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How do I do a controlled shulgin style titration method with a given substance?

Harambulus

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I noticed that the recommended doses people give on here are way more than I would want (having learned the hard way through bad experiences) and has landed me in trouble or at least in uncomfortable situations on several occasions now with RCs.

So I will take people's recs on here and maybe cute them by a 2/3.

What is this shulgin titration procedure people talk about?

I had 5-apb this last weekend and it tricked me (again) since I took a dose of 50mg and cos it takes a long time to come on and also comes in waves I came up at first then thought I'd peaked. I even waited like over 1/2 after the 1st wave and nothing else had come around by then so redosed another 20mg or so. This led to me peaking too hard and spoiling the trip somewhat as I 'waited to comedown' the euphoria turning into dysphoria though only mildly that time while waiting for a mild migraine to wear off (this situations has happened on several occasions now with RCs and so if I do them again I wanna make sure I don't overdo the dose again).

50mg would have probably been fine for me though I was 'caught out' due to the above factors.

So tips on how to avoid such a situation in future?

I guess in general it's a case of not being greedy and having patience any other nuggets to offer?
 
I noticed that the recommended doses people give on here are way more than I would want (having learned the hard way through bad experiences) and has landed me in trouble or at least in uncomfortable situations on several occasions now with RCs.

So I will take people's recs on here and maybe cute them by a 2/3.

What is this shulgin titration procedure people talk about?

I had 5-apb this last weekend and it tricked me (again) since I took a dose of 50mg and cos it takes a long time to come on and also comes in waves I came up at first then thought I'd peaked. I even waited like over 1/2 after the 1st wave and nothing else had come around by then so redosed another 20mg or so. This led to me peaking too hard and spoiling the trip somewhat as I 'waited to comedown' the euphoria turning into dysphoria though only mildly that time while waiting for a mild migraine to wear off (this situations has happened on several occasions now with RCs and so if I do them again I wanna make sure I don't overdo the dose again).

50mg would have probably been fine for me though I was 'caught out' due to the above factors.

So tips on how to avoid such a situation in future?

I guess in general it's a case of not being greedy and having patience any other nuggets to offer?

That's pretty much that advice that I would have given :)

Always take it slow, very slow, with new substances. Esp. with some of the newer RCs where there is only a few mg difference between a positive experience and taking way too much.
 
Start very low. Tens of micrograms, if possible, with novel substances. Wait a week or so in between doses to allow for tolerance to lower, etc. Make sure to record the dosages you take and when you take them. Record effects carefully, do not redose, and do not mix with other substances.

Work your way up slowly. Once you reach an active dose level be very careful as with some compounds a few milligrams may be the difference between a good time and hell.

Remember you can always take more, you can't take less. Save your big +++ trips for a time when you can plan them out in terms of dosage, set, and setting. Don't take heroic doses and don't be greedy or you'll get what you deserve...
 
Yes I think part of the reason for my trouble in the past is because I don't take these substances much I would try and shoot for the ideal dose right away and would be afraid of not getting an active dose since I wouldn't be doing it again for a while.

I think less is more with these RCs in general cos with most I've tried I just feel ill if I take more than I should have rather than feeling more euphoria. Like you say above the margin for error is alot less vs. say MDMA where you'd just be a bit more of a grinning mess for a while more within a few mgs here and there.
 
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