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Bupe Buprenorphine as a recreational drug?

Bupe is strong, strong stuff. Problem is you can tell how strong it is most of the time. I remember seeing a chart yesterday that had buprenorphine at 400x a substance and Fentanyl @ 500x. Although, I will say itll be easy to tell if youre forced to WD off of it for 2 or 3 weeks, like I have before. If you are ever put into that situation DONT do what I did and NOT sue for malpractice.
 
I use Suboxone recreationally every now and again. Try not to make a habit of it because of its addictive qualities. I normally buy an 8mg tablet from a friend, takes me a good week to go through it. I have a zero tolerance so only need the tiniest little bit. I start with a 1mg line and normally have .5 about 6 hours later until it's gone.

I like the 'No worries' feeling it gives me. It's incredibly relaxing, I find it a good social lubricant. My favourite time to take it is when I'm working. (Retail.) Makes me far more friendly to customers and co-workers alike.
 
sporadic suboxone use = A good time... (fuckin intense drug after being off it for 2 yrs)

maintence suboxone use = bad fucking time
 
i think the recreational value is about equal to any other opiate..... for naive users....


I know a kid that preferred BUPE over any other opiate.. he was in love with it... it was funny and sad at the same time... He would take 4mg and get in blissfull heaven,,, i would always tell him not to take more than 1 or 2 mgs

Lol I know someone like that too. They liked it more than heroin and were willing to steal for it.

That was mind-blowing to say the least.
 
sporadic suboxone use = A good time... (fuckin intense drug after being off it for 2 yrs)

maintence suboxone use = bad fucking time

I agree to this on a certain viewpoint... for sure...

But for those who need maintenance suboxone use = normal life = amazing fucking time...

Sub maintenance is so much difference then active addiction IMO!..
 
Urgh I tried this at a recommendation from a friend the other day, no tolerence to opiates he said neck a whole 8mg tablet to get a decent high. I tried 3/4 of it, so 6mg. Within an hour I knew it was too strong a dose and had the urge to throw up, everything was spinning and I felt like I was going to black out almost. Felt awful! Complained a lot and still felt like crap the next day, and had to work. Was a little confused and stumbled around working behind the bar in the pub, wasn't good.

Never again for this stuff! Even if a lower dose may be more recreational, I should've known it wasn't going to be for me. Codiene made me throw up before, guess opiates and me don't mix. Give me psychedelics etc anytime.
 
i gave my friend (w/ no opioid tolerance) 4mg of suboxone once to ward off his back pains. i didn't think anything less than 4mg would really do much pain relief seeing as it's only partially an agonist. anyways, he took that 4mg and spent the next 10 hrs puking, but his back pain was gone... haha
 
When I was in jail just recently (nov 2010 - may 2011), subs would ALLEGEDLY sell like hotcakes if someone was hypothetically Getting them in. Since the opiate users in there have usually been clean of their DOC for a while, they'd actually get pretty good off them. I would say it was by far the most popular drug in there.
 
insuffilated is definitely the way to go if your trying to get the euphoria from it. Onset is still pretty slow but the bioavailability is almost twice as high as sublingual. Its a great way to make what you have last you. It also just plain feels better insuffilated. This is of course subjective, your mileage may vary.

No, it isnt going to be as good as a full agonist such as oxy or even vicodin, not even close. But I wouldnt go as far as to say that its not euphoric or fun, because it certainly is. The euphoria is only there in small amounts, but the buzz itself you get is a good one. It just wont give you the pure unadulterated bliss that a real opiate will. Also keep in mind that this is one of those opiates that tends to be very subjective, kinda like Tramadol and Codeine... some people really like it and some ppl dont get jack shit off of it. Your mileage will vary.

But please do be careful, as ppl have said it is quite potent. My first time taking it I had a pretty decent opiate tolerance, not huge but decent, and took 8mg sublingually and was higher than I had ever been on any opiate in my life. It was WAY too high a dose, and was NOT fun. I went down to 2mg which was perfect for me at the time, and then after a while switched to insuffilated 1-2mg at a time and that was perfect. Ive been on suboxone for a few years and have never needed more than 2mg insuffilated at any given time to feel right.

But as far as someone with near zero tolerance, I suggest you be extra careful. I had two friends now who merely took one tiny line of the stuff, no more than .25 of a mg at the MOST, and were super fucked up puking their guts out and having a horrible night. Ive also had friends with zero tolerance that could take a mg to the dome and be just fine and feeling good. Point is that this stuff can be a bit unpredictable, and once again, your mileage will vary.

But I MUST mention that being on suboxone long term like this was a HUUUUUUUGE mistake! I have tried to quit several times now and it is HARD!!! Your brain literally will become totally dependent on the Subby for dopamine. The initial WD's arent as severe as hard opiates, but the WD period is much, MUCH longer! You will feel like total crap for a good month, and after that will still not feel right for months, sometimes even a year after that.

The aftershock WD's from Subs will haunt your ass for what feels like an eternity, and the intense RLS you will experience will drive you mad and will make it so you will not be able to stay asleep more than a half hour at a time, if your lucky. Imagine having to experience this for a whole year after stopping. If anyone plans on taking this, even for getting off of another opiate, I seriously implore you to make your Subby habit a short one. You do NOT want to be on this stuff for a prolonged period of time and then be stuck like I have been, wondering if you will need to be on it for life just to feel normal.
 
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insuffilated is definitely the way to go if your trying to get the euphoria from it. Onset is still pretty slow but the bioavailability is almost twice as high as sublingual. Its a great way to make what you have last you. It also just plain feels better insuffilated. This is of course subjective, your mileage may vary.

No, it isnt going to be as good as a full agonist such as oxy or even vicodin, not even close. But I wouldnt go as far as to say that its not euphoric or fun, because it certainly is. The euphoria is only there in small amounts, but the buzz itself you get is a good one. It just wont give you the pure unadulterated bliss that a real opiate will. Also keep in mind that this is one of those opiates that tends to be very subjective, kinda like Tramadol and Codeine... some people really like it and some ppl dont get jack shit off of it. Your mileage will vary.

But please do be careful, as ppl have said it is quite potent. My first time taking it I had a pretty decent opiate tolerance, not huge but decent, and took 8mg sublingually and was higher than I had ever been on any opiate in my life. It was WAY too high a dose, and was NOT fun. I went down to 2mg which was perfect for me at the time, and then after a while switched to insuffilated 1-2mg at a time and that was perfect. Ive been on suboxone for a few years and have never needed more than 2mg insuffilated at any given time to feel right.

But as far as someone with near zero tolerance, I suggest you be extra careful. I had two friends now who merely took one tiny line of the stuff, no more than .25 of a mg at the MOST, and were super fucked up puking their guts out and having a horrible night. Ive also had friends with zero tolerance that could take a mg to the dome and be just fine and feeling good. Point is that this stuff can be a bit unpredictable, and once again, your mileage will vary.

But I MUST mention that being on suboxone long term like this was a HUUUUUUUGE mistake! I have tried to quit several times now and it is HARD!!! Your brain literally will become totally dependent on the Subby for dopamine. The initial WD's arent as severe as hard opiates, but the WD period is much, MUCH longer! You will feel like total crap for a good month, and after that will still not feel right for months, sometimes even a year after that.

The aftershock WD's from Subs will haunt your ass for what feels like an eternity, and the intense RLS you will experience will drive you mad and will make it so you will not be able to stay asleep more than a half hour at a time, if your lucky. Imagine having to experience this for a whole year after stopping. If anyone plans on taking this, even for getting off of another opiate, I seriously implore you to make your Subby habit a short one. You do NOT want to be on this stuff for a prolonged period of time and then be stuck like I have been, wondering if you will need to be on it for life just to feel normal.

What is the difference between the millions of people taking anti-deps' (one on top of the other, if it doesnt work) & taking 1 or 2 mg.'s of bupe' to get through the day?
 
ok this is my first time taking suboxone. i usually take 30-60mgs roxi to get high, how much do you think i will need to get high off subs? im right now i have what looks like a little chunk of 1-2mgs of sub...does this sound good?
 
Do you withdraw if you don't take 30-60 mg a day? If you are dependent on opiates(opiods) and take that sub to soon you face the risk of actually becoming sick(you might know this already, just a public service message). If you have some tolerance which you have it might be hard to get as intense euphoria as Oxy. You might notice a mood lift, some stimulation, that you took something but it's not as intense. It will last longer than Oxy and it will take longer to kick in.
 
Do you withdraw if you don't take 30-60 mg a day? If you are dependent on opiates(opiods) and take that sub to soon you face the risk of actually becoming sick(you might know this already, just a public service message). If you have some tolerance which you have it might be hard to get as intense euphoria as Oxy. You might notice a mood lift, some stimulation, that you took something but it's not as intense. It will last longer than Oxy and it will take longer to kick in.

nah, just for fun. i dont get sick. this sub was cheap and i wanted an opiate feeling so i bought it. i just blew down around .5-1.5mgs into my right nostril....if i dont feel anything in 30-45mins imma snort another .5mgs

and how long until i will be able to take a full agonist like oxycodone again and be able to feel it? will 2-3 days be ok?

edit: as of now i feel a nice feeling. its not like the rush from oxy whre you feel all dopey but i have a slightly stimulated feeling sort of like tramadol
 
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I injected 1.2 mgs of burprenorphine I.M. early Saturday morning. I have a moderate opiate tolerance but am not dependent. I got a very long lasting but subtle high from it, not nearly as intense as heroin but still pretty enjoyable. However, this drug lasts way too long which unfortunately means I cannot switch from heroin to suboxone.
 
Does anyone here use buprenorphine simply to get high?
How do you use it?
What do you think of the high?
What do you think of buprenorphine withdrawl as opposed to heroin withdrawl?

I myself have never used buprenorphine to get high off as I had gotten addicted to a full agonist.

People who may benefit the most recreationally from using buprenorphine are those whose experience with opioids limits to drugs like codeine, tramadol, or dihydrocodeine. I've seen people getting very high from bupe s.l. but these people never took anything stronger than codeine or tramadol. However, if I were to compare their high to anything, the closest high coming to my mind is high from the very first doses of codeine taken p.o., comes on slowly, it's not really sleepy, mood is altered so a person feels more positive minded for the life and the world, eyes are full of tears.

What I've read about are some reports of staying high for over 2 days so that a user was tired of it. This was during the Transtec sticking plasters boom in Poland. People also injected buprenorphine extracted from these plasters. The method is crude...
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Plaster placed in water + vodka overnight, boiling the solution so it's white from all the unwanted stuff that got dissolved, it's waxy so it's easy to get rid of it, the rest is injected, some add propylene glycol, some don't.


I did inject buprenorphine but it was either from ampules or buprenorphine HCl in bulk dissolved for injection. The first time (ampules) it was when I was in morphine already so it did nothing for me, it was rather unpleasant but still it wasn't a full blown withdrawal because I didn't take morphine daily yet. The second time was pure buprenorphine HCl, it was during the time I used buprenorphine as a maintenance drug but it kept failing me so I shot it a couple of times to boost the effects because I was still sweaty after taking my sublingual dose - it was so bad I did 3-MF a few times to get through bupe, it really binds strongly to MOR. It's an introduction to the Suboxone thing... There is no way naloxone can do anything when taken in combination with buprenorphine. Even if naloxone got faster to receptors, buprenorphine would force naloxone out in no time (I've heard of people tolerating Suboxone bad, it might be 2 things, it's either mental thing or some naloxone hypersensivity - you're never taking enough bupe to occupy all receptors so maybe there's something going on with free naloxone flowing around MOR, I don't really know, it's illogical anyway).

What about the withdrawal from bupe? I haven't experienced any. But I experienced methadone withdrawal, slow onset but malaise right away starting from day 1 without methadone ('done doesn't hold me for 24 hours BTW). For me it's always better to feel it all cumulated but passing over in a week than suffering less but for a much longer time like a month. Really, methadone withdrawal is one hell on the Earth.
 
What is the difference between the millions of people taking anti-deps' (one on top of the other, if it doesnt work) & taking 1 or 2 mg.'s of bupe' to get through the day?


There is a massive difference. I've used at least 8 types of anti-depressants and am 6 days clean from a long bupe habit. Even the absolute worst of the anti-deps to get off (pristiq) does not even begin to compare to what I'm doing now. So reason no. 1 anti-depressant withdrawal is peanuts compared to opiate withdrawal.

Reason no. 2 is that the whole mentality is different. Opiates induce pleasure immediately. Anti-deps take 2-4weeks to even begin to work and are not exactly 'pleasurable'. So the attachment that a person feels towards opiates is just not present in the same way with anti-deps. There's no 'addiction', even if there is 'dependence', and a person is not likely to be doing outlandish or offensive things in his efforts to procure some prozac.

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i snorted around 1-2mgs and now i feel definitely high/numb but i am feeling sick to my stomach.. maybe because i havent eaten in 5 hours? i am going to try to push some food down my throat right now, then imma smoke a bowl and lie on my bak
 
Bupe was the first "opiate" I ever tried, and it blew my mind away as it was my first time with that different family of drugs. I've been using it for half a year now, sometimes everyday for weeks or sometimes once a week. The high is still nice, a very long lasting social buzz of sorts, and a single 8mg pill of pure bupe (none of that nalaxone shit) can last me for at least two weeks of lines. Awesome drug, one of my favorites.
 
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