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purple_cloud said:
I'm also confused what all your opiate lovers like about opiates in the warm weather. I hate opiates in the summer, they make me feel extra hot...in the winter though, there's nothing like that warm blanket feeling on a cold snowy night. Hmm, only good thing about the winter really. I guess they go well with spring/summer storms too, but only if sitting inside with a fan or air conditioner going.
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Opiates for me are awesome anytime of the year. I love driving on them, especially when its sunny outside. When im on them, everything seems more bright & shiny if that sounds right.

I dont like swimming on them because I gotta use up all my energy. I rather sit by the pool under an umbrella & watch the scenery (women in bikinis) is the only reason why I tolerate summer. I love fall/winter weather & the cold.....October threw Feb are my favorite months. You are right, opiates are better in the winter but it doesnt make a difference for me if its hot out or not, I like that warm loving feeling year round...........:)
 
TheLostBoys said:
I wish I could go back to those first couple days when I first did opiates(vicodin). It was like floating on the clouds with a warm blanket surrounding me (smiles)
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TLB - I'm assuming you moved on to stronger opies after Vicodin right? If so - what did you move on to, and what's the strongest opiate you've ever made a habit of taking?


I could still consider myself an opiate novice...I've dabbled moderately with hydrocodone, trams and kratom. I've tried Subs ONE time. It still doesn't take much to get me rolling pretty hard.

I LOVE that warm fuzzy opiate high. Nothin' beats it - regardless of what time of year it is.
 
Whipped Dream said:
TLB - I'm assuming you moved on to stronger opies after Vicodin right? If so - what did you move on to, and what's the strongest opiate you've ever made a habit of taking?


I could still consider myself an opiate novice...I've dabbled moderately with hydrocodone, trams and kratom. I've tried Subs ONE time. It still doesn't take much to get me rolling pretty hard.

I LOVE that warm fuzzy opiate high. Nothin' beats it - regardless of what time of year it is.
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I've got close to no opiate tolerance, although I've played with/been prescribed a couple different ones by now. I guess I should try taking some opiates on one of these nice summer days, poolside or beachside perhaps, and then give a new opinion on it.
 
Whipped Dream said:
TLB - I'm assuming you moved on to stronger opies after Vicodin right? If so - what did you move on to, and what's the strongest opiate you've ever made a habit of taking?


I could still consider myself an opiate novice...I've dabbled moderately with hydrocodone, trams and kratom. I've tried Subs ONE time. It still doesn't take much to get me rolling pretty hard.

I LOVE that warm fuzzy opiate high. Nothin' beats it - regardless of what time of year it is.
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I was prescribed 7.5/750's last June for my back pain but by September, I told him I wanted less tylenol so he moved me up to 10/325's (Norcos). Ive taken Oxycontin last August when the old formulation was still around & liked them.

The new OP's I let sit over night in carbonated seltzer water but I dont take much oxy anymore unless I wanna get something done (meaning I gotta work on something for hours on end). First couple times I did oxy, it was 5mgs & I was nodding out which scared me.

I have also tried codeine around the same time I started with my vicodins. Tried Morphine SR for the first time about a month ago & love the stuff, it was orally, I will never IV or plug anything. Also tried DHC this week which I like, its Dihydrocodeine Continus which is a time release over 12 hours but you can chew them up as well.

Ive tried 5mgs of Methadone once & realized the next day my tolerance had gone up a little which I didnt appreciate.

I have never snorted any pills & if I ever snort anything, it will be Opana & Dilaudid but I dont wanna go there for a long time because of tolerance going way up.

Never did heroin & I just cant see myself ever doing it, at least, hopefully not.


If you or anyone else is doing the lighter opiates like codeine & hydrocodone, stick with those for a while & enjoy them, dont ever rush the strong stuff.
 
nicksoutherland90 said:
i'm not sure where you get your information but that is kind of the point of methadone....no 10 mg's will not block the effects of opiates but 10 mg's is a dose given for PAIN not for treating addiction. The blocking effect does not set in until you reach 70-80 mg's and then it will only block other opiates for 24-36 hours (which is the halflife of methadone) anything lower than .
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Yeah this was my understanding too but am going to double check now - spent ages gettin my head round bupe with its agonist/antigonist and high receptor affinity, I kinda forgot to make sure I completely understood methadone too :)

Morming/evening/wherever to all of you! Carnival was ace yesterday I must say, my friend was even in the dance troupe wearing a crimson tutu, lots of sparkles and ginormous feathers :D next year that will be me, dammit!

Lovely to see some of my EADD crew there - Evad, Wibble, Brimz, CherryColouredFunk and some "normal" people too hehee.

Sadly I had to go home early as I was feeling bit rough.. too much oxycodone/cider/etizolam most likely (ATTENTION THIS NOT A SAFE MIX!) - ahem.. TBF only had 1mg etiz and a few cans of not too strong cider - but may have got a bit carried away with the oxy I must confess, tis such a treat! Shame I missed the rest of the afternoon but oh well. I did see some amazing trippy floats and lots of fancy dress and general fun-ness. Got home (with a bottle of gin) and chilled, then one friend returned with a coupla bags of h which was nice.. others returned once we'd smoked that, cider and drink was consumed, much chat, nice tunes, ordered a box of nitrous from a 24 hour place (a-mazing) and generally a nice evening was had by all. Got people alseep everywhere it seems but am going to jump in the shower I reckon and crack on with fry-ups :D

NT, had a hydroxyzine when I got back and I def felt more chill, could be into a winner here.. might have been the relief to be away from all the crowds when I was feeling rough, or coincided with the G+T, but I reckon it works. Shall try again under different coditionds!

Hope you are all well :) <3

I feel dead cheeky just posting in here and not main forum but I am pressed for time and not sure I would provide the most top-quality harm reduction advice at present with no sleep and not being entirely at my most sober, hehe..
 
nicksoutherland90 said:
i'm not sure where you get your information but that is kind of the point of methadone....no 10 mg's will not block the effects of opiates but 10 mg's is a dose given for PAIN not for treating addiction. The blocking effect does not set in until you reach 70-80 mg's and then it will only block other opiates for 24-36 hours (which is the halflife of methadone) anything lower than .
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effie said:
Yeah this was my understanding too but am going to double check now - spent ages gettin my head round bupe with its agonist/antigonist and high receptor affinity, I kinda forgot to make sure I completely understood methadone too :)
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Nick, you're actually a bit off. Methadone does not possess a blockade effect in the way that buprenorphine does. In my understanding the way that methadone can reduce the effectiveness of other full agonist opioids when used in maintenance is through high doses greatly raising an individuals tolerance and this combined with the relatively high affinity and duration makes it more difficult for users to get high but full agonists taken on top of methadone will still have a cumulative effect.

With buprenorphine you have a true blockade where the receptors are saturated and unable to be further activated unless a dose that far exceeds one's tolerance to opioids is taken on top of the buprenorphine.

As Effie mentioned, this is due to both buprenorphine's affinity as well as its activity as a mixed agonist-antagonist. It only allows the mu receptors to be activated to a set limit (which is equivalent to about 30mg of methadone) and beyond the higher doses of buprenorphine will not produce further mu agonism but they will prevent mu agonists from being effective. This is not the case for methadone, a full agonist that doesn't provide any true 'blockade' but simply makes it more difficult to get high due to raising tolerance as well as the other factors mentioned above.
 
Double poooooooost....

purple_cloud pointed out that I almost never talk about my personal use so I thought I'd indulge today (in more ways than one ;)).

After a rather stressful week and no recreational fun culminating in a long day of work yesterday and no sleep last night, I've taken some ephedrine to stay up, some kratom to get down and I'm going to go enjoy a couple (or 25) drinks and hopefully make some stupid decisions :)

I miiiight just come back and post later when I'm shitwastedfaced if you're all lucky but you all need to get this thread going first!

How's everyone doing today?
 
^ I'm so excited that we might get a glimpse of wasted Cane today!!! I'm all for stupid decisions <3

My tongue hurts, last night when I was eating the freshest and best crab cake I've ever had, I bit the tip of my tongue and it was bleeding, and it still hurts now. Woke me up in my sleep a couple times to annoy me also. I gotsa job interview tomorrow morning (yep, I'm in the US, and on July 4th...guy accidentally scheduled himself and I'm free anyway, so why not) so no fun partying for me today. However, I'll make sure to be on here later to hopefully chat with the god-like Cane when he's schwasted like any good BL overlord should be :)
 
Looking forward to seeing a wasted Cane later too :)

Good luck with the job interview tomorrow p_c :)

I haven't really posted much today because I've been pretty down as usual and didn't wanna drag everyone else down too :\ but am feeling a bit better after getting out of my room and going for a little walk around outside.:)

Only got a few cans of cider to keep me busy tonight, but just found a film I haven't watched in a long time that I'm gonna start watching. :)
 
^ Ah Mugzy, at least you aren't stuck in this "celebrate independence day!" bullshit. My dad wants to know why I'm not going out partying tonight...I reminded him of the job interview and he still doesn't know why I'm not going out partying. He's also informed me him and his gf may be going to the beach tomorrow so may need the bathroom when I need it to be getting ready for my job interview. If I show up on here bitching and complaining that I had to miss the interview, this is why. Ugh, it's unfortunate today has to be a sober day.


Living at home sucks guys...if you've gotten out, try not to end up back in...bleh.
 
purple_cloud said:
^ Ah Mugzy, at least you aren't stuck in this "celebrate independence day!" bullshit. My dad wants to know why I'm not going out partying tonight...I reminded him of the job interview and he still doesn't know why I'm not going out partying. He's also informed me him and his gf may be going to the beach tomorrow so may need the bathroom when I need it to be getting ready for my job interview. If I show up on here bitching and complaining that I had to miss the interview, this is why. Ugh, it's unfortunate today has to be a sober day.


Living at home sucks guys...if you've gotten out, try not to end up back in...bleh.
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Only thing I miss living at home is the home cooked meals.
 
^^you can cook for yourself you know ;) (i shouldn't really comment as I have slacked on the cooking front since being on my own)

Just thought I'd pop in and say hi half way through "Good Will Hunting" :)

Will be back later and at the rate I am drinking I am likely to be very drunk :\ :D
 
Mugz said:
^^you can cook for yourself you know ;) (i shouldn't really comment as I have slacked on the cooking front since being on my own)

Just thought I'd pop in and say hi half way through "Good Will Hunting" :)

Will be back later and at the rate I am drinking I am likely to be very drunk :\ :D
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LoL, I do cook but not like mom does. By the way, "Good Will Hunting" is a great movie.
 
I missed home cooking at first but you soon get used to it, and its so satisfying to eat a tasty meal you've made yourself! Not so easy cooing for one but that's where freezers come in handy. My potatoes are nearly ready, and my tomatoes have gone mental! Woop :D

Drinking Magnum Tonic Wine at the mo. One of the best drinks ever! 16.5%, fortified with iron and vitamins (perfect for veggies) and with added "vigatron 2", what more could you want from a drink??

Also a little benzo'd and tipsy. Oxy wore off a while ago but am feeling pretty good :)
 
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