Stimulants Anyone familiar with Adderal?

[rbbhf111]

For the past 6 months or so I have been seeing a therapist and we have discussed a lot about my psychology.

Most of the time adderal is prescribed for ADD/ADHD. I'm 21, and after seeing a psychiatrist and psychologist. They say I have some ADD symptoms as well as social anxiety.
I am not the type to put myself on medication Right Away. (I've been on klonopin and ritalin before, but I stopped taking it because for the longest time I did not believe in medication for the long term.
I tend to be headstrong about it.
When I was taking ritalin I was given the lowest dosage. (Now I realize it was a mistake stopping it) since the dosage should have been increasing. I did do very well that semester in school though.

I have suggested my psychiatrist about putting me on adderal, but he says that he doesn't want me to get on it and he prescribed me Bupriopron (Generic Version of Wellbutrin) instead.

I understand that Adderal is a powerful stimulant. I am aware of the risks and I have done my fair share of research. There are a lot of risk of abuse as it's an amphetamine. I want to try and see if it can work as the wellbutrin hasn't done much of anything.

Is there any advice of persuasion from my doctor. Also does anyone have any luck with adderal and how it has changed your life?

 

[morphonorconic]

I'd bet most of us are familiar (at the very least) with Adderall. It can work well for certain people, but not so well for others. Just depends on you and your situation. If you're prone to abuse, it's probably not a good idea.

Adderall is pretty much the gold standard in the treatment of ADD/ADHD. And since you've taken Ritilan in the past and had positive results, Adderall might be a good option, at least to try and see. Just be honest with your doctor(s) and tell them what you're thinking/ how you feel.

 

[rbbhf111]

I'd bet most of us are familiar (at the very least) with Adderall. It can work well for certain people, but not so well for others. Just depends on you and your situation. If you're prone to abuse, it's probably not a good idea.

Adderall is pretty much the gold standard in the treatment of ADD/ADHD. And since you've taken Ritilan in the past and had positive results, Adderall might be a good option, at least to try and see. Just be honest with your doctor(s) and tell them what you're thinking/ how you feel.

LOL, I know when I posted this thread and read the thread title I was like "Blah, of course they know. But was too lazy to change it"

I have a very good presumption that adderal can work very well for me. The problem is, I told my psychiatrist I tried cocaine. Which now I realized was a huge mistake but I was going through a lot of stress with my school. So I kind of broke down.

I guess now he is really scared of giving it to me. Which I totally understand. I've only tried it 1 time. That was in March in which someone offered it. I was just curious.

I will see what I can say, I am not looking for quick fix, I want to try to see if it can work. If not, I will stop it.

Would you guys recommend I ask for extended release or rapid release medication when I talk to him on Thursday? What is your experience with the release types?

 

[woamotive]

The title is hilarious-in that not funny sort of way. One could assume that by the high # of threads about adderall, that it's pretty damn popular. Read through some of them... They are useful.

Yes, familiar with it- check out my (& others' who have said they're familiar with it) post history for more info.

 

[snafu]

Adderall sucks bro, get dexedrine

 

[rbbhf111]

The title is hilarious-in that not funny sort of way. One could assume that by the high # of threads about adderall, that it's pretty damn popular. Read through some of them... They are useful.

Yes, familiar with it- check out my (& others' who have said they're familiar with it) post history for more info.

Right, I meant the the tread title to mean people who are taking it prescribed by their Doctor for ADD/ADHD. Versus just recreationally. I know I should've been more specific but that is what I meant.

I will check them out. -- my problem is my doctor is not sure of prescribing it to me. I just wish I knew how to convince him at the least.

Adderall sucks bro, get dexedrine

I will mention it to him, thank you.

do you think dexedrine is better in as to feeling more alert or in which regard?

 

[Arturo21]

The first thing you could do is ask your therapist to actually contact your psychiatrist if he or she believes that it could benefit you.

As far as the cocaine, the problem isn't just that you tried it, but that it was only a couple of months ago. Psychiatrists are well versed in identifying and forecasting problematic responses to any type of medication but especially the more potent ones. The problem with you going from ritalin to cocaine is that this is behavioral evidence of a tendency to self-medicate, which is a red flag to any responsible psychiatrist regarding possible future drug use.

Even though you may in fact need the adderall, it is definitely better to try deal with any emotional/psychiatric issues before starting a long-term psychostimulant regimen.

And, it is true about the addiction potential of stimulants. They can seriously ruin your life if you don't maintain control and resist abuse, especially on a daily basis.

 

[Arturo21]

Adderall sucks bro, get dexedrine

Dexedrine is better for a quick rush, but be prepared to crash afterward.

Your doctor knows that dex is even more easily abused than adderall because of its short half-life, so you probably shouldn't even mention it. For people with true ADD adderall is definitely a better treatment, especially in the extended-release form.

--- By the way, I have ADD and have used prescription adderall to treat it for nearly a decade. However, it does not completely fix the problem and you're probably better off clean anyway, especially if mental illness runs in your family because amphetamines can bring out a lot of bad shit.

 

[snafu]

My bad, I skimmed thru this post quick and thought he was looking for recreational usage.

 

[piebald]

if you have any propensity towards drug abuse or you enjoy recreational cocaine/stimulant use i would say "mmmmm prolly not"..using it therapeutically can be helpful to some people....but...if your prone to abuse/use/experimentation be careful..ive been on ritalin for years and slowly started abusing it..(well im and addict so that was a bad idea in the first place) if you can use it correctly than try it out but if you have any tendencies towards addiction/self medication stay the fuck away..i should have...

I started out just doing a little bit extra to write papers at school, then maybe a little more when i went out drinking, then maybe some more later on when i wanted to get shit done..but it kinda snowballed....and yeah..probably wasnt the best choice of meds

 

[Urgez]

I started out just doing a little bit extra to write papers at school, then maybe a little more when i went out drinking, then maybe some more later on when i wanted to get shit done..but it kinda snowballed....and yeah..probably wasnt the best choice of meds

ditto. however, when you get to such a point, you start taking your consumption more seriously (otherwise why would we be on this board?) i just came off a week vacation and i can thankfully report the euphoria is back (to some degree!). keep the hopes up and use safely.

to OP: i can't really tell you WHAT to say [though the mods haven't closed the thread yet], but what i can tell you is that you should be honest and self-aware of your personal choice of adderall. im not too familiar with wellbutrin, but there is likely a good reason that your doc is starting you on this treatment. discussing recreational drug use with your pysch is not as taboo as you'd think. i have plenty of conversations (in fact about coccaine last last time!) with my shrink, but you'll likely want to hide abuse [or if you truly have a problem that you want help for, who better to ask?]. you said that you "broke down": about trying coccaine or abusing it? the later of the two will most certainly impact a docs decision. experimentation / occasional recreational use most likely won't, given that people with ADD have a propensity towards self-medication prior to formal diagnosis and treatment.

as for the extended release: i would highly recommend vyvanse over adderal xr. first and foremost, it does not have those widely reported "peaks and valleys" of the xr because the absorption is not as affected by GI factors such as stomach acidity. second, it works as intended and has far less abuse potential. it's a much smoother feeling that blends in with your day so you don't necessarily feel like you're on a stimulant. you cannot crush to defeat time release, you can't snort, [you can't plug?], or potentiate it in anyway (as far as i can tell, and within reasonable effort). much safer if you you know you're prone to abuse.

gl. be safe.

 

[Arturo21]

Wellbutrin is usually associated with smoking cessation, but it can really be used for a lot of things.

Pharmacologically, it is literally in a class of its own as a NDRI, which means it targets noradrenaline and dopamine in its reuptake inhibitory action. This is why it is sometimes used to treat ADHD-spectrum disorders because dopamine and norepinephrine are the two monoamines specifically targeted for regulation.

It's actually a pretty clever idea for the pdoc to start out with this treatment because it can work well for ADD with virtually no potential for abuse and a low side effect profile.

The key here is waiting at least two weeks for the medication to work, just like any other reuptake inhibitor. Depending on the dosage (150mg-450mg) and the delivery (ir, sr, and xl) users may need to tweak a few things before it works the way it should.

As for the vyvanse, yes it probably is better than adderall xr, but it is a lot more expensive because it just came on the market. I'm not positive, but I think a generic adderall xr is either already out there or it's on its way.

In my experience I was prescribed 150-300mg of bupropion xl with 30mg 3x per day adderall ir for the simple fact that it was still much cheaper than adderall xr at the time. But the side effects (extreme constipation, dry mouth, and elevated body temp) became intolerable. It felt like I was drying out from the inside and no amount of water helped.

If you do end up on adderall, for the love of god, don't take it with a lot of caffeine because it can make you really sick and spike your bp and heart rate into tachycardic range.

Again, with any stimulant, please be careful.