heat of Texas.

3. Movement - The first part of a 2C-E trip is always spent on a long walk now. I find that if I'm up and moving - particularly outdoors in the fresh air with natural surroundings to admire - my mind is removed from most of the discomfort I experience during the come up.

4. Experience - Over time somehow the body load has become less unpleasant to me. Not sure why that is, just seems to be the case. My first time taking 2C-E was excruciating for a good couple hours, but any body load I experience now is an annoyance at most.

Lastly, I don't know what affects the clonapezam had on your experience, but it seems plausible that it was at least partly responsible for your lethargy. I wouldn't want to dull a 2C-E trip with clonapezam.

Thanks for the advice
What would a normal recreational dose of clonazepam be for someone with no tolerance anyway? I don't know if it even affected me I was just freaking out so I took it

 

[allium]

What a better drug 2C-E would be without this terrible body load!

 

[frontbluntt]

Does anyone have any advice for the general dysphoria/stomach discomfort I felt (Aain, it wasn't nausea)?

Perhaps taking some advil before, or maybe some opiates? Some pepto bismol? What do you guys think?